HMS Winchelsea 1764, by Gary B

[garyshipwright]

Hi Dusan and thank you. At this point am looking forward to that part, the planking and probably plank her in boxwood. Thank you and all the other's for all the nice comments and thumbs up. Gary

[glbarlow]

As a suggestion the plank joints should follow a consistent pattern that would always end on a bulkhead. The plans show this above the wales. I extrapolated a pattern from those and kept track of it as I planked the hull. 
 

Another of Chucks suggestions is to print out the bow cap rail templates from Chapter ten and match your bow to those now while it’s easier to make adjustments if needed
 

Nice work, you’re very thorough.

Edited September 17, 2022 by glbarlow

[garyshipwright]

Thanks Glenn. You are right and the plank's joints should follow a consistent pattern along with a pattern for when they installed the nail's along with the treenails  in to the planks, which depended on the width of the plank. As far as the bow cap rail templates, I printed them out and glue them to some pear wood to see if the bow was right. One good thing about adding the balsa blocks, one has more of a choice on where the joints go. One thing am wondering about is what is the length of the strakes them self? Well time to open a book and research  that one. Again thank you. Gary

[glbarlow]

1 hour ago, garyshipwright said:

what is the length of the strakes them self

They will vary based on the start of the bow and finish at the stern driven as dictated by the pattern. Check the length of those midship on the plans, the sheet showing above the wales planking. 
 

I’m sure you’ll sort it out, it does stand out nicely once planking is complete. 

[garyshipwright]

Hi Glen. I always thought that the planks  used was depended on what they had in the ship yard which was from 25 feet to 50 feet and were the joint's fell depended on the ship wright who was in charge of building her.  I have looked at the plans but will probably go with how I want to lay them but Chuck's plan is a good start.  I do thank you for the info on how Chuck laid them out and will keep it in mind. Once again thank you good sir.  Gary

[glbarlow]

It is of course your model, I’m certainly no maritime historian. 

[claybaker]

On 9/13/2022 at 4:28 PM, garyshipwright said:

Well good folk's if any one is interested do believe that I have finished chapter one and taking a good look at chapter 2 which should be very interesting. Hope you like the photo's of her as she stand's.  Didn't post to much of the gun ports and other item's with all the ones already being shown in the other member's build log's. Hope she up to you good folks very high level in your build's. She has been a joy so far in her build. Gary

Always interested Gary. I could (and have) spend hours looking at your pictures. 
 

Clay

[FrankWouts]

Hi Gary,
Beautiful clean build and very inspirational the way you used the balsa fillers.

I'll be following your build with great interest.

Frank.

[garyshipwright]

Thanks guys. At the moment am working on the wales and once I have them  cleaned up I paint them with a black dye. Figure  painting  them now before I add any more planking, would keep me from making a mess. Later will paint the gun ports red but have to figure out what shade of red would fit her time frame. So many shades to pick from, makes one head spin trying to get that just right. Again thank you guys. Gary

[FrankWouts]

Hi Gary, 
I may understand you wrong, but are you going to paint the first layer of whale planks black? That's not necessary, you only have to paint the second layer of planks.

I think it's more necessary to sand the two outer stern frames thinner at the top, check the dotted lines on the plans of the stern framing.
It might be the picture, but in the picture the top of the outside of the outer stern frames seem a little too thick still. This will give problems with the positions of the outer two stern windows as I understand.

Frank.

Edited September 22, 2022 by FrankWouts

[garyshipwright]

Hi Frank. No sir I painted the wale after adding the second layer. Didn't come out to bad. When I was talking about adding more planking, it was the planking around the wale. It can get real messy trying to keep the paint and dye  off of new plank's laid along side the wale it self. When I was working on Alfred I put them in two layer's but they was in anchor stock. A lot more time consuming that's for sure. As far as the outer stern frame's I just haven't got around to sanding them down yet to the finished side, but thanks for letting me know about it causing problems with the positions of the outer two stern windows.  I make sure they are not to thick. Thank you good sir. Gary

[garyshipwright]

Hello just a small update to the planking. 

[dvm27]

Nice planking runs, Gary!

[Trussben]

Yep - nice to see somebody else lining off.

