Fokker Dr.I triplane by cog - multiple - 1:72

[Old Collingwood]

That looks Stunning mate  - the camo is really spot on.

 

OC.

[cog]

4 hours ago, popeye the sailor said:

nice!  love the camo.........BF 109E?   very well done  

Nearly, pitty though, you could have won a prize ... However it is a BF 109G-6. There is a 109G-4 which has the gun pods below the wings

 

BF (Bayerische Flügzeug Werke changed to BMW (Bayerische Motor Werke) if I am not mistaken

 

Thanks gents, working on two planes presently, the Dr I and a BF 109G-6 both at 1/48 Waiting for paint presently

Edited April 30, 2020 by cog

[Canute]

BMW made radial engines for the German a/c. They did make some a/c motors in WW I and made other engines after that war. They built motorcycles and began making cars in 1928. During WW II they stuck with their a/c engines. Post war they eventually restarted making motorcycles and autos.

 

BF became Messerschmidt after Dr Willy of that name. They ended up making some cars after the war. We even had some here in the 50s. They did make license built a/c and eventually merged with two other companies making helicopters until bought out by EADS.

[popeye the sailor]

BMW wasn't a great engine during WWI.  considering what they were using for oil back then,  no matter the manufacturer.......engines would wear out rather quick.  I was just reading about the Fokker D VII's.....they later were fitted with BMW 111a engines towards the tail end of the war.  they found that they couldn't put these engines under full stress for too long,  or they would fail.  the f1's started out with Le Rhone 9J and continued well into the Dr 1 variant.   only 320 or so were built,  but some were fitted with Oberursel Ur.11 engines.   they were basically the same as the Le Rhone engine.....only able to pump out 110 hp.  the Dr 1 was slow,  but very nimble.

 

I was actually looking for the variant changes made to the Dr 1.   it started out as the V4 prototype.  Richthofen flew it and didn't like the handling,  so they gave it larger wind surfaces {this is where they may have altered the ailerons} and interplane struts,  along with the cabane struts.  they also made changes to the elevator flaps.  the Roden kit I have has the two styles of ailerons.......one has the slight curve,  one has the longer arched curve.   I'm thinking that the longer arched curve was the V4 variant.  the odd thing is the kit doesn't have the different elevator flaps,  but has two stabilizer wing parts and two identical elevator parts that are commonplace on the F1 and Dr 1 variants.    one other thing I noted is that Richthofen may have test flown the D VII,  but he never got to fly one.......he died as they were coming into service.

Edited May 1, 2020 by popeye the sailor
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[cog]

Thanks Ken. Mixing up historical data

 

Denis, He wanted to stick to his Dr I instead of flying the VII. He did indeed tested them

[Canute]

Carl, easy to do. I had to look up the Messerschmidt info for after the war. It was convoluted.

 

The Baron must have liked the maneuverability of the Dr I over the VII, with those short wings.

[popeye the sailor]

he flew the albatross......the time factor was way off for the D VII.  he tested the V4 on the 1st of Sept.......it needed only minor changes to the ailerons and stabilizer fin surfaces.   he didn't test the D VII till Jan of 1918.  it needed changes as well.  one extra bay length was added to the rear section of the fuselage,  as well as the same change to the stabilizer fin surfaces that the V4 needed.   I'm thinking that the ailerons were also an issue too,  since these two planes are basically the same design.   the similarities lie with the wing design,  the stabilizer fin design,  and the rudder design.  the fuselage may look different,  but almost identical design was used here as well.  this is what I was looking into........the V4 became the F1......the second test proved to his liking.  he likely kept 101/17 for himself.   two other F1's {102/17 & 103/17}  were delivered to Jasta 10 & 11,  to be flown by Oberluetnant Kurt Wolff of Jasta 11 and Luetnant Werner Voss of Jasta 10.   it shook Richthofen's boots to hear these two died within a week of each other.....Wolff on 15 Sept and Voss on 23 Sept.  his first all red fighter was an Albatros DIII 789/16 ......this is where he earned the nickname Red Baron.  he died in an all red Dr 1 425/17.  but he flew a few versions of the Albatros,  as well as an Halberstadt D II.  he oversaw the development of the D VII,  but never got to fly one.  he also oversaw the problems they were having with the Dr 1........the top wing coming off. 

