Team ricky Posted February 10 #1 Posted February 10 Hi guys New around here, are there any members who like building steam boats ? my background is mainly plan-scratch built rc aircraft Irl job marine engineer 20 years ! just building a nice 42” mahogany steam ship with scratch built boiler and engine Jay 1, Ian_Grant, Baker and 12 others 11 4 Quote
Baker Posted February 10 #2 Posted February 10 mtaylor, Keith Black and Knocklouder 3 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
CPDDET Posted February 10 #3 Posted February 10 Very nice build! Welcome aboard mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose
Bob Cleek Posted February 10 #4 Posted February 10 Most impressive! Please keep posting. Marine live steam is a sideline interest of mine. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
Jim Lad Posted February 10 #5 Posted February 10 hello, and a warm welcome to the forum from 'Down Under'. That's a very nice looking steam launch you're building there! John mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted February 10 #6 Posted February 10 Welcome! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
TBlack Posted February 10 #7 Posted February 10 Mighty nice. Wish you had shown us how you had built that hull. Tom mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
SiriusVoyager Posted February 10 #8 Posted February 10 Welcome to MSW! mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote - Eric Drafting: Sultan Arab Dhow Finished: Norwegian Sailing Pram, Lowell Grand Banks Dory, Muscongus bay lobster smack, OcCre Palamos, San Francisco Cross Section
mtaylor Posted February 10 #9 Posted February 10 Welcome to MSW. I'm assuming this is a working steamer for say pond use? We've had very few of those but we have had pond ships (non steamers) and static steramers. I suggest you open a log in the scratch area as it's the appropriate place to let lus follow along. Rik Thistle and Keith Black 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Keith Black Posted February 10 #10 Posted February 10 Rick, welcome to MSW. Great steam model. Glad to have you aboard. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Team ricky Posted February 11 Author #11 Posted February 11 Thanks for the warm welcomes! If I try to create a thread in Scratch section it’s greyed out ….. can a moderator move this topic over ? got a lot more pictures and parts to share ! cheers all Baker, mtaylor and Keith Black 2 1 Quote
Team ricky Posted June 18 Author #12 Posted June 18 A bit more done well a lot more !! I have fitted the steam plant completely and fitted a water pump system off the crank, Cunningly clever made from a mustard tin with bypass valve… I can now run the boat on bypass pumping no water into the boiler - then when needed dock and close the cave to inject a tank into the boiler and even too up and repeat! The hull is close to 30 coats of oil and the last process will be gloss yacht varnish… I’ve got the radio to fit east job and the cabin roof tops again easy , Then on to the details/rails flag staffs and other deck finishes oh and a name ! druxey, Keith Black, tmj and 5 others 6 2 Quote
Team ricky Posted June 18 Author #13 Posted June 18 Here’s a short vid of the steam plant running It’s super controllable and not too hungry on steam ! When I get the servos in I’ll probably maiden the boat to see if there are any issues before final finishes IMG_3007.MOV Keith Black, tmj, Ian_Grant and 1 other 2 2 Quote
Team ricky Posted June 18 Author #14 Posted June 18 Here’s a vid after I adjusted the fitting of the coupling to reduce the ticking sound ! It will be even quieter underload FullSizeRender.MOV mtaylor, tmj, Ian_Grant and 1 other 1 3 Quote
Keith Black Posted June 18 #15 Posted June 18 Wonderful! Rick, do you live on a narrowboat? If so I'm envious. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
ccoyle Posted June 18 #16 Posted June 18 Moved to the build logs section. Took a best guess at the correct time period. Keith Black and mtaylor 1 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Team ricky Posted June 19 Author #17 Posted June 19 I live on a Dutch cruiser If you set them up well it’s a great life! mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
Keith Black Posted June 19 #18 Posted June 19 Rick, I'd appreciate seeing photos of your home on the water unless that's invading your privacy. Truly wonderful work on the steam engine, thank you for posting. mtaylor and TBlack 2 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
KeithAug Posted June 19 #19 Posted June 19 (edited) Ah! it is a wobbler engine. If you ever want to try something a little more efficient - double acting, self starting and reversible you can always try this on your next model. https://www.machinistblog.com/downloads/paddleduck/04_building_a_model_steam_engine_from_scratch_chapter_4_567_418.pdf I built one and it works a treat. Nice work on Miranda. You should do a build log on the boiler and engine build. You seem to be living on a boat? Edited June 19 by KeithAug mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846
Team ricky Posted June 19 Author #20 Posted June 19 Hi Chaps , here’s a picture of home GrandpaPhil, Keith Black and mtaylor 2 1 Quote
Team ricky Posted June 19 Author #21 Posted June 19 That’s a brilliant build Keith thanks for sharing that ! I’m building 2 Marcher steam engines right now… one piston valve and one slide valve ! Oh an a whim buy was also the larger Borderer which I’m tickling at ! mtaylor, KeithAug, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote
Keith Black Posted June 19 #22 Posted June 19 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Team ricky said: here’s a picture of home And a lovely home she is, thank you for sharing. If you don't mind me asking, where's home port? Edited June 19 by Keith Black mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
tmj Posted June 19 #23 Posted June 19 It doesn't get much better than this! "Fantastic work and a wonderful project this is!" Viewing this build log, and the videos, could easily send me down a very interesting 'rabbit-hole', or two... and possibly get me into a lot of trouble with my wallet and the Mrs.! mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote "The journey of a thousand miles is only the beginning of a thousand journeys!" Current Build; 1776 Gunboat Philadelphia, Navy-Board Style, Scratch Build 1:24 Scale On the Drawing Board; 1777 Continental Frigate 'Hancock', Scratch Build, Admiralty/Pseudo Hahn Style, "In work, active in CAD design stage!" In dry dock; Scratch Build of USS Constitution... on hold until further notice, if any. Constructro 'Cutty Sark' ... Hull completed, awaiting historically accurate modifications to the deck, deck houses, etc., "Gathering Dust!" Corel HMS Victory Cross Section kit "BASH"... being neglected!