[garyshipwright]

Thanks Greg and Ben. One thing is for sure planking her is a little bit of a long process.  Of course I start at the 2nd plank below the wale and got the first belt planked on both side's and when you would look at it head on it just was not up to par, kind of bumpy so I tore it all off back up to the wale and figure it couldn't hurt to start at the keel this time. Also I was going to plank her lower hull in Holly but the gray kept showing up, and just wasn't happy with it, so am planking her in boxwood. Also got myself a new propotional divider to help with the planking and using it is really making a big difference  with marking out the planks instead of tick strips. My first divider, used it for years that is until the tighten nut strip out and couldn't find a new one. O well one has to do what one has to do.

Edited November 2, 2022 by garyshipwright

[glbarlow]

You’re on your way! I just settled in for the long haul when planking Winnie, mine took five months. 

One plank at a time, every plank a project, I kept telling myself🙂
 

 

Edited November 2, 2022 by glbarlow

[garyshipwright]

Thanks Glenn you are so right. Only 4 month's left to go according to you time frame. I know only kidding. Spent a month putting on planks just to turn around and take all that was installed off in 15 minutes. Wonder if that set the record for the fastest time in removing planks. Ok Just kidding😉 Am having a good time and that's what count's. Gary

[FrankWouts]

I clearly notice your experience deviating from Chuck's instructions, but recognize every inch to be correct....

Beautiful build!
Frank.

[garyshipwright]

Thanks Frank. Guess that's me and deviating is some times good for the soul. It allow's us to show a different  side of the journey we take. I did mention to Chuck that I might be doing different item's a bit different, but try to keep Winchelsea changes on the small side. Always found it hard to do when trying to coping another's work down to the last nail so you will have to forgive me on that one. Gary

[garyshipwright]

Hello good folks. Seems like I have been doing this for every, planking that is. Don't think it's to bad, not perfect, but planking was always the hardest for me when it came to building and planking a hull.  Maybe that's why I stick to building them, plank on frames, with out planking the lower hull.  Figure building Chucks hull gave me a chance to practice this part of the hobby. Not the best but that's ok. After a couple of month's, have manage to get 3 belts per side done, and  now facing what I believe to be the hardest belt to come. Looking at the landing of the counter planks and where the lower planks on the hull meet, will be a big test of getting the planking just right.  A sort of do or die I believe. Hoping that it will come out looking good but will have to wait and see. I have to line this belt off yet, which should be a big help doing it. Still a lot of sanding to do once the last belt is on and finally putting a finish on.  

[Chuck]

That looks very good Gary.  It will be a relief once its all done.  Dont be afraid to sand the hell out of it.  
 

Chuck

[garyshipwright]

Thanks Chuck for the kind word's and for the like's to.  One thing is for sure it is a very long process that's for sure. Also thanks for the encouragement which helps one to keep going. Gary

[jfhealey]

Its fascianating to watch what a premier league player (I have no idea where you are based Gary: if you are in the US the premier league, just in case it's an unfamiliar term, is for the absolute top flight soccer players) - your Montague is gorgeous - makes of Winchelsea. I am following this log with keen interest.

Fred

[westwood]

It looks really good Gary.
I'm sure you can handle the last belt.

[garyshipwright]

Hi Fred and Dusan.  Fred I live in the US and thank you very much for the compliment and what the term meant.  Dusan thanks for encouragment, need all I can get. Just have to take it nice and slow. Thank's again. Gary

[James G]

It looks really nice Gary! I’m just getting started. Busy cutting out the bulkheads and bulkhead former. Planking seems a long way off at this point. 😆Thanks for sharing.

[garyshipwright]

Thanks Jim. It's getting there and am hoping it come's out on the good side. Some time's I just have to push my self to go out to the shop to work on her verse just sitting in the house being a coach potatoe.  You will get there before you know it. Just take your time good sir and as Chuck said it will be a big relief once it's finish, the hull planking that is . Will be watching your build. Being able to look in on the other build's is a big help to myself and other's and for that a big thank you. Gary

[garyshipwright]

Well good folks  after a few health problems with me and the misses the hull is finally fully planked.  Now it just needs a good sanding and a nice finish and hope all the work pay's off.  

Edited March 1, 2023 by garyshipwright

[Chuck]

Very nice gary…That is a great looking hull.

[garyshipwright]

Thanks Chuck. Took me awhile but am happy with it. Hopfully I get it sanded down and put a finish on it once I make up my mind about it. Again thank you. Gary