US Brig Syren by WalrusGuy - FINISHED - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 - Second wooden ship build

[NovaStorm]

You are doing some great work and moving right along nicely  

[egkb]

Just catching you up .. Yup! as NovaStorm above said Great Work Mate!  (Possibly a wee tidy up on that Hawse Hole though ..  First Photo Above, Macro really shows things that aren't ordinarily visible to the eye)

 

All The Very Best Bud 

 

Eamonn

 

(Sorry for not commenting more often but hectic here at the moment, even Ballahoo has taken a back seat  )

[WalrusGuy]

On 9/15/2020 at 4:09 AM, NovaStorm said:

You are doing some great work and moving right along nicely  

 

8 hours ago, egkb said:

Just catching you up .. Yup! as NovaStorm above said Great Work Mate!  (Possibly a wee tidy up on that Hawse Hole though ..  First Photo Above, Macro really shows things that aren't ordinarily visible to the eye)

 

All The Very Best Bud 

 

Eamonn

 

(Sorry for not commenting more often but hectic here at the moment, even Ballahoo has taken a back seat  )

Thank you Robin and Eamonn for the great comments 🙂

 

I think the inboard side of the hawse holes will be detailed later so I haven't touched it yet. But you're right, I should clean it up so photos look better 😁

[niwotwill]

I just read through your log again to refresh my memory and now i'm more impressed by your work, its looking fantastic. I now have a target for mine to achieve.

 

Stay safe and well

Will  

 

Good luck in grad school, it'll be a breeze based on the Syren. One of my daughters is getting her masters degree in biomedical engineering so I can relate to what your grad school will entail.

[abelson]

On 9/14/2020 at 10:11 AM, WalrusGuy said:

Thanks Abelson! I used the 28 gauge wire that came with the kit. 

Thanks. Nice work on the rings.

[David W K]

I am also building the US Brig Syren from MS for the second time since the first one was destroyed by a tornado a few yrs ago, was not able to finish. Your off to a great start and I am taking notes from you, I had trouble with my gun ports.

[WalrusGuy]

23 hours ago, niwotwill said:

I just read through your log again to refresh my memory and now i'm more impressed by your work, its looking fantastic. I now have a target for mine to achieve.

 

Stay safe and well

Will  

 

Good luck in grad school, it'll be a breeze based on the Syren. One of my daughters is getting her masters degree in biomedical engineering so I can relate to what your grad school will entail.

Thank you for the amazing compliments and good wishes Will! My master's degree is in mechanical engineering, so similar to your daughter's field. So far it's been rough (and it's only been a couple of weeks 😅). Things are getting slightly better though, but let's see 

 

17 hours ago, abelson said:

Thanks. Nice work on the rings.

Thanks Abelson!! 

 

2 hours ago, David W K said:

I am also building the US Brig Syren from MS for the second time since the first one was destroyed by a tornado a few yrs ago, was not able to finish. Your off to a great start and I am taking notes from you, I had trouble with my gun ports.

I'm so sorry to hear that, I can't ever imagine going through something like that..

 

If you get a build log set up I'll be more than happy to follow along! 

[WalrusGuy]

I set up a test breech line on one of the carronades. Wanted some advice before I make 15 more 😁

 

First, I used this string for seizing the eye and the lower part of the breech line. For the method I followed Dubz steps detailed here 

 

 

After about of an hour's work, I dry fitted the assembly of the carronades together with the breech line on the deck: 

 

 

 

 

So wanted some advice before proceeding (since this is the first time I'm rigging a carronade):

1) are the breech lines too short? Do they need to touch the decking? 

2) does the seizing look ok? I noticed other builders had much smaller end links (not sure what to call it, but the overhang after the eyebolt). I've attached Thomas Gahm's photo below for a comparison of a shorter one: 

Which method is more accurate? Or were either of these two seizing methods used at the time? 

3) is there anything else I should be aware of or need to fix? 

 

After looking at Thomas's one, I am thinking of following his for the carronades, then using Dirk's technique for the guns at the stern. 

[Justin P.]

Its looking really great, I very much like how the carronades turned out.  Lots of clean details, my favorite.  

[Gahm]

As far as I can tell there were different methods used and either of your choices would work fine. 

 

 

 

I tried the four methods, which I found the most often, and finally selected the one I liked best for my situation.

 

 

I hope this helps.

 

Thomas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[David W K]

10 hours ago, WalrusGuy said:

Thank you for the amazing compliments and good wishes Will! My master's degree is in mechanical engineering, so similar to your daughter's field. So far it's been rough (and it's only been a couple of weeks 😅). Things are getting slightly better though, but let's see 

 

Thanks Abelson!! 

 

I'm so sorry to hear that, I can't ever imagine going through something like that..

 

If you get a build log set up I'll be more than happy to follow along! 

How do I set up a build log?

[WalrusGuy]

1 hour ago, Justin P. said:

Its looking really great, I very much like how the carronades turned out.  Lots of clean details, my favorite.  

