SigEp Ziggy Posted November 18, 2019 #1 Posted November 18, 2019 Until now, my modeling experience has been in plastic. This will be my first attempt on a 'plank on frame' build in wood. Wish me luck! These are the woods I will be using, subject to change. Also, I have started working on the frame jig. mtaylor, SHIPSCAT, Captain Poison and 5 others 8 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
Ian B Posted November 18, 2019 #2 Posted November 18, 2019 Good luck, I shall follow with interest as I am thinking of doing this at some point Canute, mtaylor and SHIPSCAT 3 HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍
SHIPSCAT Posted November 19, 2019 #3 Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Hello Shane You must be good to build this. Jo. Edited November 19, 2019 by SHIPSCAT mtaylor and Canute 2 Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 19, 2019 Author #4 Posted November 19, 2019 (edited) Thanks Jo! I like classic movies and if you ever saw 'African Queen' with Humphrey Bogart, he has a line and I hope I quote it correctly "... I'm kind of a jack of all trades, a master of none." That's me! so we will see if all my talents in the real world, translates to modeling. Shane Edited November 22, 2019 by SigEp Ziggy correct quote Canute, mtaylor and SHIPSCAT 3 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 19, 2019 Author #5 Posted November 19, 2019 I've been working on the wood for the keel (popular) and the false keel (mahogany) also some of the boards (6 of 18 needed) for the frames. Edwardkenway, Canute, SHIPSCAT and 4 others 7 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 20, 2019 Author #6 Posted November 20, 2019 (edited) I needed to cut the 1/4 thick boards down to 3/16. I don't have a thickness planer so a had to set-up my benchtop bandsaw to do the job. I will have to sand the cut side. I printed the first of the double frames. The red frame will glue to the blue frame to make Frame 1. Edited November 20, 2019 by SigEp Ziggy G.L., JpR62, GrandpaPhil and 6 others 9 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SHIPSCAT Posted November 22, 2019 #7 Posted November 22, 2019 Hello Shane Now that saw I do like, I could cut some frozen meat on that ha-ha-ha. Now I am a bit worried about the fist part, you are not making a cage for me are you so you can take me to the vets ha-ha. Sorry but hey you are doing a great build. Jo. Matt D and mtaylor 2 Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 22, 2019 Author #8 Posted November 22, 2019 No Super Kitty, nothing but good intentions. And thank you for the kind words. Your shipmate, Shane Canute and mtaylor 2 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 24, 2019 Author #9 Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) edit see next post Edited November 24, 2019 by SigEp Ziggy Edwardkenway, mtaylor and Canute 3 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 24, 2019 Author #10 Posted November 24, 2019 I have cut out the pattern for both the keel and the first frame. I glued the frame patterns with rubber cement which I understand should come off real easy, so I can clear coat at some point. paulsutcliffe, JpR62, Edwardkenway and 7 others 10 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SHIPSCAT Posted November 25, 2019 #11 Posted November 25, 2019 Looking very good Shane, I would not like to cut them out. Good luck my friend. Jo xx. mtaylor and Canute 2 Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
tmj Posted November 25, 2019 #12 Posted November 25, 2019 I'm looking at your building fixture. It appears to be an upside down version of 'Hahn's' building style, which means that you will actually be building it right side up! mtaylor, Canute and Edwardkenway 3 "The journey of a thousand miles is only the beginning of a thousand journeys!" Current Build; 1776 Gunboat Philadelphia, Navy-Board Style, Scratch Build 1:24 Scale On the Drawing Board; 1777 Continental Frigate 'Hancock', Scratch Build, Admiralty/Pseudo Hahn Style, "In work, active in CAD design stage!" In dry dock; Scratch Build of USS Constitution... on hold until further notice, if any. Constructro 'Cutty Sark' ... Hull completed, awaiting historically accurate modifications to the deck, deck houses, etc., "Gathering Dust!" Corel HMS Victory Cross Section kit "BASH"... being neglected!
