Old Collingwood Posted July 6, 2021 #31 Posted July 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, VTHokiEE said: Thanks Lyle! I finished up another belt before I had to store her away for a move. I'll be looking forward to finishing her up once we get settled - each belt seems to look a lot better than the last so I definitely feel like I'm making progress in my efforts. I left some extra length of the planks over the counter and chiseled a (somewhat) straight and even line with the wale once they were all installed. My camera gear is all packed away, but here is a parting shot. Hope your move goes well mate - never an easy thing - Will be great to see you building again mate. OC. VTHokiEE 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Moab Posted July 6, 2021 #32 Posted July 6, 2021 The planking is looking excellent...Moab Old Collingwood and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Completed Builds: Virginia Armed Sloop...Model Shipways Ranger...Corel Louise Steam Launch...Constructo Hansa Kogge...Dusek Yankee Hero...BlueJacket Spray...BlueJacket 26’ Long Boat...Model Shipways Under Construction: Emma C. Berry...Model Shipways
VTHokiEE Posted September 25, 2021 Author #33 Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) I've been neglecting this log for a little while mainly because I've had a lack of motivation (which is mainly my fault) and I'm hoping this bump of a post will help encourage me to get on with the show. I'll confess that as my planking progressed it became obvious (to me at least) that I didn't fair the frame well in spots. The real solution would be to tear down and start again, but this is a learning experience for me and I don't see myself finishing the build going down that path with this tutorial. However you better believe that I'll be doing a lot of checking to make certain I'm confident in my fairing next time I start to plank a hull - there is no covering it up with a single planked model. With that said - onward to the current state of the build. She really doesn't look too shabby from this angle. Not quite as smooth as it could be from here however. I also don't feel like I did a great job with how the wale and the counter met, but I'm not really certain what I did wrong (or if anyone can tell from the picture). Any insight there to take forward with me would be much appreciated. Edited September 25, 2021 by VTHokiEE Archi, Gregory, GrandpaPhil and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
Ras Ambrioso Posted September 25, 2021 #34 Posted September 25, 2021 Very happy to see you back. I am still working on my other projects but I am definitely going to build this half hull and certainly appreciate your doing it ahead of me. Sorry I cannot help you with your counter but I am not very knowledgable in the 18th century modeling. Welcome back VTHokiEE and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Ras Current builds: Stern Paddle Wheeler ZULU-1916-1/48 scale Previous builds: Freccia Celeste-1927 350cc racing motorcycle-1:9 scale-Protar kit Boeing B17F- 1/72 scale- Hasegawa kit HMS Mimi-scale 1/24-Fast Motor Launch Amapá 1907-1/64 scale-Brazilian Customs Cruiser Scottish Motor Fifie. 1/32 scale. Amati kit Patricia. Steam powered R/C launch. 1/12 scale. Krick Kit African Queen. Steam powered R/C launch. 1/24 scale. Billings ki Emma C. Berry. Sailing fishing smack. 1/32 scale. Model Shipways kit.
