HMHS Britannic by Kevin - Trumpeter - 1/200 - PLASTIC - from Titanic kit - Started September 2022

[Kevin]

7 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

Kevin,

 

First of all, your model is beautiful and your doing a great job turning Titanic into  Britannic.

 

I have one quibble!  Like Titanic, I assume that Britannic’s fourth stack was a dummy.  If so, would the dummy stack still have the relief valve piping running up its forward side?

 

Roger

it appears that all four stacks are fairly identical with the exception of number 3 which has a lot extra pipework

[Roger Pellett]

Kevin,

 

It could be one of any number of engine room vents.

 

Roger

Edited November 5, 2022 by Roger Pellett

[mcpwilk]

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Too bad that Britannic's boat racks would be useless in case of emergency (no time to move the boats from lower positions) and fortunately the ship was empty when sank.

Brittanic was not empty when she was mined. On the morning of 21 November 1916 she was shaken by an explosion caused by a mine near the Greek island of Kea and sank 55 minutes later, killing 30 people. There were 1,066 people on board; the 1,036 survivors were rescued from the water andthe lifeboats.

[Roger Pellett]

I believe that a major loss of life occurred when a full life boat got tangled up with the ships propellers.  This of course happened after it had been launched.  The lifeboat launching system worked as intended.

 

Roger

 

 

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

thank you for comments and like, and the ongoing conversation about loss of life and survivors

 

having built up the 2nd set of racks i then had to work out how they are fitted, they appear to sit on top of two small cabins, of which i presently dont know their purpose, but they have doors, so yet again when i find out, i will let you know

 

[Veszett Roka]

17 hours ago, mcpwilk said:

Brittanic was not empty when she was mined. On the morning of 21 November 1916 she was shaken by an explosion caused by a mine near the Greek island of Kea and sank 55 minutes later, killing 30 people. There were 1,066 people on board; the 1,036 survivors were rescued from the water andthe lifeboats.

Of course she hadn't sailed without crew. 🤪 I mean there were no wounded men in the hospital, the ship's rooms were empty. The medical crew, the sailors, the officers were on board, but no 'passengers'.

[Veszett Roka]

14 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

I believe that a major loss of life occurred when a full life boat got tangled up with the ships propellers.  This of course happened after it had been launched.  The lifeboat launching system worked as intended.

 

Roger

 

 

No, it didn't worked. After Captain Bartlett decided to try run aground the Britannic, he ordered to keep boats ready on board. Unfortunately a few boats were already in the water and one smashed by the still running propellers. When Bartlett realized that he cannot save the ship (8:35), he orderd to lower the boats, but that was too late, all of the port side cranes were unable to launch any boat due listing of the ship. Starboard cranes wasn't fast enough to release their lifeboat, because weren't enough men to move the boats from lower storage.
Many of the survivors were survived because one of the officers (his name didn't preserved) ordered his men to throw the collapsible life rafts and deck chairs overboard. At this time (8:45) all the cranes were unusable, because the forward set was underwater, the others due the listing.

Please note the difference: Britannic had 3309 bed for wounded men, and had 1106 for RAMC and crew. This totals 4415 and there were 1066 persons only on board when she sunk. They hadn't have to manage to release all life boat, but still failed to release them for all men, many survivors had to jump and climb into boats later. The theory to keep boats on top of each other proved wrong, and later ships were built with individual cranes for every boat to allow them to launch simultaneously.

Edited November 7, 2022 by Veszett Roka

[Ian_Grant]

They're lucky it was in the Med not the north Atlantic.

[Kevin]

32 minutes ago, Ian_Grant said:

They're lucky it was in the Med not the north Atlantic.

Had they been in the North Atlantic, they might not have hit a mine

[Roger Pellett]

[Kevin]

7 hours ago, Roger Pellett said:

thank you @Roger Pellett i am still looking how the boats stacked below those on top were removed, as the racking does not appear hinged or slatted,

 

Edited November 10, 2022 by Kevin

[Kevin]

good morning everyone

thank you for comments and likes

 

im still hoping to finish this build before the end of the year, im busy saving me pennies for the next project, my delay if any will be the boat gantries, i dont evem know if they will fit,

all the upper superstructure has now been added, with access to power for any other lighting points that may be required.

