Nick 843 Posted Friday at 12:30 PM Share #1 Posted Friday at 12:30 PM Hi to all. Just joined here and want to introduce myself. Vanguard's Indefatigable arrives today, so that's a major reason for me joining, although I also have a couple of non-wood ship models on the go. I do a fair amount of non-wood modeling: plastic and resin, and including aircraft and armor. I also do some non-model woodworking stuff. None of this is meant to suggest that I'm good at it BTW. As far as Indefatigable is concerned, it will be my first wood model. So yes, I'm an enthusiastic noob who has overreached in terms of skill level, which is cautioned against in a post I read the other day about choosing your first ship model. I've seen the stats, but I'm going in aware of the challenge and betting that I'll see it through; feel free to lay your own bets on it LOL. I grew up on Hornblower and Aubrey and the period's history. I came across the Indy kit when a YouTube vid popped up about a week ago; by a YouTuber with the moniker Modelkit Stuff who did a full unboxing video. The kit looked amazing. I checked it out a bit more and bought it within a day or so. Anyway, I'm not thinking this will be a breeze. I bought in the knowledge that I have a serious learning curve on any number of aspects but it will be a while before I get to the first of them, so I can learn (at least in theory) in the meantime. I figure, on going through the construction manual (which is terrific) for a second time now (and slower than the first jump through), that I can get to around step 126 before hitting anything totally unfamiliar. In saying all of this and the last part in particular, I sure don't want to sound arrogant. I know the learning curve will be steep in various areas, and I'm sure I'll hit some difficulties and be scratching my head more than a few time, never mind the aspects as to which I'm completely ignorant. For steps 1-125, I only mean that those steps involve stuff that is generally familiar, with the exception that the medium is wood rather than plastic or resin; I don't mean that I dismiss it all as simple. If I get through them there will still be 821 steps for me to mess up, not to mention masting and rigging. I don't know what my timeline will be, although with Winter not far off and outdoor activities already tapering off, I'll have plenty of time between now and next Spring (not saying I'll necessarily finish by then). Cheers everyone. Nick 843 ccoyle, Baker, Stuka and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPDDET Posted Friday at 12:36 PM Share #2 Posted Friday at 12:36 PM Welcome aboard! mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald-V Posted Friday at 12:54 PM Share #3 Posted Friday at 12:54 PM Welcome! And have fun with this enormous monster the quality of the kit looks great. As a beginner, one of the biggest challenges is the shear amount of work building a ship of this magnitude implies, and how to deal with that. Personally I think the difficulty is quite steep yes, but as you already discovered...the manual is really good and Chris his designs are really great. But...I wish you a lot of succes with this one You can always pause the build and do a small ship in between, to refine you're skills... would that be nessecary. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted Friday at 01:22 PM Share #4 Posted Friday at 01:22 PM Welcome aboard, Nick, from the author of the post you referenced! As I wrote in that post, it is not unheard of for a newcomer to our hobby to finish a project on the order of Indy, but it is rare. Nevertheless, you sound like you are well aware of the challenge ahead, and you will find as much help as you need here at MSW. Good luck on your project! P.S. You'll see in their signatures that many of our members also dabble in modeling subjects other than ships! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 843 Posted Friday at 01:48 PM Author Share #5 Posted Friday at 01:48 PM Thanks all of you for your welcomes! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocklouder Posted Friday at 02:02 PM Share #6 Posted Friday at 02:02 PM Bob M. Keith Black 1 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 , Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar The King Of the Mississippi Artesania Latina 1:80 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted Friday at 02:04 PM Share #7 Posted Friday at 02:04 PM Keith Black 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 843 Posted Friday at 02:40 PM Author Share #8 Posted Friday at 02:40 PM Thanks Knocklouder and Baker! mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted Friday at 02:48 PM Share #9 Posted Friday at 02:48 PM Welcome! mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted Friday at 02:54 PM Share #10 Posted Friday at 02:54 PM Nick, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Poirier Posted Friday at 02:55 PM Share #11 Posted Friday at 02:55 PM Welcome! mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Current project: HM Armed Cutter Sherbourne Completed projects: Lowell Grand Banks Dory, Norwegian Sailing Pram, Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 843 Posted Friday at 03:00 PM Author Share #12 Posted Friday at 03:00 PM Thanks GrandpaPhil, Keith Black, and Dan Poirier! