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Can't avoid life getting in the way Keith, hope the temporary 'gigs' have been acceptable?  Looking forward to seeing you back at the bench soon.

 

cheers

 

Pat

 

 

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

  • 3 months later...
Posted

*Keith tries looking through mail slot for signs of activity. 

 

Current Builds: Billy 1938 Homemade Sternwheeler

                            Mosquito Fleet Mystery Sternwheeler

                            Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                            Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: Sternwheeler and Barge from the Susquehanna Rivers Hard Coal Navy

                      1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                      1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

 Perfection is an illusion, often chased, never caught

  • 1 month later...
Posted (edited)

Firstly apologies for my prolonged absence and thank you for your concerns and encouragement re my renovations. Needless to say the building work went on much longer than first estimated. In the words of the site foreman "jobs always over run". The last part of the job (the replacement of a couple of french doors) is planned for next week ------ Hopefully! This will be the second attempt, the first doors were perfect apart from being the wrong colour, the wrong glass and the wrong size.

Needless to say getting builders to follow the schedule and do what they were contracted to do was somewhat of a time consuming battle. I think their company motto is "What the eye cant see the client cant criticise". We moved back in 2 months ago and I have spent much of my time since then improving on their efforts. In the end it proved easier and less time consuming to "just do it myself".

 

Ship construction restarted 2 weeks ago. Probably as a reaction to recent events I though I would spend some time modelling things that no one is ever going to see. 

 

I thought it would be nice to model all internal spaces where they are below sky lights or other points of access. It might amuse some future nanobot.  I am starting with the owners quarters.

 

The first job however was to do a little internal preparation.

 

All the internal surfaces where the balsa backing had been installed were sanded to the profile of the  frames using my improvised sanding stick.

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The owners quarters sit amidships with white panelled walls mahogany cupboards, lockers and a double berth. The arrangement is broadly detailed on one of the available plans. The plan isn't exactly correct but with the available photographs this isn't a problem. 

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From earlier some of you might recall that I installed every second frame (actually all the odd numbered ones). The foremost bulkhed of the owners cabin actually starts at frame 44 so this had to be retrospectively installed. A lack of planning created unnecessarily rework. The rule and elastic band are holding the half frame in place while gluing. It wasn't possible to install the whole frame as on piece (I tried and failed).

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I needed to put the floor in (made from 1/32" ply). The dimensions were taken from the installed frames and drawn on a paper template. Installation through the deck frames was checked.

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A block of balsa was was cut to size to form the core of the double berth. To be clad in mahogany later.

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A template for the forward wall was shaped to fit at frame 44 with cut outs for the fitted cupboards on the starboard beam and shelf on the port beam. The template will enable me to make the white panneled walls.

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Pieces were cut from MDF to act as the cores of the cupboard and shelf (starboard and port beams respectively.

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When finished it should look something like this. The chairs are a bit worrying, I'll come back to those at a future date. if not succesful i can always leave them out.

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Hopefully I will be able to catch up with all your wonderful builds over the next week or two.

 

Its good to be back.

 

 

Edited by KeithAug

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Posted

Brilliant to see you back at this work 👍🏻  One is always a bit apprehensive, when there is a long period of silence.

 

I forgot about your home-improvement trials and tribulations. Having gone through a couple of home renovations myself, I know what the challenges are and that one has to constantly keep the contractors on their toes. Luckily, our constractor very early on understood, that his client knows a bit about the business 😈

wefalck

 

panta rhei - Everything is in flux

 

 

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Posted
37 minutes ago, wefalck said:

Luckily, our constractor very early on understood, that his client knows a bit about the business 😈

Unfortunately ours never really got that point! I think their motivation about wringing every penny of cost / profit out of the job overrode their thoughts on scope compliance. They didn't seem to get that doing it correctly once was less work than doing it badly twice. They were appointed by our insurer who seemed to be quite tolerant of their general approach to penny pinching.

 

37 minutes ago, Javelin said:

And here you are!

Yes - I popped up a bit unexpectedly - a bit like toast.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Posted
52 minutes ago, Jim Lad said:

put in the deck beams and then build the cabins below them

It's called changing the plan John. (Alternatively called stupidity).

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Posted (edited)

 I'm thrilled, thrilled I tell ya to have you back and working on Cangarda, Keith. MSW wasn't quite the same without you.  

Edited by Keith Black

Current Builds: Billy 1938 Homemade Sternwheeler

                            Mosquito Fleet Mystery Sternwheeler

                            Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                            Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: Sternwheeler and Barge from the Susquehanna Rivers Hard Coal Navy

                      1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                      1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

 Perfection is an illusion, often chased, never caught

Posted

Keith, great to see you posting again!  Your planned upgrades to Cangarda will make for some wonderful viewing experiences.