Cathead Posted September 25, 2021 #35 Posted September 25, 2021 Looks better than mine! Old Collingwood and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
VTHokiEE Posted September 25, 2021 Author #36 Posted September 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Ras Ambrioso said: Sorry I cannot help you with your counter Thanks for checking in and I look forward to seeing how yours comes together when you get there. I keep looking at the exemplar build and I’m starting to think I initially placed the counter slightly off and then didn’t fair it quite as well as I should have. The directions seemed vague to me at the time for how exactly to place that part. 1 hour ago, Cathead said: Looks better than mine! Oh you’re too modest, but thank you! Old Collingwood 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
Cathead Posted September 25, 2021 #37 Posted September 25, 2021 I agree that the directions are pretty difficult to follow regarding how to handle the complex planking around the counter, and none of the photos really capture it in progress. I had to study a lot of different images to even get as far as I have. VTHokiEE, Old Collingwood and EricWilliamMarshall 3 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
Old Collingwood Posted September 25, 2021 #38 Posted September 25, 2021 Great seeing you back my friend - fairing the hull was a real pain for me with my wood build - so hard to get a perfect smooth run of planks, its down to ourselves also how perfect we want to make it. Is that the first or second planking? reason I ask is, the First gives you more wriggle room if you wanted to try to sand down the high spots, also with the wale could you not just meet the counter the same way you have it but with more planks on the counter to match the extra wale planks (I assue you are adding) Not sure if that was of help Tim? its hard to come up with ideas some times unless one is building the ship your self. OC. VTHokiEE 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
VTHokiEE Posted September 26, 2021 Author #39 Posted September 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: its hard to come up with ideas some times unless one is building the ship your self. There is a lot of truth to that! This is a single planked Hull reducing the wiggle room some. I do have to add another layer to the wale; I’ll have to see if fiddling with that layer improves things. If not c’est la vie. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
LyleK1 Posted September 26, 2021 #40 Posted September 26, 2021 Fairing can be difficult to get right... I struggle with it from time to time! I used mine as a learning experience too... made mistakes, learned from them and moved on! Here is picture of my wales to counter seam... not much difference. Check my build log if you want to see more. I think you're doing great! Cathead, VTHokiEE, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Lyle "The only thing that stays the same is the constant state of change" Completed Builds: Occre HMS Terror - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2065-hms-terror-occre/ NRG Half Hull Project - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23546-half-hull-project-by-lylek1-nrg/ 1:130 1847 Harvey - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2125-1847-baltimore-clipper-harvey-1130-scale/ Scott Miller's Sea of Galilee Boat - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29007-sea-of-galilee-boat-by-se-miller-120-scale-lylek1/ In progress: Artesania Latina HMS Bounty - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/26817-hms-bounty-by-lylek1-artesania-latina-148-scale/ Waiting for dry-dock space: Model Shipways - USS Constitution Master Korbel - Cannon Jolle 1801 A Scratch build -TBD
VTHokiEE Posted September 26, 2021 Author #41 Posted September 26, 2021 9 hours ago, LyleK1 said: Check my build log if you want to see more. Thanks! I recall enjoying your build. I rechecked your log and I think my counter issue stems from the initial placement which fairing added more of a curve to that desired (I think). I think it’s probably good enough for this, but I prefer how yours came out and I’ll have to keep an eye of that in the future. Old Collingwood and LyleK1 2 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
VTHokiEE Posted October 8, 2021 Author #42 Posted October 8, 2021 I'm a little surprised to find myself "finished" with the half hull (I still have to take it off the building board). I did notice one final "error" that I made in my build to watch out for. If you notice in the following picture I planked the transom short of the planks on the hull. I went back and forth and tried to look at every picture I could find to determine which was the right way and of course I missed a great picture further along in the instructions that showed I did it wrong. Not a big deal, but boy did I make my life a little harder placing the "decorative" pieces later. Please ignore any waves that you see - fairing is the such a critical step in a single planked hull and I'm glad that I saw the consequences here instead of a future build. I did paint the wales before gluing them on, but after fitting them (What paint job doesn't need a little touch up?) Due to the fact that I planked my transom "differently" I had to cover the ends of the planks differently and this gave me fits. The directions details one piece that is bent, I needed a lateral bend and it simply wasn't working so I split the piece in two. I think I made the following piece 3 or 4 times after trying to bend a single piece 5/6 times 😁. In the end I got there though. Here is the final reveal: Big thanks to @tlevine and the NRG for putting this kit together (and thank everyone who followed along!). I found it highly instructional and I'm very glad to have worked through it. There are a few areas in the instructions that I wish had a little more detail (placing the counter, planking the transom) but it was a learning experience and I learned a lot. Be very careful about wet basswood and clamps though (oh the dents! - thankfully most came out after applying some water but I typically places some scrap basswood in between the clamps and the wet basswood). yvesvidal, Gregory, Cathead and 11 others 14 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