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted Friday at 03:33 PM Share #13 Posted Friday at 03:33 PM Welcome (or should I say bienvenue!) Nick! I'm jealous of your Indy - such a beautiful kit! hamilton mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 843 Posted Friday at 03:51 PM Author Share #14 Posted Friday at 03:51 PM Thanks (merci) Hamilton! mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen McGuire Posted Friday at 04:27 PM Share #15 Posted Friday at 04:27 PM Welcome aboard, Nick! I hope that you will create a build log for this epic adventure so we can follow along. Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds: BlueJacket Constitution Repair & Build Flying Dutchman/Black Pearl Pirates of the Caribbean SIB Gallery: Mamoli CSS Alabama; Amati Hannah-SIB; Charles W Morgan-SIB; Aurora-SIB; Independence-SIB; Zheng He Treasure Fleet-SIB; Adventure Galley-SIB; Oseberg/Kraken-SIB; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw-SIB; Wa'a Kualua-SIB; Ghost Ship Jenny-SIB; Banshee II-SIB, Completed build logs: Alabama; Hannah; Morgan; Aurora; Independence; Zheng He Treasure Fleet; Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley; Oseberg/Kraken; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw, Wa'a Kualua, Ghost Ship Jenny; Banshee II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 843 Posted Friday at 04:38 PM Author Share #16 Posted Friday at 04:38 PM Thanks Glen! A maybe at this point on a build log. I wouldn't want anyone thinking that I have any experience or knowledge in wooden ships to offer. But then again maybe a sort of abbreviated log identified as coming from a newbie on particular issues. We'll see. Ronald-V, Keith Black and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Grant Posted Friday at 06:49 PM Share #17 Posted Friday at 06:49 PM Great kit, though formidable. All the best for this kit, and hoping to see a build log! (Go Habs Go!!!) Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 843 Posted Friday at 07:34 PM Author Share #18 Posted Friday at 07:34 PM Thanks Ian! Habs fan also. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thukydides Posted Friday at 10:32 PM Share #19 Posted Friday at 10:32 PM Welcome Nick 5 hours ago, Nick 843 said: Thanks Glen! A maybe at this point on a build log. I wouldn't want anyone thinking that I have any experience or knowledge in wooden ships to offer. But then again maybe a sort of abbreviated log identified as coming from a newbie on particular issues. We'll see. You should still do one. It is the best way to get help as you go along. I also personally found the practice of documenting my build kept me motivated when I got bogged down in the middle. The help and feedback I got on my log made my first model way better than it ever could have been had I just done it on my own. As others have said you have picked a lot of ship for your first build and I would still advise you to pick something smaller to try first (Vanguard has some really nice cutters). But at the end of the day you need to be interested in your subject or you will never finish it. Good luck. JacquesCousteau, mtaylor, Ian_Grant and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Grant Posted Saturday at 01:34 AM Share #20 Posted Saturday at 01:34 AM 3 hours ago, Thukydides said: Welcome Nick You should still do one. It is the best way to get help as you go along. I also personally found the practice of documenting my build kept me motivated when I got bogged down in the middle. The help and feedback I got on my log made my first model way better than it ever could have been had I just done it on my own. Good luck. Thukydides is right. You will get all kinds of help from other members if you log it. Thukydides, mtaylor and Keith Black 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted Saturday at 04:20 AM Share #21 Posted Saturday at 04:20 AM Keith Black 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 843 Posted Saturday at 11:31 AM Author Share #22 Posted Saturday at 11:31 AM Thanks Thukydides, Ian, and mtaylor! Good points about a build log, and had been thinking on it also, and guess I will do one. Unpacking the box and organizing just now. Day 1 of building should be tomorrow. Thukydides, mtaylor and Keith Black 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuka Posted Saturday at 06:58 PM Share #23 Posted Saturday at 06:58 PM Welcome Nick! Quite a daunting task ahead I can imagine but I will eagerly watch it. And good luck for you will surely need it 🙂 Keith Black 1 Quote Kind regards Robin Current build Vanguard Models HM Armed Cutter Sherbourne 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiriusVoyager Posted Sunday at 12:03 AM Share #24 Posted Sunday at 12:03 AM Good luck on the build! Welcome to MSW! mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote - Eric In the shipyard: San Francisco Cross Section Finished: Norwegian Sailing Pram, Lowell Grand Banks Dory, Muscongus bay lobster smack, OcCre Palamos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick 843 Posted Sunday at 11:24 AM Author Share #25 Posted Sunday at 11:24 AM Thanks Robin and Eric! SiriusVoyager, Stuka and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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