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I'm starting my third ship model, the Model Shipways Muscongus Bay lobster smack (1:24).

 

I'm especially looking forward to this one because I just got back from my first trip to Maine, and got to see how they fish for lobsters now.

 

The kit was packaged like the previous Model Shipways models I've built, with the addition this time of an extra-large sheet with full-size diagrams of the spars and sails. I checked out the parts list, and everything seemed to be there.

 

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Posted

Good luck on your journey!!! 

Bob M.

Start so you can Finish !!

Finished:         The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 ,   Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA  Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar  The King Of the Mississippi  Artesania Latina  1:80 

 

 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models :)

Posted

My previous two builds used frames or molds initially attached to a temporary board. For this one, we start by building the boat's central spine, to which the frames will be permanently glued. The spine is made up of several surprisingly thin pieces of wood, glued together. There's provision for a movable centerboard, but I decided to simplify the build a bit and just glued the centerboard in place.

 

Gluing the main boards of the spine together took every clamp I have!  After that was dry, several odd pieces were added to reinforce the spine at different points.

 

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Posted

I've installed the frames now. To  make sure they were exactly at right angles to the spine, I used rubber cement to position some temporary supports made from old scraps until the glue was dry.

 

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The transom and frame 10 had to be built together. The start of some interesting curves in this model. Plus, some fingers-crossed clamping as it was attached.

 

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The cockpit seats came next. These needed to be painted now since they'd be hard to reach later, so I got to bring out the red paint.

 

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And then, the deck. It came as two long, complicated, very thin sheets of wood that had to be wetted and carefully shaped into place, with more creative clamping and rubber banding. It took a couple of passes to get all the points that needed to be glued actually attached.

 

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It's really starting to look like a boat, and it doesn't yet have any hull at all. Very rewarding.

 

Posted

Your journey continues.  I am coming along for the ride. 

 

I believe you can never have too many clamps.  I have a 16X22 inch tub with various sizes and types of clamps including the old standby of spring type clothes pins, plus push pins and small nails. (I even swiped several straight pins from the Admiral's sewing kit.) They are organized roughly by size, type and strength.  

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Robert Chenoweth

 

Current Build: Maine Peapod; Midwest Models; 1/14 scale.

 

In the research department:

Nothing at this time.

 

Completed models (Links to galleries): 

Monitor and Merrimack; Metal Earth; 1:370 and 1:390 respectively.  (Link to Build Log.)

Shrimp Boat; Lindbergh; 1/60 scale (as commission for my brother - a tribute to a friend of his)

North Carolina Shad Boat; half hull lift; scratch built.  Scale: (I forgot).  Done at a class at the NC Maritime Museum.

Dinghy; Midwest Models; 1/12 scale

(Does LEGO Ship in a Bottle count?)

 

Posted

Hi Dan!  Just peeking in on the beginning of your Lobster Smack.  Great start so far! This was a fun, educational build for me.  You should enjoy it!  And, as you have already discovered, you can never have enough spring clamps or rubber bands!  I think everyone had a challenge in connecting the two sides of the deck to where it looked proper, so you did fine with it.  

 

Will continue to follow your progress!  Carry on! 👍

Gregg

 

Current Projects:                                                             Completed Projects:                                                                 Waiting for Shipyard Clearance:

 Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin     Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways                    USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways

                                                                                              Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways        Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways 

                                                                                              H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft                             RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (May now never get to it)

                                                                                              Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways

Posted

A quick side note. In step 10, one of the instruction photos seems to show a piece along the keel being installed upside-down. I think what might have happened is that the kit has changed and the photos have not been updated.

 

The photos from the instructions show the end of the keel piece (to the right) rests over the end of the stem piece.

 

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In the model, this joint appears to have been turned over.

 

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Should I report this somewhere? Does Model Shipways follow these forums?

 

Posted

As a novice myself, those type of things make me want to second guess myself. I bet those photos in the manual were made in the 70’s 🙂 This is a build that after you finish, you feel like you could build another. Then you can’t decide, so you just buy several:-) You’re doing a great job!

Current builds: 

Le Martegaou- 1:80 - Billing Boats


Back on the shelf: 

Gretel - Mamoli

Nonsuch 30 - 1:24 - Model Shipway

 

Completed builds:

Mini Oseberg no 302 -Billing Boats

Sea of Galilee boat

Lowell Grand Banks dory,         Norwegian sailing pram

Muscongus bay lobster smack

Peterboro Canoe- Midwest

Captain John Smith’s shallop - Pavel Nikitin

Chesapeake double kayak

Posted

I probably wouldn't worry about the lap joint since the end result is basically the same.  However, you could probably make a comment on the ME website in a review of this kit.  When you're finished with the Lobster Smack you could upload photographs of all three models under the Shipwright's Combo kit.  I've enjoyed following your builds so far of the Dory and Pram.  I'll be following your Lobster Smack build. I bought this combo kit with the idea of making some small holiday gifts for friends.   Keep up the good work!