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 25, 2019 Author #13 Posted November 25, 2019 tmj, I think it is because this is not a laser cut part, is Hahn's a laser cut kit or just a style of building? So, I have seen builds where it is built upside down, but those had laser cut jigs. Ziggy Canute and mtaylor 2 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 26, 2019 Author #14 Posted November 26, 2019 Thanks Jo, You always put a smile on my face. Your friend, Shane mtaylor 1 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SHIPSCAT Posted November 26, 2019 #15 Posted November 26, 2019 Hello Shane I am very pleased that I make you smile and I hope I continue to do so as long as someone feeds me and pats me on my furry head or even a wee tickle under my chin I will be fine, meow, meow 😼. Jo. mtaylor 1 Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
mtaylor Posted November 26, 2019 #16 Posted November 26, 2019 16 hours ago, SigEp Ziggy said: tmj, I think it is because this is not a laser cut part, is Hahn's a laser cut kit or just a style of building? So, I have seen builds where it is built upside down, but those had laser cut jigs. Ziggy Hahn is a style. So called "upside down" and he also stylized the spacing on the ribs. There was one (I think) kit maker and one timbering set maker who used the Hahn style that I know of. SigEp Ziggy 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 27, 2019 Author #17 Posted November 27, 2019 tjm, Thank for the info, I have seen them built that way, thought it was the way the jig is setup. Thanks Jo, You're always such a playful kitty. Love your work on the mast and bow sprite. I have an update myself. Got this from Amazon today! Also, I started working on the keel and Frame 1, AND I discovered that the jig drawing and the keel drawing don't lineup. I was smart enough to not cut the jig to size and allow some room for adjustment. tmj, KARAVOKIRIS, JpR62 and 6 others 9 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SHIPSCAT Posted November 27, 2019 #18 Posted November 27, 2019 Hello Shane Ok you are teasing this little kitten what is that thing. Jo xxxx. mtaylor 1 Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 28, 2019 Author #19 Posted November 28, 2019 Jo, It is a X-Y attachment for my drill press. It will move the part I'm working on North and South (Y) as well as East and West (X). So, for $40, I now have a mill. My drill press will be doing triple duty as a drum sander as well. More to follow. Shane xoxo mtaylor and Canute 2 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SigEp Ziggy Posted November 30, 2019 Author #20 Posted November 30, 2019 Finished cutting out the blue half of Frame 1. Shane GrandpaPhil, Edwardkenway, Canute and 4 others 7 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
tmj Posted November 30, 2019 #21 Posted November 30, 2019 (edited) On 11/25/2019 at 11:01 PM, mtaylor said: Hahn is a style. So called "upside down" and he also stylized the spacing on the ribs. There was one (I think) kit maker and one timbering set maker who used the Hahn style that I know of. There is only 'one' source of Hahn's style 'kits' that I personally know of, and they're only short kits supplying few laser cut parts, plans and the raw materials for you to layout and cut your own frames from... http://www.a wood supplier.com/shipkits.html Edited November 30, 2019 by tmj Canute and mtaylor 2 "The journey of a thousand miles is only the beginning of a thousand journeys!" Current Build; 1776 Gunboat Philadelphia, Navy-Board Style, Scratch Build 1:24 Scale On the Drawing Board; 1777 Continental Frigate 'Hancock', Scratch Build, Admiralty/Pseudo Hahn Style, "In work, active in CAD design stage!" In dry dock; Scratch Build of USS Constitution... on hold until further notice, if any. Constructro 'Cutty Sark' ... Hull completed, awaiting historically accurate modifications to the deck, deck houses, etc., "Gathering Dust!" Corel HMS Victory Cross Section kit "BASH"... being neglected!
mtaylor Posted November 30, 2019 #22 Posted November 30, 2019 True. They call them "timbering sets".... wood enough to do the framing and I think still a set of plans with them. As for plans, one has to snail mail the Hahn family. I suppose, someone with some time, could scan any plans and create their own Hahn style set. Canute and tmj 2 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
SigEp Ziggy Posted December 7, 2019 Author #23 Posted December 7, 2019 I have made some progress on the Blandford, I cut the notches in the keel and added brass tube to hold it in place on the jig. Also, I have glued the pieces of the frame halves together and will glue the frame halves together next. mtaylor, KARAVOKIRIS, SHIPSCAT and 5 others 8 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SHIPSCAT Posted December 7, 2019 #24 Posted December 7, 2019 Hello Shane Wow looks a wee bit complicated, well done it is looking very good, thank you for explaining the X-Y table. Girlfriend Jo xx. mtaylor, SigEp Ziggy and Canute 3 Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SigEp Ziggy Posted December 8, 2019 Author #25 Posted December 8, 2019 Thanks Jo, It is time consuming, this is just the first of nine frames! So, it may take me awhile. Shane mtaylor and Canute 2 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SigEp Ziggy Posted December 10, 2019 Author #26 Posted December 10, 2019 Gluing the first frame together! JpR62, Edwardkenway, SHIPSCAT and 5 others 8 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SHIPSCAT Posted December 10, 2019 #27 Posted December 10, 2019 Looking good Shane. Jo xxx. Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SigEp Ziggy Posted December 11, 2019 Author #28 Posted December 11, 2019 Thanks Jo, it means a lot to me. Got a little farther, the first frame is in the jig! Only eight more to go!?! Canute, JpR62, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 8 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
SHIPSCAT Posted December 11, 2019 #29 Posted December 11, 2019 Hello Shane I am lost for words my friend, you are sooooooo gooooooooood. Wish my build was as nice and clean also crafted like yours. If you carry on like this you will not be talking to me 😢. Jo xx. mtaylor 1 Current Build: IL Leudo - Mamoli - 1:34 FD10 Arnanes 701 Billings scale 1:50 "Good conversations are the ones you have with people you do not know"
SigEp Ziggy Posted December 11, 2019 Author #30 Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) Jo, Bite that prickly tongue of yours, your work is beautiful and I'm just getting started. Anyhow, thank you for your encouraging comments. 😽 Shane BTW Thanks for all the likes everyone! Edited December 11, 2019 by SigEp Ziggy Post Script mtaylor and Canute 2 Your Shipmate, Ziggy Current Builds: USS Arizona and Memorial Columbus Ship Nina HMS Blandford Cross-section
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