Gregory Posted October 8, 2021 #43 Posted October 8, 2021 The basswood looks incredible.. I wonder why it gets such a bad rap sometimes.. mtaylor, VTHokiEE and Old Collingwood 3 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon
LyleK1 Posted October 8, 2021 #44 Posted October 8, 2021 Nice job! What did you finish it with? mtaylor and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Lyle "The only thing that stays the same is the constant state of change" Completed Builds: Occre HMS Terror - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2065-hms-terror-occre/ NRG Half Hull Project - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23546-half-hull-project-by-lylek1-nrg/ 1:130 1847 Harvey - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2125-1847-baltimore-clipper-harvey-1130-scale/ Scott Miller's Sea of Galilee Boat - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29007-sea-of-galilee-boat-by-se-miller-120-scale-lylek1/ In progress: Artesania Latina HMS Bounty - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/26817-hms-bounty-by-lylek1-artesania-latina-148-scale/ Waiting for dry-dock space: Model Shipways - USS Constitution Master Korbel - Cannon Jolle 1801 A Scratch build -TBD
VTHokiEE Posted October 8, 2021 Author #45 Posted October 8, 2021 16 minutes ago, LyleK1 said: Nice job! What did you finish it with? Thank you; I finished it with satin wipe on polyurethane. mtaylor, Old Collingwood and LyleK1 3 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
VTHokiEE Posted October 8, 2021 Author #46 Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Gregory said: The basswood looks incredible.. I wonder why it gets such a bad rap sometimes.. Thank you! I think the end result came out very nicely but I have to admit that I wasn’t thrilled with the basswood at time. It can fuzz with sanding and dents but it was also easy to cut. Old Collingwood and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
Old Collingwood Posted October 9, 2021 #47 Posted October 9, 2021 Superb work my friend and a really enjoyable read, you finished her off lovely with tha contrasting Black and wood. Whats your next project? OC. VTHokiEE and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Kevin Posted October 9, 2021 #48 Posted October 9, 2021 very nice mtaylor and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
VTHokiEE Posted October 9, 2021 Author #49 Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) On 10/8/2021 at 9:50 PM, Old Collingwood said: Superb work my friend and a really enjoyable read, you finished her off lovely with tha contrasting Black and wood. Whats your next project? OC. Thanks OC; I’m currently mulling over what to do next. @ccoyle has really been tempting me with his card models so I may try my hand at one of those before kicking off a longer term project again. Edited October 14, 2021 by VTHokiEE EricWilliamMarshall, mtaylor and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
tlevine Posted October 9, 2021 #50 Posted October 9, 2021 It looks great, despite the transom problem. You used this project for what it was designed to be: a teaching aid on how to correctly plank a hull. All that's left it to mount it and be proud of what you made. VTHokiEE, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
VTHokiEE Posted October 9, 2021 Author #51 Posted October 9, 2021 2 hours ago, tlevine said: All that's left it to mount it Thank you, it really was a nice kit and eventually I’ll be giving the Capstan a go. In your log you mention covering the exposed areas of the Hull before mounting. Is that mainly for reducing dust? And did you mean a sheet cut to fit at the top? mtaylor and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
Ras Ambrioso Posted October 9, 2021 #52 Posted October 9, 2021 Congratulation VTHokiEE. Good job. Hope mine comes out as good. Thanks for the sharing your experience with us Old Collingwood, VTHokiEE and mtaylor 3 Quote Ras Current builds: Stern Paddle Wheeler ZULU-1916-1/48 scale Previous builds: Freccia Celeste-1927 350cc racing motorcycle-1:9 scale-Protar kit Boeing B17F- 1/72 scale- Hasegawa kit HMS Mimi-scale 1/24-Fast Motor Launch Amapá 1907-1/64 scale-Brazilian Customs Cruiser Scottish Motor Fifie. 1/32 scale. Amati kit Patricia. Steam powered R/C launch. 1/12 scale. Krick Kit African Queen. Steam powered R/C launch. 1/24 scale. Billings ki Emma C. Berry. Sailing fishing smack. 1/32 scale. Model Shipways kit.
tlevine Posted October 10, 2021 #53 Posted October 10, 2021 The reason to cover the top of the hull is to keep people from looking in and seeing the bulkheads and any other messiness. EricWilliamMarshall and VTHokiEE 1 1 Quote Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
Cathead Posted October 11, 2021 #54 Posted October 11, 2021 Nice job! Looking forward to getting there with mine. mtaylor and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Eric Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1893 steamboat Peerless; 1853 steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West; Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch
EricWilliamMarshall Posted October 15, 2021 #55 Posted October 15, 2021 Congrats!! The results look good and you learned a bunch; not a bad deal! VTHokiEE 1 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV
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