Thanks Justin! Can't wait for the next chapter for all the other deck details!! 

 

1 hour ago, Gahm said:

I hope this helps.

This helps so much! The reference photos are very helpful. Thanks Thomas. I think I might follow the method you used. I'll set up another test line to see how it compares. Thanks again!! 

 

41 minutes ago, David W K said:

How do I set up a build log?

In the case for the Syren, click on "start new topic" in the 1801-1850 section of "Build logs for ship model kits" forum. Before doing so check out this link to see more detailed instructions in starting and naming your log: 

 

[niwotwill]

Here is another photo that may help it is of the US Brig Niagara

 

 

 

Stay well and safe

 

Will  

[NovaStorm]

14 minutes ago, niwotwill said:

Here is another photo that may help it is of the US Brig Niagara

I find it amazing what a thin little plate of steel holds that huge carronade onto the sled. 

Amazing job you are doing Wally! Looking forward to seeing more  

[WalrusGuy]

12 hours ago, niwotwill said:

Here is another photo that may help it is of the US Brig Niagara

 

 

 

Stay well and safe

 

Will  

 

12 hours ago, NovaStorm said:

I find it amazing what a thin little plate of steel holds that huge carronade onto the sled. 

Amazing job you are doing Wally! Looking forward to seeing more  

Thanks Will and Robin. I never knew there's so many ways to approach this. I guess that's what makes each model unique in their own way. 

[WalrusGuy]

I think I found the one I like the most 😁 

Right now the rope appears a bit floaty, but it'll will glued to the deck later on. 

 

 

 

 

 

To make it I attached the pins to crocodile clips and pulled the threads when I made the knot so it has the more distinct shape used in real ships. I used CA to "lock" it in place, both on the knot itself and and the section after it where it is seized by the smaller thread 

 

 

As always, any comments or suggestions for improvements are most welcome!! 

[WalrusGuy]

Another small update, just received more goodies from Syren Ship Company! So for now I've received all the items I need to get the ship done. 

 

 

So for anyone keeping track, I'm replacing the following kit items with Chuck's: 

1) all the ropes

2) all blocks except for the dead eyes and the small 3/32" single blocks 

3) steering wheel (15/16")

 

Also bought the serving machine in case it comes useful down the road 

[Gahm]

Good decision! And the serving machine will come in useful down the road. I use it all the time.

 

Thomas

[Overworked724]

I invested in the ropewalk....but not the serving machine!  (Was waiting for my birthday)  Next thing on my list!!!!  Syren blocks looks wonderful....

[Redshadowrider]

Can you point me to where I can find these pieces?  I have found the site for obtaining the carronades.  I am in the process of making a decision on buying them.  After all it is my first build and while it may be the way to go, I have a lot to learn.

[WalrusGuy]

16 minutes ago, Redshadowrider said:

Can you point me to where I can find these pieces?  I have found the site for obtaining the carronades.  I am in the process of making a decision on buying them.  After all it is my first build and while it may be the way to go, I have a lot to learn.

Sure! They are available from Syren Ship Model Company linked below: 

https://www.syrenshipmodelcompany.com

[WalrusGuy]

All breech lines are finally complete and have been installed on the carronades.

 

Here is a close up photo of the knot I used: 

The distance between the hooks that I used was 52mm. I don't think I explained the process I used to attach them to the guns, so here is what I did: 

After measuring the 52mm, I made the knot in that side and seized it with the small thread. 

 

This was done for all the guns. Here are some follow up photos with all the carronades glued to the deck: 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next I'll be working on the tackles. This might also take a while 😅 

[Overworked724]

Awesome job.  Looks beautiful!  I’ll be asking for technique help whenever I get to this point!

[WalrusGuy]

7 hours ago, Overworked724 said:

Awesome job.  Looks beautiful!  I’ll be asking for technique help whenever I get to this point!

Thanks Patrick!! For sure! From what I found out, there's multiple ways to approach the breech lines 

[Bill Gormley]

What beautiful work - I could look at the photos of the hull all day.  I'm seriously challenged when it comes to tying knots so I'm eager to see what (and how) you do.

[NovaStorm]

Those breach lines are outstanding!

[WalrusGuy]

4 hours ago, Bill Gormley said:

What beautiful work - I could look at the photos of the hull all day.  I'm seriously challenged when it comes to tying knots so I'm eager to see what (and how) you do.

 

3 hours ago, NovaStorm said:

Those breach lines are outstanding!

Thank you for the compliments!! I also struggle a lot with knots and it took quite a few tries before I was happy with the results

[WalrusGuy]

Tackles for one carronade are done 😁

 

Idk if it's too soon, but I've already stuck all the coils since I was happy with how they turned out. 

 

 

Now 15 more left 

[hamilton]

Just catching up with your build, WG - she's looking really great! Nice going!

hamilton

[WalrusGuy]

1 hour ago, hamilton said:

Just catching up with your build, WG - she's looking really great! Nice going!

hamilton

Thank you Hamilton!!