Team ricky Posted June 19 Author #24 Posted June 19 It’s very rewarding! some bits are expensive if you’re not already set up with at least a mini lathe and mill attachment here’s mine it’s very capable and extremely accurate probably more so than larger machines for small parts! you can make all your own hardware, thread cut with change gears, use a rotary table for Pcd work just the full package! Ive found if it’s a case of buying the engine and boiler that Clevedon steam is the best value, you can finish the wood cladding and put the fittings in which gives a bit of ownership mtaylor, Keith Black and tmj 3 Quote
KeithAug Posted June 20 #25 Posted June 20 13 hours ago, Team ricky said: here’s a picture of home Boat life looks good - particularly as you seem to have a stove for heating. I assume she is still mobile? Nice work on those engines. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846
Team ricky Posted June 20 Author #26 Posted June 20 Yes the boats fully functional I don’t go out to be honest as it a bit of a busman’s holiday!! it’s certainly nice to be able to change locations if you want mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote
KeithAug Posted June 20 #27 Posted June 20 (edited) 6 hours ago, Team ricky said: it’s certainly nice to be able to change locations if you want Sounds wonderful. What is the bi-plane if you don't mind me asking? Edited June 20 by KeithAug mtaylor, GrandpaPhil and Keith Black 3 Quote Keith Current Build:- Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24 Previous Builds:- Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/ Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702 J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029 Other Topics Nautical Adventures http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846
tmj Posted June 20 #28 Posted June 20 For whatever it is worth, I designed and built a Stainless Steel 10 gallon 'Fire-Tube' steam boiler for my employer this past spring. He wants us to be able to steam bend 1.5" diameter and 2" diameter solid round hardwoods as a new product line for our Architectural construction related business. Nobody else seems to do that, so we'll likely be the first. I've also designed and built a curious steam bending fixture that has adjustable 'false bulkheads' to be used as forms to bend the wood around, after steaming. No need to cut out plywood forms, etc. Just adjust the bulkheads to the proper locations for the radius required and you're ready to bend wood. It's powered by a 9,000-pound winch that folks typically put on their Jeeps and trucks for off-road stuff. 9,000 pounds will allow for much thicker timbers should the boss ever want to steam bend such. Yes, all these woods will be compression bent to prevent splintering and failures. My steam chamber is made from 6" x 6" square stainless-steel tubing that is 14' feet long, with a 1/4" thick wall. Operating pressure is adjustable but expected to be set somewhere around 2psi within the chamber. The heat softens the wood, the steam is only a 'carrier' of that heat. I'm hoping that 2psi of steam will enhance and accelerate the penetration of heat into the timbers requiring less time in the chamber and increasing efficiency and daily production. We'll see if I'm right when all is finally said and done. The chamber hasn't been built yet. Anyway, the attached video is of my initial testing of the boiler system. I needed to ensure that there were no leaks, and also make sure that my math was correct and that I was not accidentally building a potential BOMB! The tests went well, but not without a few nervous moments. The attached video shows the boiler making steam on its first firing. The exhaust hole in the center of the top has some temporary shielding insulating the hot gasses escaping from the boiler stack from coming into direct contact with two redundant emergency pressure relief valves. One relief valve is there to blow if the boiler pressure exceeds 6psi. The second relief valve is there in case the first valve fails, or the pressure builds too rapidly and needs a little extra relief! The boiler has been completed and now has a proper 'chimney'. This video is mostly just an operational test and a leak check. When I actually tested the relief valves, I moved some metal shields in place to protect anyone from shrapnel should the boiler blow up. All went well, but I must admit that I almost pooped my pants when those safety valves finally let go. I was expecting a gentle 'HISSSSSS' that would gradually get louder and louder until it started to get quieter and quieter. That didn't happen at all. Both valves let go, at the same time, with a sudden, unexpected, thunderous ROAR that was deafening! "Scared me half to death, as well as half of the factory employees!" Too bad that I didn't video 'that' one, huh! Anyway... now you know one of the reasons why I find your build log and your steam engine build so very interesting! 🙂 Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote "The journey of a thousand miles is only the beginning of a thousand journeys!" Current Build; 1776 Gunboat Philadelphia, Navy-Board Style, Scratch Build 1:24 Scale On the Drawing Board; 1777 Continental Frigate 'Hancock', Scratch Build, Admiralty/Pseudo Hahn Style, "In work, active in CAD design stage!" In dry dock; Scratch Build of USS Constitution... on hold until further notice, if any. Constructro 'Cutty Sark' ... Hull completed, awaiting historically accurate modifications to the deck, deck houses, etc., "Gathering Dust!" Corel HMS Victory Cross Section kit "BASH"... being neglected!
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