This morning the after raised deck was permanently fitted, and seams to have gone on ok, all this scratch work seams quite messy to me, working without plans, im finding quite tricky

intentions are now to slowly work forward and get her complete

 

[Kevin]

good evening every one

thank you for comments and likes

 

been deck grafting, and removing some of the unwanted  markings

next on the lest to paint and fit

sorry the boi wanted to be in the photo

 

after davits in the Britannic position

EZ lines on the cranes rather than PE

[Old Collingwood]

Excellent work mate.

 

OC.

[Canute]

She's really coming along, Kev. Fine job. 👍

 

Having the pooch in the picture is OK. I like doggies. 😁

[Kevin]

good evening, everyone

thank you for comments and likes

 

after cranes complete, used EZ line on them rather than PE

moving fwd and up another difference in the layout to Titanic (yep another)

the beams running fwd to aft, support the awnings

i finished this rail last night, and this afternoon it was another, "not Britannic" 

this why

the deck is squared off

 

slightly lighter, but i now have room for another two gantry power houses

The gantries are due to arrive this week, i can then tell if the boat racks work or not, knowing me they wont

 

 

 

[Old Collingwood]

Excellent work on the railings  -  love the way you  show the wood  railing tops.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

thank you for comments and likes

 

the crane gantries arrived yesterday from Shapeways in Holland, Britannic was only fitted with 5 of the 8 sets ordered as a result of the Titanic disaster, made up in 4 pieces, base plate, the crane/jib arm and slot

 

 

 

Edited November 22, 2022 by Kevin

[Ian_Grant]

Wow those are nice!!

[Kevin]

3 minutes ago, Ian_Grant said:

Wow those are nice!!

unfortunately, they have no added detail, so i have a choice to accept them or try and scratch a bit of extra pipework etc

[GrandpaPhil]

Scratch the extra pipe work!  It’ll look amazing!

[Kevin]

On 11/22/2022 at 8:42 PM, GrandpaPhil said:

Scratch the extra pipe work!  It’ll look amazing!

you will never know what agro that caused me lol

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

thank you for comments and likes

 

like all kits, they are not always suited for conversion, and a lot of artistic licence is required to make it work, its not magic, just a lot of worrying, of what people might think of my pathetic attempt to show a build in progress

i have two sets of gantries in place, but the spacing between them is slightly different as there is not enough space to put everything in, also the superstructure islands are different between the two hulls

however they are are now in place and hopefully staying there, im still thoroughly enjoying this, but so looking forward to getting back into wood

 

some walkway supports are raised a bit, will be sorted

Some of the extra detail, ladders and fixing points

 

Edited November 25, 2022 by Kevin

[GrandpaPhil]

4 hours ago, Kevin said:

you will never know what agro that caused me lol

I’m glad I said that, the gantries came out very well!

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

thank you for comments and likes

 

the after-boat gantries are now in place, and im as happy as can be considering, som more platforms to go in as well as ladders as i then make my way towards the third smoke stack

Edited November 27, 2022 by Kevin

[clearway]

expletive , expletive , expletive awesome m8y- those lifeboat gantries really look the biz😉. Have you seen the cgi real time video of the sinking?- they did others for other ships including Titanic as well?

 

Keith

[yvesvidal]

Beautiful work, Kevin.

 

Yves

[Old Collingwood]

Top notch work there  my friend.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

On 11/28/2022 at 2:21 AM, Old Collingwood said:

Top notch work there  my friend.

 

OC.

thank you OC

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

thank you for comments and likes

 

yesterday detailing the after stack and priming in grey

today was spent trying to work out how to light the red cross boards, there are 4 of them and floodlights illuminate the large hull painted ones

 

Edited November 29, 2022 by Kevin