Vladimir_Wairoa Posted December 17, 2023 Share #1 Posted December 17, 2023 Good evening. I will start new log for 24 pdr french frigate Egyptienne starting new year 2024. There has been some intensive work ongoing as Im finishing pob bulkheads work from monograph plans. This is my first ancre build, but hull seem pretty straightforward, yet it is very difficult subject due to intense and advance carving at stern. Anyway, I wont go in detail about her history, however, its so little of her here for many reasons. Im fan of napoleoninc era etc. Its important to stress, that this magnificent vessel carried famous rosetta stone from egypt to england alrrady under english flqg as been captured in siege of alexandria and became english afterwards. designed by Faro, Two vessels were similar. I see one or two logs on her so there will hopefully be a lot to discuss . I already started but unusual. backwards so I have most difficult part behind me. I hand carved stern plate on boxwood, and painted black so its different that colorless prototype. you can see slightly simplified ornamentals as those acanthus leaves are beyond my skill. thus even with this omission I hope I stayed true to original as well as with female figure with mirror palm trees and pyramids. Floral element below is not yet fyluply completed but almost. Bow elements are verybdifficult but i hope to obtain some machinery in next year or so so I can simplify work. I intend to plank her with boxwood so light tone with black wales. But many to discuss later :). I will apreciate any comment suggestion remark etc...Sure im learing from more experienced builders here, and with experiences I already have. So excited to enter my first french territory. I count few years until completed, planned full with rigging and sails. Good productive week to everyone and MERRY CHRISTMAS, good health etc... Vlad JacquesCousteau, mtaylor, ccoyle and 10 others 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted December 17, 2023 Share #2 Posted December 17, 2023 Very cool build! Looking forward to it! Vladimir_Wairoa and mtaylor 1 1 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdgiantman2 Posted December 17, 2023 Share #3 Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) Did you make the CAD drawings yourself or is there some way to get these imported? I have done CAD work in the past, but never been able to get those before. Brian D Edited December 17, 2023 by bdgiantman2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share #4 Posted December 18, 2023 7 hours ago, bdgiantman2 said: Did you make the CAD drawings yourself or is there some way to get these imported? I have done CAD work in the past, but never been able to get those before. Brian D I made them myself Brian. Had it copied to get it into pc and worked it on pc. mtaylor, scrubbyj427, dvm27 and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted December 27, 2023 Share #5 Posted December 27, 2023 This looks to be an interesting project Vlad, will follow with interest. JJ mtaylor and Vladimir_Wairoa 2 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted January 3 Author Share #6 Posted January 3 Good day fellow scratchbuilders. Bulkheads are in making so im excited. I decided not to waste time and made stern structural backbone. ride is on. Paul Le Wol, KARAVOKIRIS, G. Delacroix and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted January 6 Author Share #7 Posted January 6 (edited) Took me week to work the skeleton. though I will have to figure out how to drill cannon holes at later stage. maybe i will do it at this point sometime. Thanks for looking in. Im glad this extremely difficult part is behind me. windows sills inserted and polished.. Edited January 7 by Vladimir_Wairoa add scrubbyj427, dvm27, druxey and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted January 7 Share #8 Posted January 7 I found that the counter timbers and dogs legs are not easy to do and take a lot of effort to get right. Looks like you are on the money there - nice work. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted January 8 Author Share #9 Posted January 8 12 hours ago, No Idea said: I found that the counter timbers and dogs legs are not easy to do and take a lot of effort to get right. Looks like you are on the money there - nice work. Thank you. Yes I found it difficult as well. there is probably far more ways to make it more simply or easier it one is building counter jig with curvature bed so legs could be under control, and making it from pear wood without laset cut precision requires utmost effort to maintain accuracy otherwise it gets soon cramped. but it is main structural part so it requires attention. I was finally happy I strenghtened it as much as possible as it required fair amount of sanding for final correction so it needed to be stiff...but lots lots of work there for me. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted January 13 Author Share #10 Posted January 13 Transom wings? or whatever those are called. well, finally little weekend time. I was thinking what sort of filler to apply ..but, i realised i wouldnt be able to guess curvature without making proper pieces. Im making these, but had to though out how. Surely its quite easier than pof builders have to endure, but i dont have any sort of mill anyway...after checking against plan its not quite there yet but tweaking along. Thankfully i had to sand off only backside of them. I made jig mimicking center piece where they will be. offset by 2.5 mm according to plan right next to vertical post fastened to center line. they will be secured nicely along centerline as sticking surfqce is quite long. im still working on them. two in middle are shorter i have to adjust that.. thank you for looking in, comments , likes, advices etc... davyboy, GrandpaPhil, No Idea and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted January 20 Author Share #11 Posted January 20 Thank you for likes, views, comments ... i have small update from another chapter. rather poor carving nameplate attempt. well, here is it...im not sure how am i going to incorporate this into that carved blanket that hasnt yet been started... druxey, KARAVOKIRIS, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted January 28 Author Share #12 Posted