TEV Wahine by Richard Dunn - Radio - scale 1:35 - 1965

[Richard Dunn]

Yep custom trailer.
Local Model club has a huge lake and only 2 kilometers away from home down quiet road.

ballasted after water entry and displaced weight is 195kgs

[Ian_Grant]

I ask out of interest knowing I want to do an RC model (my first in decades) once my current static build is completed:  what do you use for ballast?  Can one still buy lead whether as bars or shot?

[Richard Dunn]

We can still buy lead ingots here I know that much, half the weight balance  will be batteries.

[Richard Dunn]

Oh and my local pond where it will sail.

[Richard Dunn]

Re the trailer, going to get a Kayak trailer modified or a custom kayak one made to carry case, but will make it so it can also carry a kayak and probably one of those foldable trailers to so it takes up less room to store.

[Jim Lad]

Just catching up after a couple of weeks away.  She's certainly starting to look a real beast.  Great work, mate!

 

John

[Ian_Grant]

Nice pond! Is that the model club's nice shaded launch dock or do people swim there too?

[Richard Dunn]

Sorry guys I missed the comments, yes that is the model boat club jetty, they have a clubhouse just out of shot of that image, no swimming, its pretty yuk

This weekend cladding will commence frame is complete!!, Xmas has gone from assembly to plating of model. cant wait for that stage as it will look like a ship then.

[Richard Dunn]

Will post images tomorrow but am at step 14 (see page 2) right now

[Richard Dunn]

Ok here some updates as I near completion of the frame work of the hull and superstructure.

View from  the bow, showing the areas remaining to be built up with B&B lamination, the fan room and winch pad openings can be seen as well in the deck panel.
Simon H if you are watching, now you can see how difficult access to the thruster is.

This is the Midship Stbd showing the fit of the deck panels and side shell, there is still the 2mm to go on the superstructure side at top and of course then all gets the .4mm plating over everything.

The gangway door and tonnage openings recess are clear here in side of hull.
The missing bits on the puzzle joints on deck is just because the part did not quite fit on the CNC, but not wasting ply.

This shows the incomplete fitted out smoke room space and the hatch to access engines in the middle.

The stern fully framed and mooring decks fitted ready for plating in.

In regard to access of the rudder mechanism through the stern door you can see the rudder penetration that I am pointing to.

This shows the rubust structure that surrounds the "Lid"of the ship to keep it all straight.

And finally the Lid being assembled on my other bench.

The large arc shaped parts leaning against wall are the bridge floor and ceiling

[Jim Lad]

You're making excellent progress, Richard.  She's looking really good.

 

John

[Richard Dunn]

Thanks John

Right I need some assistance for a  couple of things.

What do these balls on aft mast signal and when are they raised up the mast?.

Secondly is anyone able to identify this radar? and if so have any clearer pics of it. Most radar equipment was Kelvin Hughes. the scanner I only have serial number 14064

Specification gives this.

 

Edited December 8, 2021 by Richard Dunn

[GrandpaPhil]

That looks like a commercial x-band or navigation radar antenna.

 

The day shape configuration is weird, but I think it means that the ship is anchored (I could be wrong).  
 

However, typically there would only be one ball for being at anchor, which is what makes it weird.

Edited December 8, 2021 by GrandpaPhil

[Richard Dunn]

I will be more specific about what I want to know.

Where does rotation start?

 

[GrandpaPhil]

I believe it’s where you marked “or here”, but I could be wrong.

Edited December 8, 2021 by GrandpaPhil

[Jim Lad]

have you any history of the photo showing the two black balls?  Looks very strange, especially on the after mast.  One black ball hoisted in the bow would, as Grandpa Phil has already said, indicate that the ship was at anchor.  One black ball hoisted on the foremast would indicate that the ship was 'not under command', two black balls hoisted aft are a complete mystery to me.

 

As for the radar scanner, yes, that is the motor as you have indicated.  In my experience, only the scanner itself rotates.