Wawona 59

John

 

Next Project: Gifts for friends:  18th Century Pinnace, Kayak 17, Kayak 21

 

Indefinite Hold for the future:  1/96 Flying Fish, Model Shipways

 

Wish list for "Seattle Connection" builds:  1/96 Lumber Schooner Wawona, 1/32 Hydroplane Slo-Mo-Shun IV, 1/96 Arthur Foss tug, 1/64 Duwamish cedar dugout canoe, 1/96 Downeaster "St. Paul"

 

Selected Previous Completed Builds:  Revell - 1/96 Thermopylae; Revell - 1/96 Cutty Sark, Revell - 1/96 Constitution, Aurora - Whaling Bark Wanderer, Model Shipways - 1/96 Phantom, AL - 1805 Pilot Boat Swift, Midwest - Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Monitor and Merrimac, Model Trailways - Doctor's Buggy

 

Posted

I'm in the middle of planking.

 

In my last model, I used steam to soften the planks for bending, but though it softened them fast, they seemed to cool just as fast and I found myself without enough time to shape the planks.

 

This time I'm using hot water again. I did the first few in a thermos of boiled water, but the planks got too long for that. Now I'm just boiling them on the stove in a big frying pan 🙂 Being soaked through with boiling water, the planks stay hot and flexible longer.

 

Of course, then it takes forever for the planks to dry again 😞

 

I'm guessing this is one of those problems without a perfect solution, but I'd love suggestions if there are better ways.

Posted

Good morning Dan, the more you try, the more you think of other ways. Then you will find the way that works best for you:-) There are many skilled builders here ( I’m not one of them) that you will witness in their build logs that will spark another idea. I believe things like this just add to the build and also make it just yours:-) Keep up the good work.

Current builds: 

Le Martegaou- 1:80 - Billing Boats


Back on the shelf: 

Gretel - Mamoli

Nonsuch 30 - 1:24 - Model Shipway

 

Completed builds:

Mini Oseberg no 302 -Billing Boats

Sea of Galilee boat

Lowell Grand Banks dory,         Norwegian sailing pram

Muscongus bay lobster smack

Peterboro Canoe- Midwest

Captain John Smith’s shallop - Pavel Nikitin

Chesapeake double kayak

Posted

Hi Dan, your lobster smack is coming along very nicely. You’ve probably seen in other people’s build logs suggestions that they look at Chuck’s tutorials on plank bending where it shows using jigs and heat provided by a small iron. Once they cool they tend to hold their shape. If the plank needs a twist you can clamp one end to the bench and use a heat gun to bend and twist the plank with your free hand. I’ve noticed that if planks are soaked in water for too long they lose their ability to gently curve from one bulkhead to the next. Instead they bend at the bulkhead and head straight to the next one. This is of course just my opinion 😀. Good luck with your build!

Regards……..Paul 

 

Completed Builds   Glad Tidings Model Shipways. -   Nordland Boat. Billings Boats . -  HM Cutter Cheerful-1806  Syren Model Ship Company. 

 

Posted

Great job, keep up the good work and unless you plan on staining the hull, wood putty fixes most mistakes.

 

Current Projects:                                                                                          Completed Projects:

Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways - 1:96                                      Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack - Model Shipways - 1:24

Phantom New York Pilot Boat - Model Shipways - 1:96                         18th Century Long Boat - Model Shipways - 1:48

                                                                                                                 Norwegian Sailing Pram - Model Shipways - 1:12

                                                                                                                 Lowell Grand Banks Dory - Model Shipways - 1:24

                                                                                                                       

 

Posted

Chuck's videos are great! I found them here on Youtube.

 

His videos are not so much about bending planks around curves in the hull, my current problem, than they are about adapting rectangular planks to fit well on a hull that is not the same distance around on the top and bottom of where the plank is installed. In the beginner models I'm doing, the individual planks are custom-shaped by laser-cutting, so that's taken into account already. I'm sure I'll need Chuck's techniques when/if I start doing models that just come with a stack of identical, rectangular planks that need to be fitted.

 

I've been browsing other plank bending videos, and I'm starting to think I want an electric plank bender. But before I do that, I'm going to read some more forums.

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

I'm about done with the planking, except for a tiny bit more work with plastic wood and sanding things smooth.

 

I won't post plank-by-plank photos, but here are a few highlights.

 

The hull mostly faired:

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Stem, keel, and sternpost:

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Installing the garboard, using some of the plank clamps I bought at Model Expo. These did not work very well for me.

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Then I made some clamps from binder clips like I've seen on some other build logs here, and was much happier with those.