January 28 (edited) It should take no more than week or two until I get bulkheads. Im thrilled waiting. I little continued on stern...first making planking grove and transom planks.. next massive ornamental piece that attaches to the skeleton. im not good at scraping but i tried to make- modify pattern out of comercial one to mimic prototype....photos to say more. transom will be black but i intend to leave ornamentals natural boxwood so far. I should cover it at this stage not to smudge it much. thanks. Edited January 28 by Vladimir_Wairoa add davyboy, G. Delacroix, CiscoH and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted February 2 Author Share #13 Posted February 2 (edited) Hello, I finished half of hawse timbers kind of ..."mimic'. its probably overkill for pob, but im satisfied with outcome enough. I cant imagine comfy planking wirhout this structural part. only half yet though , im quite done. firstly I made bulkheads no0 and from there jig for it. I made bulkheads removable from one another, so when finished i will glue those together. and hole for bowsprit of fourse. thank you for watching etc. it will take some time to finish second one so i will post afterwards. what do you think? ) Edited February 2 by Vladimir_Wairoa add CiscoH, scrubbyj427, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted February 11 Author Share #14 Posted February 11 (edited) some continuation... started from opposite sides...bowsprit hole 28degrees, and masts resting holes..main mast is going right thru bulkhead so i had to think a bit... thanks for stopping by. till next time ...i hope bulkheads will be faired. so far so good though i guess i lowered stern profile 5 mm down though I will see how many problems arises when fairing hull...i intend to measure curvatures with blank plank... Edited February 11 by Vladimir_Wairoa add GrandpaPhil, No Idea, ChrisLBren and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdgiantman2 Posted February 11 Share #15 Posted February 11 Atta boy!! Nice job making those hawse timbers for the bow, and your fashion pieces in the stern look great too. I am enjoying this blog No Idea and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted February 11 Author Share #16 Posted February 11 2 hours ago, bdgiantman2 said: Atta boy!! Nice job making those hawse timbers for the bow, and your fashion pieces in the stern look great too. I am enjoying this blog thank you. Will see after fairing though, how those turns out. There will be some sanding off I presume. My plan is to reinforce skeleton a bit more with balsa wood and treenail planks with brass but im not there yet. these preparations are crucial. tokorrow i d like to continue assemblinh all bulkheads and start fairing. cheers. CiscoH and No Idea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted February 24 Author Share #17 Posted February 24 (edited) phoenix raises from the ash This is first time i have priviledge to build from boxwood at will and Im quite perplexed how beautiful this wood is not for carving only but for bending as well. its pure joy to work with and I am delighted how helpful this is. So I finished starboard side from wells up. Sharp eye wipll spot my usual sinful things as unnecessary repairs. It was constant pressure on me whether planks would meet upper end correctly, so there it is. After brute thorough sanding boxwood colors out almost white. im not sure what final treatment to use for it. tung oil? one can spot not advanced fancy modeling here as cutouts around gunports... its quite obvious how this shape differ from english tradition shapes, being fattest at the prow thinning slender aft. and how shallow is foreship curvature. I like most enter of forecaatle opening up outwards of deck providing splash protection. its really modern cathedral of ships. as far as moldings, according compendium, streak between double molding between gunwales and channel strip can be black or yellowˇ I tried to leave it natural not sure if permanently. maybe later on i will paint it black so it will provide one color up down molding shape. so far i like it this way too. well there will be longer because as I have worked franatically in this and my fingers need rest. thank you for looking in and any comment etcetera.... I dont like looking at bare skeleton, finally this long passage is behind me and part of boat is coming up. there is now other side to be done. same work same challenge. and now million dollar question. treenail or not :))) ://// hm hm. i guess i will do. i never tried it before. outward strake shape is my favorite one. better view.... damn there she goes... upper deck gunwales closer. most important curvature of entire ship. 2 mm thick strakes ...and holes before fairing. . I like idea bowsprit hole is just underneath front small deck...so so but 4 mm molding just fitted. barely but...will work on it later. on the aft side its "just there". curvatures... overall... bowsprit support simple doors opening with one ugly seam moldings are quite substantial gunport sill detail Edited February 24 by Vladimir_Wairoa add G. Delacroix, No Idea, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted February 24 Share #18 Posted February 24 Looking good Vlad. Moving along nicely. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idea Posted February 24 Share #19 Posted February 24 Nice job Vlad and I agree about the boxwood its lovely to work with mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted February 24 Author Share #20 Posted February 24 4 hours ago, scrubbyj427 said: Looking good Vlad. Moving along nicely. Thank you my friend. scrubbyj427 and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir_Wairoa Posted February 24 Author Share #21 Posted February 24 3 hours ago, No Idea said: Nice job Vlad and I agree about the boxwood its lovely to work with Thanks Mark. No Idea and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted February 25 Share #22 Posted February 25 She's looking sharp and yes, boxwood is a wonderful wood to work with. As for painting? It's your choice. Some builders use little to no paint, others go all out. I'd wait until you have her planked and then decide. CiscoH 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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