 

John

[Richard Dunn]

I can't show full image or copyright reasons but she is either slowly going aft or forward out of berth, no wake to see or thruster wash either, no anchor cables down.
I have hundreds of images of her and only one with these up, I have many of her at berth and at anchor and none have balls... weird hey.

They are always present on ship and sitting at base of mast between the splayed blades at base of mast ready to hoist.

[Richard Dunn]

I found a webpage I have not seen before and found the answer on the balls.

Going astern....I doubt they did this every time though surely

 

Edited December 8, 2021 by Richard Dunn

[Kevin-the-lubber]

I couldn't help laugh at this business with the balls. I imagine a fortune was spent on what was probably fairly state of the art tech for the time, but still a pair of balls to communicate critical information. Is this system still in use? Brilliantly simple of course, as were a lot of 'old' ideas.

[GrandpaPhil]

Yes, they’re still in use.

 

They’re the nautical equivalent of a turn signal or brake light, (or reverse lights in this case) like you’d see on a standard car.

 

They communicate safety information about who has right of way, whether a ship has restricted maneuverability, has divers in the water or that sort of thing.

 

The day shapes are the daytime equivalent of the running lights you see at night.

Edited December 9, 2021 by GrandpaPhil

[Jim Lad]

Nice find, Richard.  I never used nor saw that signal during my time at sea. Maybe it was used in Wellington if the ferry had to go astern for some distance.

 

John

[lmagna]

I knew that two vertical black balls, (Two vertical red lights at night) was 'Not under command.' ( I used to run them when I was running my RC tug years ago as a joke. Well kind of) But I did not know about this configuration with two horizonal balls at the end of the yardarm. Nice to know.

[Richard Dunn]

Been a slow week as we were getting some major landscaping done ready for Xmas and the 4 day job turned into 5 and even though they have only done 25% of the work they have torn up the contract and walked off leaving us with a heck of a mess.
Today is first day back into it to take my mind off it.
Starting to clad hull

[Jim Lad]

She's really starting to look like a ship now, Richard.

 

Sorry to hear about your landscaping woes, by the way.  It will be hard to find new contractors before the holidays.

 

John

[Richard Dunn]

Thanks John
Actually I have been fortunate to find some on Airtasker and our Jims mowing guy is awesome so Its more a case of do we go QBCC route and wait or just do it on our own at this point.

[Ian_Grant]

More impressive each week!  Will you remove the upper works to plane & sand the B&B lower hull, or just flip the whole monster over?

[Richard Dunn]

2 hours ago, Ian_Grant said:

More impressive each week!  Will you remove the upper works to plane & sand the B&B lower hull, or just flip the whole monster over?

The upper portion is only screwed on so it can be removed and bottom carved separately, not only that the running gear can be installed far more easily. The upper would be crushed by weight of bottom, its quite lightweight to help with stability

[Richard Dunn]

Well the hull and superstructure will be clad this weekend and I will be staring to think about the final outer platers made from .5mm ply.

I want to ask the scratch builders watching this about their experience with painting, you have seen the size of this model but in paint regards I don't think that its a huge difference to how you approach it, I want to ask you guys for your opinions on how I should proceed with painting,  things like do it in stages, paint plates before fitting or paint small areas as I go, things like that, Its something I don't have a lot of experience with so want to have a discussion about it to see what people think.
I know how to use guns and airbrushes, that's not the issue but the actual process and flow is what I would like your experiances of.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Richard Dunn

[baskerbosse]

On 12/9/2021 at 9:31 AM, GrandpaPhil said:

Yes, they’re still in use.

 

They’re the nautical equivalent of a turn signal or brake light, (or reverse lights in this case) like you’d see on a standard car.

 

They communicate safety information about who has right of way, whether a ship has restricted maneuverability, has divers in the water or that sort of thing.

 

The day shapes are the daytime equivalent of the running lights you see at night.

Similar to these red and green signals:

 

Edited December 16, 2021 by baskerbosse

[Richard Dunn]

Please see question above this last picture.