Cangarda 1901 by KeithAug - Scale 1:24 - Steam Yacht

[Keith Black]

Wowie kazowie, Keith. The hull gets more beautiful with each new post. I have a feeling if I asked how many more coats you're gonna apply the below would be a good guess 

 

"How many coats must man lay down

before you can call a hull done?

The answer, my friend, is how much is left in the can

the answer is what's left in the can"

Edited November 25 by Keith Black

[KeithAug]

3 hours ago, wefalck said:

Some people also fasten the brass sheet to a piece of thin plywood to give the saw more meat.

Eberhard - that sounds like a good fall back position.

[KeithAug]

1 hour ago, Keith Black said:

answer is what's left in the can"

Probably correct Keith🙂

 

[BANYAN]

On 11/26/2024 at 2:51 AM, KeithAug said:

Yes - that s when you re not having to play the make believe Frozen game and you are awarded the role of Anna.

Oh I know that feeling Keith - with three granddaughters   I think we have watched the Frozen movies more than (lost count) together.  At least I haven't been asked to make a castle   We're up to the "Monster High" TV shows now - ugh! 

Sorry to hijack.

 

cheers

 

Pat

Edited November 26 by BANYAN

[Rick310]

When I cut brass sheet on the table saw, I reverse the he blade which works well.  
The hull has is a thing of beauty!!

Rick

[druxey]

Paint? For a 'coachbuilders' finish' I discovered the joys of rubbing down with pumice, then rottenstone on a felt pad. Doesn't cut down the number of paint coats, but it gives a beautiful finish!

[shipmodel]

Hi Keith - 

 

My computer died a while ago and I had to swap it out.  Not all the bells and whistles came along, and your log seems to have been one of them.

I just went back to the beginning and finished reading and enjoying your journey to date.  Really impressive, as always.

With a few more coats that finish should come up a treat. 

Please don't be tempted to paint over all your wonderful planking and finishing, no matter how authentic.

 

I've added you, again, to my favorites so I will be following along.

 

Be well

 

Dan

[KeithAug]

On 11/25/2024 at 10:24 PM, BANYAN said:

I think we have watched the Frozen movies more than (lost count) together. 

Yes Pat -  Me too - alternating with Moana. I am reliably informed that Moana 2 is out this month.

On 11/25/2024 at 11:17 PM, Rick310 said:

I reverse the he blade which works well.  
The hull has is a thing of beauty!!

Thank you Rick - it seems that others use this technique as well.

On 11/26/2024 at 12:05 AM, druxey said:

rubbing down with pumice,

Interesting - I have never tried that.

On 11/26/2024 at 3:57 AM, shipmodel said:

Not all the bells and whistles came along, and your log seems to have been one of them.

Good to see you back Dan.

 

On 11/26/2024 at 3:57 AM, shipmodel said:

Please don't be tempted to paint over all your wonderful planking

Others have also comment to this effect. I am reconsidering my plan.

[Keith Black]

3 hours ago, KeithAug said:

Others have also comment to this effect. I am reconsidering my plan.

 Keith, that you are reconsidering is great news. 

[FlyingFish]

On 11/2/2024 at 5:56 PM, KeithAug said:

quite a few hours of sawing

Did you consider using the scroll saw with a spiral blade? Advantage is that you can eat away pockets of metal rather than cut a straight line, but you'd need a saw with vairable speed to get the thing cutting just right.  I must say the planking looks wonderful, and the varnish really shows off the mahogany, but for me it would have to be fidelity to the real thing, and that lovely dark green/black paint just asks to be copied. 

[Jim Lad]

Keith absolutely nothing like your model, of course, but I thought that this image of a model in the Whitby Museum might show you the interesting effect of a steel hull left as polished timber.

 

John

 

 

[FriedClams]

Sweet looking hull, Keith - beautiful!

 

Gary

[KeithAug]

On 11/29/2024 at 12:46 AM, Keith Black said:

 Keith, that you are reconsidering is great news. 

 

On 11/29/2024 at 11:14 PM, FlyingFish said:

but for me it would have to be fidelity to the real thing, and that lovely dark green/black paint just asks to be copied. 

Keith / Andy - you both offer such good advice - even when your advice is diametrically opposed🙁

 

On 11/29/2024 at 11:14 PM, FlyingFish said:

Did you consider using the scroll saw with a spiral blade? Advantage is that you can eat away pockets of metal rather than cut a straight line,

Andy - I was planning to use a manual jewellers saw. I don't trust myself to be as accurate as I need to be with a scroll saw.

On 11/29/2024 at 11:35 PM, Jim Lad said:

I thought that this image of a model in the Whitby Museum might show you the interesting effect of a steel hull left as polished timber.

Thank you John - is that my Whitby or is it your Whitby (Perth). If it's mine I can't remember seeing it when I was last in the museum (One wet day around about 1964 😬).

 

On 11/30/2024 at 3:24 PM, FriedClams said:

Sweet looking hull, Keith

Thank you Gary.

 

[Keith Black]

  I thought you might be leaning toward leaving Cangrada's hull unpainted. That mahogany is so drop dead gorgeous I for one wouldn't be disappointed to see it go unpainted but in the very beginning of this build you left little doubt that unlike Germania, Cangrada's hull would get painted.

 

 Paint on dear sir, the memory of the dinning room table's transformation will be enough. 

 

 

[BANYAN]

20 hours ago, Keith Black said:

I for one wouldn't be disappointed to see it go unpainted but in the very beginning of this build you left little doubt that unlike Germania, Cangrada's hull would get painted

Ditto Keith.  As much as I too would love to see the detail of the planking; it will all come down as to the level of detail accuracy you wish to  portray.  Your usual very high quality of furnishings and fittings will accurately show the vessel at a 'particular' time in history and for me the hull should mirror that - if painted at that time, go ahead and paint it.  As the artist/artisan it is your final call though Keith. 

 

cheers

 

Pat

[druxey]

I suppose that there is one compromise that hasn't been mentioned yet: paint just one side of the model. I doubt if you'd want to build a second hull to paint!

[Rick310]

Keith, Keith, did you once suggest painting a white stripe and leaving the rest of the hull mahogany?

Rick

[Wintergreen]

+1 for paint. (you've left your previous builds partly unpainted so your ability to plank a hull is evident)

Plus, the lovely hull construction is saved with all the photos you've treated us with.

Oh! And it just struck me Keith, the Admiral and I were down in your neck of the woods over Bonfire weekend! More precise in Firle. It was a blast so we decided right awayt that we'll be back next year. We have an auntie that lives in Firle so we hung out with the locals.

 

Keep it up!

[Javelin]

I've been thinking about this one for a looooong time. 

The planking looks brilliant and at first I was a big fan of leaving it unpainted. You have no errors to hide.

That said, I changed my mind. In an unpainted state, she is not a true model of Cangarda, but rather a different ship. 

 

Paint would also hide the contrast with the brass insert for the propeller. If you would leave it unpainted, I guess a mahogany insert in that place would probably look better. Since it would in that case become a "fictional ship", you could put a white line on the waterline to give some contrast.

 

All in all I can still live with leaving it unpainted since that wood looks very handsome, but painted to stick to the original has my preference

 

Not much help in deciding, I know....

[Dr PR]

Paint it. Don't paint it. Paint it. Don't paint it. Paint it. Don't paint it. Paint it. Don't paint it. ...

 

But what about the dollhouse?

[FlyingFish]

Build two; paint one and..... no wait. You'd be as mad as me if you did that.