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So, after a lot more of that, and also switching to using an electric plank bender, I started filling cracks and sanding and have gotten it looking like this:

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Posted

Looks very good, Dan!  Great work so far.  I recall doing a ton of sanding at different grits all over the hull, but especially around the stern.  And, yes, I loved using the binder clips, as well!  Carry on! 👍

Gregg

 

Current Projects:                                                             Completed Projects:                                                                 Waiting for Shipyard Clearance:

 Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin     Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways                    USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways

                                                                                              Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways        Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways 

                                                                                              H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft                             RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (May now never get to it)

                                                                                              Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

It's past time for an update. I've gotten most of the deck assembly completed.

 

Trimmed the protruding sheer plank down to deck level all the way around. Except that it didn't quite protrude everywhere, so I glued in an extra piece of wood to fill in the gap, then trimmed everything down together.

 

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Trimmed the ragged plank ends around the transom and smoothed everything.

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Installed toe rails.

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And rub rails.

 

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The fairleads are a bit rough, but there.

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And there's a Samson post (what a name!)

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Oarlock pads.

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The coaming goes around the back of the cabin.

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The cabin sides go similarly around the front. There are window openings, so I painted a couple of little scraps black and glued them inside.

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The wet well covers are glued on.

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The cabin bulkhead assembled:

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Cabin bulkhead and roof installed. And you can see here the black pieces inside the windows.

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The sliding cabin hatch and runners are also installed, but I seem to not have any photos of that.

 

Next up: some prep work and painting.

Posted

Coming along nicely, Dan! Great work! 👍

Gregg

 

Current Projects:                                                             Completed Projects:                                                                 Waiting for Shipyard Clearance:

 Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin     Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways                    USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways

                                                                                              Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways        Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways 

                                                                                              H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft                             RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (May now never get to it)

                                                                                              Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways

Posted

Dan, this looks wonderful. I have my Lobster smack arriving this week, and I am hoping to jump into it arround January. I still need to complete the sailing pram first.

In progress

18th Century Merchant half hull planking - NRG

 

In queue

Norwegian Sailing Pram - Model Shipways

Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack - Model Shipways

Peterborough Canoe  - Midwest Products/Model Shipways

Batelina - MarisStella

 

Completed

Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks

Grand Bank Dory - Midwest Products/Model Shipways

Posted

The boat is now painted, and work continues.

 

The traveler, tiller, fairleads (eyebolts in the deck beside the cabin).

 

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The trailboards on either side of the beakhead.

 

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The bowsprit, which had to be rounded.

 

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The chainplates. For this model, they had to be made from a strip of brass.

 

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The cleats were provided, but needed painting.

 

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The mast was constructed by gluing together two laser-cut pieces, then trimming down the resulting long stick with a rectangular cross-section to a round tapered stick.

 

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The mast fittings included mast hoops, made from thick copper wire, some ring bolts, and two stop cleats, which were further trimmed after this picture was taken.

 

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The boom and gaff were constructed similarly to the mast.

 

Up next: sails and rigging!

Posted

That is Plaid's Apple Barrel Matte Bright Red (20501E).

 

I should say that after painting those seats matte red, I switched to gloss finishes. They look so much better (to me), in person if not in photos.

Posted

I agree Dan, I rather have a semi or gloss on these kits. My plan for my Dory it to paint it using Mr Color lacquers with my airbrush.

In progress

18th Century Merchant half hull planking - NRG

 

In queue

Norwegian Sailing Pram - Model Shipways

Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack - Model Shipways

Peterborough Canoe  - Midwest Products/Model Shipways

Batelina - MarisStella

 

Completed

Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks

Grand Bank Dory - Midwest Products/Model Shipways

Posted

Dan, are you finding working with brass pretty easy? Any tips?

In progress

18th Century Merchant half hull planking - NRG

 

In queue

Norwegian Sailing Pram - Model Shipways

Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack - Model Shipways

Peterborough Canoe  - Midwest Products/Model Shipways

Batelina - MarisStella

 

Completed

Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks

Grand Bank Dory - Midwest Products/Model Shipways

Posted
2 hours ago, Jim M said:

Dan, are you finding working with brass pretty easy? Any tips?

In previous models I've had to cut lengths of brass rod. I used a cutting wheel on a Dremel and it worked very well.

 

This is the first time I've had to drill holes in brass, and I didn't find it easy.

 

Trying to drill holes through the brass with a hand drill went very, very slowly, even after annealing the brass with a kitchen butane torch.

 

I got impatient and resorted to trying to use the tiny drill bits in my cordless screwdriver/drill and that actually worked pretty well. I'll probably do that again if I can.

Posted

I've been making sails, doing the rigging, and finishing up odds and ends, and here's the result:

 

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There were challenges along the way, but as before, they made the completion more exciting.

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