Mirabell61 Posted November 13, 2015 Share #2611 Posted November 13, 2015 nice work Nenad, I also like your scetches when you plan and bring your thoughts and ideas to paper... Nils Piet, Omega1234, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 13, 2015 Share #2612 Posted November 13, 2015 Thanks for the tip. David B mtaylor, Omega1234 and GLakie 3 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share #2613 Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Another stepPrincess decided to make little tatoo (@$$@#$) and Hothead told me he will also do it. But big tatooAnother $@%##But, they are 24 and 26 years, and what can I do? Talking against last ten years ... Or, I'm geting old and do not understand young people any more Edited November 16, 2015 by Nenad Omega1234, Jack12477, UpstateNY and 6 others 9 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted November 13, 2015 Share #2614 Posted November 13, 2015 Looking good Nenad! Kids-----I think they're the same all over. None of us older guys can understand them. Like they're from another planet. mtaylor, Piet, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted November 14, 2015 Share #2615 Posted November 14, 2015 I understand the process for the portholes Nenad but thought you could have used shoe lace grommets. Copper wire works Cheers, Omega1234, Jack12477, michael mott and 4 others 7 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share #2616 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) Kids-----I think they're the same all over. None of us older guys can understand them. Like they're from another planet. Faced with simillar ideas as tatoo, I remembered me as hipy with long hair (believe or not, I had hair once upon a time), psyhodelic music, sitting always on floor, picking my guitar everyehere ... Flower power etc etc ... On that time, we were from another planet for our parrents ... And life learned me - everything will be ok, just let them be mad for a while, they have right to be young and insane, just as we did, but in their own way Edited November 16, 2015 by Nenad Omega1234, michael mott, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share #2617 Posted November 14, 2015 (edited) As I can see, CS fleet runs tonight and captains are busy, facing with problems here and thereSame is in my shipyard, a lot of works finished tonight ( there were some unknown working ants appearing from nowhere helping me )Roof and floor moldings added, also at corners etc etcI was satisfied with look and feel, apply thin layer of putty, and fine sanding with 280 paper granulation starts. After that, thin layer of acric as "putty" and another sanding turn, this time with granulation 360After that, dust works done, and paint works started with two thin layersFinaly, aft deck house is doneI can go to "roofs" and planking of roofs.Skylight for aft house will be make and on place after planking Edited November 16, 2015 by Nenad dgbot, GLakie, mtaylor and 11 others 14 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted November 14, 2015 Share #2618 Posted November 14, 2015 That's a good looking deck-house Nenad. I think I recognize those "working ants", and Piet reported some of his has jumped ship. CaptainSteve, mtaylor, dgbot and 3 others 6 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted November 15, 2015 Share #2619 Posted November 15, 2015 Very nice work Nenad. "Patience".... You asked? That little deck house required an awful lot of patience my friend. Cheers GLakie, Piet, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted November 15, 2015 Share #2620 Posted November 15, 2015 Lovely work, Nenad. You and your worker ants must be very pleased! Cheers Patrick Piet, GLakie and mtaylor 3 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted November 15, 2015 Share #2621 Posted November 15, 2015 Looking good Nenad and thanks for sending a few of your working ants over Cheers, mtaylor, GLakie, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskerbosse Posted November 16, 2015 Share #2622 Posted November 16, 2015 Looking excellent! omarcs, Omega1234, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share #2623 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) That's a good looking deck-house Nenad. I think I recognize those "working ants", and Piet reported some of his has jumped ship. Thanks George. Looking for a tiny part of molding under workbench, under old forgotten shoes, I found a little illuminating teleport gates, designed for working ants, so mystery is partially un-hidden. Gates are to small for me to check another side - who is their owner ( I suspect Piet) Very nice work Nenad. "Patience".... You asked? That little deck house required an awful lot of patience my friend. Cheers Mainly, I agree Dave, a loooot of time needed to do this, and at one moment patience simply disappear, when portholes and doors came to line. Then I saw Michael`s work ( http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/74-bristol-pilot-cutter-by-michael-mott-18-scale-pof/page-62#entry363039) and ... what to say ... Lovely work, Nenad. You and your worker ants must be very pleased! Cheers Patrick Thanks Patrick. Mainly - yes, enough to keep it as final solution. That acrylic paint will get darker from time. Same level of simplification on all three decks, same look and feel, same making method . And if anybody will look at this details, I think attention will be on roofs where boats will be, where skylight will be. Looking good Nenad and thanks for sending a few of your working ants over Cheers, Look around Piet, you will also find a little teleport gates around your workbench. My ants are marked blue, and I suggest you to mark your red, not to stir workers Looking excellent! Thanks Peter for nice comment. I am carefully watching and learning from your rigging. Do you need some ants or have some to send to us ? Edited December 3, 2015 by Nenad GLakie, Piet, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted November 16, 2015 Share #2624 Posted November 16, 2015 Looking wonderful!!! I can't wait to get off the road and back