Best Regards……..Paul 


‘Current Build  SS Wapama - Scratch

Completed Builds   North Carolina Oyster Sharpie - Scratch. -  Glad Tidings Model Shipways. -   Nordland Boat. Billing Boats . -  HM Cutter Cheerful-1806  Syren Ship Model Company. 

 

Posted

Great to see you back Keith, I have been missing your build. Sorry to hear of the trials and tribulations with your renovation mate; seems insurance appointed builder same the same world wide - the cheapest builder they can find who then tries to 'screw us out of every dollar they can'.  Mine had the hide to inform me that he had bought a large fishing boat from his profits and then had buy a large 'white rock'; for the missus to compensate.  

 

cheers

 

Pat

If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!
Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

Posted

Thank you all for your warm welcome back. 

 

15 hours ago, Dr PR said:

Do they make dollhouses at 1:24 scale?

Phil - it tends to be 1:12 and not quite as "period" as might be appropriate.

 

14 hours ago, BANYAN said:

the cheapest builder they can find

Pat - That's certainly the incentive but I think they also over charge the insurer for the work as well. I worry about the little old ladies (non PC) who get taken for a ride. I ended up writing a 40 page review of my experiences which included an item by item commentary on the builders work schedule of which about 1/3 was done inadequately and 1/3 wasn't done at all. The builders excuse was that the schedule - quote - "wasn't intended to be read literally and that it shouldn't have been passed to me in that form". However I did get it all done eventually plus £1000 from the insurer as a good will gesture. The insurers appointed consultants and the builders team all seemed to be on very friendly terms which I think "says it all".

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Posted

Mate, my son works for such a contractor and hates it, always trying to convince him and the guys that the right way is generally quicker and gives a much better outcome.

On the subject of model boat interiors, I met one of Jim Lads compatriots ( a model maker at the Australian National Maritime Museum ) who had been to England and visited the NMM there just as they were using an endoscope to look inside the old admiralty models. These models, as many know, were used instead of drawings to show the admiralty what every deck would look like so they are fully detailed and had not been seen by anyone since the admiralty signed off deck by deck as they were closed up with the weather deck.

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, Bedford said:

hese models, as many know, were used instead of drawings to show the admiralty what every deck would look like so they are fully detailed and had not been seen by anyone since the admiralty signed off deck by deck as they were closed up with the weather deck.

Fascinating - I hadn't realised all the internal detail was there.

 

On a slightly different subject. I did take a few days off from contractor supervision over the summer. Here is a fine old clock which is a woodworking masterpiece - all the gears and spindles made of hardwood.IMG_5557.thumb.jpeg.c5f25b5db655ae10a21daac18ac19223.jpeg

 

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It had run almost continuously for 300 years ( Made 1717) but alas recently it has been allowed to stop to preserve it. ~They don't make them like that any more! It is on display in Nostell Priory ( Yorkshire ) where John was the son of the estate carpenter.

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Edited by KeithAug

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Posted

 As much as I admire the desire to preserve that beautiful clock as original, I find it hard to believe that line is 300 years old and hasn't been replaced at some point. Did replacing the line make it non original? Not hardly. 

 

  

Current Builds: Billy 1938 Homemade Sternwheeler

                            Mosquito Fleet Mystery Sternwheeler

                            Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                            Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: Sternwheeler and Barge from the Susquehanna Rivers Hard Coal Navy

                      1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                      1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

 Perfection is an illusion, often chased, never caught

Posted
1 hour ago, Keith Black said:

Did replacing the line make it non original?

Yes I assumed that had replaced the line at some time. I think they must treat the line as a consumable item and therefore not intrinsic to its authenticity ( a bit like my wrinkles ).

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, KeithAug said:

a fine old clock which is a woodworking masterpiece

I think that specific clock was written about in the book "Precision" by Simon Winchester...... a fascinating tale of skill & engineering, that would appeal to any scale modeller.

Posted

 

Current Builds: Billy 1938 Homemade Sternwheeler

                            Mosquito Fleet Mystery Sternwheeler

                            Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                            Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: Sternwheeler and Barge from the Susquehanna Rivers Hard Coal Navy

                      1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                      1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

 Perfection is an illusion, often chased, never caught

Posted

Ian, yes, the same John Harrison. Three of his wooden clocks are still in existence.

 

As an aside, several years ago we had the Harrison chronometers on display at the National maritime Museum here in Sydney. A couple of older blokes approached me and asked if the clocks were really made in the early 18th century. When I confirmed that they were, they said, "So, all hand made"? "Yes", I replied. One of them then said, "Mate, we've been toolmakers all of our lives and we couldn't hope to do anything like that"!

 

John

 

Posted (edited)

I saw those chronometers years ago, I think at the Royal Observatory Greenwich. I picked up a little book about him and them; loved the description of his "temperature testing" ie one room's window open in winter, to verify one cold unit against a second warm one. The genius of our ancestors always impressed me, particularly clockmakers and astronomers.

Edited by Ian_Grant

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