 

BTW........you won.........I started the Roden Dr1 

[captain_hook]

Wow. Is the stripdown-version a 1/72 scale model too? They all look great. Always loved the colourful schemes of the flying circus.

[cog]

Welcome aboard captain_hook. Yes it is also a 1/72. Unfortunately discontinued. I'll try to make a group photograph, but you know these planes need to go in the air as often as possible

 

1 hour ago, popeye the sailor said:

BTW........you won.........I started the Roden Dr1

Thought I could force your hand mate, not so hard after all

[popeye the sailor]

.........should never had looked in the kit 

[ErnieL]

Nice! Talk about building on the head of a pin. Flawless work!  I model in 1/32 because I’m half flippin’ blind...

[cog]

Thanks Ernie, Welcome to the log. So where are your buildlogs? The 1/48's I built took more time, because you can do more detail, the 1/32 must be even better, probably more PE choice too

[ErnieL]

1 hour ago, cog said:

Thanks Ernie, Welcome to the log. So where are your buildlogs? The 1/48's I built took more time, because you can do more detail, the 1/32 must be even better, probably more PE choice too

I have three on here, right below you.  All three finished

[cog]

Nice builds Ernie, people should relly see what you have accomplished

 

Another  small one, rigged the front, need to do the rear as well

 

 

Boxed in Jasta ...

[Old Collingwood]

Thats an Airforce.

 

OC.

[cog]

All wrapped up and nowhere to go

[Jack12477]

Too beautiful to hide in a cardboard box !

[Old Collingwood]

Time to build some display cabinets Carl.

 

OC.

[cog]

No space yet OC.

[cog]

But there is another one OC ... rigged and all

 

 

Oeps, forgot tires ...

 

 

 

Edited May 7, 2020 by cog

[popeye the sailor]

yep......your gonna have to get a cabinet or make some space.......they are too good to be in a box!   that makes ten.........quite a collection  

[cog]

Something is bubbling for display ... hope it doesn't drown ... have to work it out ...

[Landlubber Mike]

Very nice models!  So colorful, wonderful job!  Especially at that scale!

[Tony Hunt]

They look great Carl. Where are you getting the colour schemes from?

 

[cog]

Thanks for all likes & comments

 

Mike, I'm just glad decals were invented, for some things those really come in necessary like the white bird and the small crosses.

 

Appreciated Tony. Well you can find them all over the net, but I used these amongst others

 

after I made a choice, I searched for the additional information as crosses and wing top colours. I also used a decal sheet from Pheon decals they have some nice WWI decals in several scales.

You could print the decals yourself on decal paper, but the biggest problem is the white. You need either to modify your printer's cartridge setup, or buy a printer which can deal with the additional white toner cartridge. Which would cost me in the range from € 1.200 to € 10.000 + I don't think I can make a living from printing all colours and black and white, which could justify the purchase ...

[Tony Hunt]

Fascinating.  I used to make model planes when I was a young boy, Airfix mostly - a long time ago now!  I have to say the craft has come a long way since then.  The amount of research material available on the internet is mind-boggling.

 

[popeye the sailor]

back when I started making my own decals,  I looked into the printer stuff.   there aren't many printers that will do white.   they are out there {Alps printers} , but prepare to pay a high price for them.   I did read of a place that refurbishes Alps printers.......can't seem to find the link.....must have deleted it.

[cog]

7 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

can't seem to find the link.....must have deleted it.

Probably due to desinterest Nowadays there are some laser/inktjet printers which can deal with it ... but you'll have the same price dilemma

[popeye the sailor]

haven't seen a laser printer that can do it.....

 

I wouldn't say disinterest........more like the futility in looking at something I wouldn't be able to afford in the first place     

 

this is why there are decals out there that require the different color fields to be laid over one another...... such as British insignias.     the color palettes cannot be printed as a single decal.  I have found ways to thwart it,  but I still deal with transparency......most printers max out at 600 dpi 

[vaddoc]

I just finished going through the log Carl, very enjoyable, wonderful models! The strip down plane seems incredibly fragile. Lovely!