into the ship yard. I'm very jealous of you! Keep up the wonderful work! Marc mtaylor, Piet, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskerbosse Posted November 17, 2015 Share #2625 Posted November 17, 2015 Thanks Peter for nice comment. I am carefully watching and learning from your rigging. Do you need some ants or have some to send to us ? Thanks Nenad, (I don't know what's up with the ants!? They have not been doing any work for two weeks now!) GLakie, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share #2626 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) (I don't know what's up with the ants!? They have not been doing any work for two weeks now!) Teleport malfunction, they reported Edited November 19, 2015 by Nenad dgbot, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 17, 2015 Author Share #2627 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Starting with "roofing" of aft deck houseSurrounding molding was kind of testing of my skills. Not badPlanking with 2,5mm strips of veneer, already seen here, and done and re-done couple of times in my build. This time, much better and more precise2,5 mm are a bit out of scale. Measuring and comparing with photos show planks width of 1-1,5 mm, which can be done, but in my opinion, it would not give proper "planking look" of roof planks. So I decided to shrink width to 2,5 mm, which is less than plank width on decks, just for contrast purposeWhere was my today patience two years ago? Edited November 18, 2015 by Nenad Omega1234, popeye the sailor, CaptainSteve and 8 others 11 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share #2628 Posted November 19, 2015 (edited) Rough "roofing" works done. I used same method as on decks. In this stage, I'll move to another houses, to make equial planking pattern, with same final color on all of them Edited December 3, 2015 by Nenad UpstateNY, thomaslambo, baskerbosse and 10 others 13 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keelhauled Posted November 19, 2015 Share #2629 Posted November 19, 2015 Looking good! keep it up! marc Omega1234, mtaylor, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Currently building the Cutty Sark http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1000-cutty-sark-by-keelhauled-mantua-kit-bashed-first-wooden-ship-build/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juleslucas Posted November 20, 2015 Share #2630 Posted November 20, 2015 Looks awesome Omega1234, Piet, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Current build - DelPrado - Cutty Sark - 1:90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted November 20, 2015 Share #2631 Posted November 20, 2015 Fantastic, Nenad !! GLakie, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwiederrich Posted November 20, 2015 Share #2632 Posted November 20, 2015 Good job Nenad. I see you've decided to build her after the Portuguese modified her. Coming along nicely Rob mtaylor, Piet and GLakie 3 Quote Current build: Build log: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25382-glory-of-the-seas-medium-clipper-1869-by-rwiederrich-196 Finished build: Build log: of 1/128th Great Republic: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13740-great-republic-by-rwiederrich-four-masted-extreme-clipper-1853/# Current build(On hold): Build log: 1/96 Donald McKay:http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4522-donald-mckay-medium-clipper-by-rwiederrich-1855/ Completed build: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/album/475-196-cutty-sark-plastic/ The LORD said, "See, I have set (them) aside...with skills of all kinds, to make artistic designs for work in gold, silver, and bronze, to cut and set stones, to work in wood, and to engage in all kinds of crafts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share #2633 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Good job Nenad. I see you've decided to build her after the Portuguese modified her. Coming along nicely Rob Hm hm hm, not exactly. Rather mix of C-plans and look from photos from internet. Her destiny is to look nice in glass cage in my living room, and considering I have not enough skill and knowlidge resources to make her exactly as She looked in exact period, I chose details I like Thanks for nice words Edited December 3, 2015 by Nenad dgbot, Piet, shiloh and 4 others 7 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share #2634 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) Another step forward Edited December 3, 2015 by Nenad GLakie, UpstateNY, DenPink and 7 others 10 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted November 20, 2015 Share #2635 Posted November 20, 2015 Nice work Nenad! Piet, CaptainSteve and mtaylor 3 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnharv2 Posted November 20, 2015 Share #2636 Posted November 20, 2015 Nice!! GLakie, CaptainSteve and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 21, 2015 Share #2637 Posted November 21, 2015 That really looks good Nenad. David B GLakie, CaptainSteve and mtaylor 3 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted November 21, 2015 Share #2638 Posted November 21, 2015 Mighty fine looking deckhouses Nenad! Hey, my helper ants ran away - I really need to put some sugar out Cheers, Omega1234, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NenadM Posted November 21, 2015 Author Share #2639 Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Thanks David and Piet. Nothing without antsRainy Saturday, winter comes slowly, and can not work in homeyard, but can work in shipyardHouses almost done.Temporary on place Edited December 3, 2015 by Nenad ScottRC, Omega1234, juleslucas and 14 others 17 Quote In progress: CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653 Content of log : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381 Past build: Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted November 21, 2015 Share #2640 Posted November 21, 2015 Swweeeeet!! popeye the sailor, Piet, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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