GrandpaPhil Posted March 20, 2021 Author #211 Posted March 20, 2021 Hannah’s completion is still pending. I’ve been very busy lately and have a very long to-do list. I’ll be finishing this model soon. Keith Black, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Keith Black Posted April 26, 2021 #212 Posted April 26, 2021 Phil, any updates on Hannah? Hoping all is well with you and yours. Edwardkenway, SIDEWAYS SAM and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
GrandpaPhil Posted April 27, 2021 Author #213 Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) We’re all doing well. The Hannah is in storage right now. We’re in the process of moving. I can’t wait to get my workshop set back up. Hopefully, soon. Edited April 27, 2021 by GrandpaPhil Edwardkenway, Keith Black, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Keith Black Posted April 27, 2021 #214 Posted April 27, 2021 Moving stinks, I hope your life gets back to normal in short order. SIDEWAYS SAM, GrandpaPhil, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
GrandpaPhil Posted June 1, 2021 Author #215 Posted June 1, 2021 Thank you all for stopping by. I’m mostly moved in now and Hannah is in my new workshop. Hannah took minor damage during the move. She popped a jib stay. Repairing that will be my first order of business. SIDEWAYS SAM, Edwardkenway, nehemiah and 3 others 4 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted June 1, 2021 Author #216 Posted June 1, 2021 The jib stay is back up: The standing rigging is back to being finished. Time to finish installing the rest of the blocks for the running rigging. Then, it will be time to make sails! mtaylor, Keith Black, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Keith Black Posted June 1, 2021 #217 Posted June 1, 2021 Phil, good to see you back up and running. Sorry to see Hannah take a hit but certainly glad it wasn't worse. Moving takes a toll on everything and everybody. SIDEWAYS SAM, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
GrandpaPhil Posted June 5, 2021 Author #218 Posted June 5, 2021 I think that Hannah is ready for sails and the running rigging. I do not think that I have missed anything. I do know that next time I need to plan out the running rigging better. If I am going to use one of the plans from the Hahn books or an AOTS, then I need to study a better belaying plan, or generate my own, and plan accordingly. Thankfully, this was a schooner and not a larger warship. I need to install deck blocks BEFORE I put in masts and standing rigging. Oops. Oh well, lol. We will call this one a lesson learned. I share it to help others avoid making the same mistake. On to sails! tkay11, clearway, SIDEWAYS SAM and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted June 6, 2021 Author #219 Posted June 6, 2021 (edited) Fore and aft sails templates test fitting: I adjusted the jib sails a bit to allow a bit for variation due to rescaling errors. I still need to make a template for the fore top sail. The rigging is one of my favorite parts of the model. Detailing/fitting out the hull is my other favorite part. Edited June 6, 2021 by GrandpaPhil Captain Poison, Keith Black, VTHokiEE and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted June 6, 2021 Author #220 Posted June 6, 2021 One set of rough cut sails: Keith Black, SIDEWAYS SAM, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted June 7, 2021 Author #221 Posted June 7, 2021 My method for making sails: I have a sewing machine that I have never used. When I get around to finishing the Victory I’ll learn how to use a sewing machine. clearway, mtaylor, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted June 13, 2021 Author #222 Posted June 13, 2021 Making progress, slowly but surely: SIDEWAYS SAM, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted June 18, 2021 Author #223 Posted June 18, 2021 Thank you all for the “likes” and for stopping by! I am still working on the main sail slowly. I decided today that I am also going to make bolt ropes. I keep improving and getting more in depth with every model. SIDEWAYS SAM, Edwardkenway, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted June 19, 2021 Author #224 Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) Making progress: The main sail still needs reefing lines and a bolt rope, but I’ll assembly line those and do all of them at once. Edited June 19, 2021 by GrandpaPhil SIDEWAYS SAM, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted June 21, 2021 Author #225 Posted June 21, 2021 Making progress! Two stitched, three to go: SIDEWAYS SAM, Edwardkenway, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted June 21, 2021 Author #226 Posted June 21, 2021 The fore top sail is done! Only the jib stay sail and jib sail remains! usedtosail, Edwardkenway, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted July 3, 2021 Author #227 Posted July 3, 2021 Thank you all for the likes and for stopping by! One rough stitched set of sails: Next up, reefing points and bolt ropes! Edwardkenway, mtaylor, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted July 3, 2021 Author #228 Posted July 3, 2021 Installed reefing points: I wanted some thicker thread for bolt ropes, but according to Zu Monfeld, the bolt ropes had thickness between 1/3 and 2/3 the diameter of their respective stays, so… I guess I’ll use what I have on hand. mtaylor, Edwardkenway, SIDEWAYS SAM and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Old Collingwood Posted July 3, 2021 #229 Posted July 3, 2021 Excellent work on the sails mate. OC. GrandpaPhil, Edwardkenway, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
allanyed Posted July 3, 2021 #230 Posted July 3, 2021 Have you considered silk span for sails for future projects as the cloth scales and stitching are a impossible to make to scale? There are some excellent booklets and on line tutorials on doing this. Allan SIDEWAYS SAM, mtaylor, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
GrandpaPhil Posted July 3, 2021 Author #231 Posted July 3, 2021 OC, Thank you very much! Allan, I might try silkspan for the Victory’s sails. I’ve been getting more detailed and trying new techniques/materials with each model. I’m still getting better. SIDEWAYS SAM, mtaylor, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
allanyed Posted July 4, 2021 #232 Posted July 4, 2021 Yes you are! I think all of us get better if we keep trying new methods. I suggest you purchase David Antscherl's booklet ($8) on making sails from Sea Watch Books before Bob closes it down which will be sooner than later. For Victory, assuming smaller than 1:48, there is no way cloth sails and sewing them will look realistic as there is no cloth with a high enough TC or sewing methods that will be to scale. There is at least one well done You Tube video on making sails with silkspan, artist's tubed acrylics and matte medium with slight variations on the methods in the booklet mentioned above. Allan Old Collingwood, GrandpaPhil, Keith Black and 3 others 6 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
GrandpaPhil Posted July 4, 2021 Author #233 Posted July 4, 2021 Where do you get silkspan from? SIDEWAYS SAM and mtaylor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
mtaylor Posted July 4, 2021 #234 Posted July 4, 2021 4 hours ago, GrandpaPhil said: Where do you get silkspan from? If you have a hobby shop that sells flying model aircraft, check with them. Otherwise it's probably and online search. SIDEWAYS SAM, GrandpaPhil and Keith Black 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
allanyed Posted July 4, 2021 #235 Posted July 4, 2021 I bought mine on line. https://sigmfg.com/products/sig-silkspan-tissue The hobby shops near me had plastic type materials and no silk span, so maybe call ahead to your local hobby shop to avoid wasting a trip. It is pretty cheap stuff, but you will also need good quality artists tubed acrylic paints (not the cheap poor quality stuff in bottles found a few aisles over from the better quality paints), matte medium and some scrap wood to make a frame and plug that goes inside the frame. It is not at all complex, Follow the steps on the tutorials for the first try, then it is an easy go from there. There is some information here at MSW including in the scratch build of the Boothbay 65 as well as tutorials in David Antscherl's booklet and You Tube clips. Allan mtaylor, Keith Black, GrandpaPhil and 1 other 4 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
GrandpaPhil Posted July 5, 2021 Author #236 Posted July 5, 2021 Thank you all for the comments, the likes and just for stopping by! One set of sails, reefing points and bolt ropes included: Now, on to the running rigging! SIDEWAYS SAM, Keith Black, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted July 6, 2021 Author #237 Posted July 6, 2021 Installing Hannah’s jib sails (1 stay sail and 1 actual jib sail). Using metal loops fed through the bolt rope to attach to the jib stays: I’ve been making the loops by wrapping annealed steel wire around a shish kabob skewer and cutting them in a line. I’m currently waiting on a cleat that I broke to dry. I should have pinned them in place for strength, instead of just glueing them. Oh well, things to remember for next time. SIDEWAYS SAM, Keith Black, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
TBlack Posted July 9, 2021 #238 Posted July 9, 2021 I'm coming late to this party, but I get my silkspan from: www.bluejacketinc.com. Before I got a set of sails for Scud that I was happy with, I went through 5 sheets of the stuff (each sail is 3 ply). Also, Tom Ruggiero (tomshipmodel) has a tutorial on sail making. Otherwise, a nice looking craft! Tom SIDEWAYS SAM, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote
SIDEWAYS SAM Posted July 10, 2021 #239 Posted July 10, 2021 Looking good. Reading the tips on sail material with interest. Always have trouble with this part of the build so any help is appreciated. Sam. Edwardkenway, Keith Black, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted July 10, 2021 Author #240 Posted July 10, 2021 Thank you all very much for the comments, the likes and just for stopping by! The jib sail is on and rigged! Next up is the fore sail! Keith Black, mtaylor and Edwardkenway 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
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