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You had me worried there for a minute, Kevin.  I thought that last picture was indicating you had turned Vic into a planter.   :P  :P   I'm so glad you haven't... the rigging is looking better and better every time.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Thank you Jerry 

I also just bought another 50 hooks - just in case 

 

Thank you Mark that's a real compliment - means a lot to me

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I keep looking at your last photo and the way the masts are reminds me so much of how she looked back in 2011 in Portsmouth...

 

Can I ask, how you tapered the masts? I am asking because I have no lathe or other tools to be able to taper easily. All I have is a david plane that I rarely use as when I do I end up taking far too much off :(

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Regards,
 
Dominic


Current Build: HMAV Bounty by Caldercraft 1:64

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Hi Dominic....

Is there any way you can get access to a drill press?  I turn all my masts and yards on a bench drill press. 

Just wondering.

Best,

Jerry

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Jerry not at the moment. I have a 4 by 6 corner of our bedroom at the moment.

 

Early into next year though I am having a large section at the top of my garden decked and a purpose built workshop built on it so I can start to invest in a few larger power tools.

 

My method for tapering is I simply fit the mast into a low powered drill and use sandpaper and taper that way...but it leads to rather warm hands :huh:

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Dominic


Current Build: HMAV Bounty by Caldercraft 1:64

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Well, Dominic, one gets warm fingers when using the drill press also; actually...HOT fingers.....

By the way, thanks, Kevin, for letting us use your site to correspond on.

Best,

Jerry

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Dominic look at page 2 and 3 of Gils build, but i used a cheap lathe from screwfix, since added a chuck to it from Axminster tools (i think it was from there)

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Jerry if it is relevant to the build then I dont see a problem - after all it can bee weeded at a later date

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Thanks Kevin. A lathe will have to wait for now...I simply have no where to put it.

 

Dont know how yet I am going to complete this Vic...she is longer than my current workbench :huh:

 

I've been looking at Gil's methods. The 1 on page 3 is interesting...not sure if I read it wrong, (and haven't read/checked the plans yet), but it seems the taper he made on the lower foremast is only on the side, so are they actually not round then?

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Dominic


Current Build: HMAV Bounty by Caldercraft 1:64

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Tapered with flat side - so the saddle fits

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good evening everyone - well this is my attempt at the carthapins - i found it quite fiddly - making sure the tension of the shrouds wasnt altered and the fact the ropes them self s are different lengths -  

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the phots do show that i need better scissors so that I can get closer to the tie off (ordered from amazon) - also my lack of skills - lol as some parts of the futtock stave now looks over crowded 

 

is there more than one type of beeswax- the stuff i am using leaves a yellow residue on the thread - 

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Nice job, Kevin.  I, too, found it difficult to maintain tension in the futtocks but eventually it worked out.  Keep going, you're doing very well.

Best,

Jerry

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Hi Kevin, 

I imagine there are different brands of bees wax but I do not know of any.

 

Sorry,

Mort

 

PS

 

Keep up the great work.

Current Build - Caldercraft Victory

 

Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William 

 

Waiting to be Launched -  Bluejacket Constitution

 

 

Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society

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Are you using the soft yellow beeswax like that used for sealing the toilet (loo) to the waste pipe?   There is a hard, white, beeswax used by carpenters. 

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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This is what i received - hard yellow - will try and order a white one and see how I get on

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Hello Kevin, 

 

it´s always a pleasure to watch the pictures of your Victory. It´s easy to forget that it´s "only" a model and imagine she is a real ship.

 

You give me much inspiration with your work. Keep it on!

 

Greetings

 

- Heinz -

thank you - but your build is far better than mine

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Good evening 

 

Re-did the lower foremast preventer (preventor)  and made the one above it  - at least i can forget about them for now - until the time comes to snaking the two together

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ratlines 

 

Using A4 lined paper it has given me the alternate lines - looks like i will have to do about 29 of them, done the first 5 - but already my skill set has over taken them so will replace them during the week, - the Caldercraft natural thread get very fuzzy - - so i am staining them with a clay wash, wiping dry then running then through the beeswax about 5 times - seams to have helped a lot 

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Kevin...Jusst repeating how smart I think you are to wax your rat lines.  It makes a huge difference in many ways and not at least in keeping your rigging dust free.  My Cutty Sark, which has all of its rigging waxed, has not had a speck of dust settle on any of her rigging for the past 18 years.

Best,

Jerry

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well - this is something new for me, a mid week update

allays learning something new- but now realise that the ratlines don't go across all the shrouds at the top and bottom, havnt found out why though yet

anyway, nothing is fixed yet 

 

using the caldercraft natural line 0.1mm dyed with a clay wash and then waxed

 

experimenting with coloured card to see if I can get a better photo

 

 

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it wasn't until I took the phot's tonight that i realised how much number 1 shroud has been pulled in - i dont quite know how im going to sort that out without redoing them - lol which might end end replacing the whole lot - oh well

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Kevin,

It looks like the problem started back in post 1021.    Try running vertical lines to match the shrouds before doing the ratlines as point of reference.  Yeouch... that looks most of them need to be reworked.   I think a lot of us end up re-doing ratlines, if that's any comfort.

 

Edit.. brainstorm.... brace the masts over and slacken the first deadeye...  :)  ;)

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Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Mark 

looking at the pictures i think I may have created my own problem with Number 1 shroud where it is secured to the futtock stave, as much as I regret it - I may have to go and start all over again and produce new shrouds and then possibly go for black ratlines rather than the white (stained grey) lol - i might as well then paint the yellow bands pink at the same time 

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Kevin,

If you'll at the photo from above that I've attached... note the red arrows..  I think your lower alligator clip is the responsible party that's where the greatest "pull" is.  The knots as indicated by the arrows followed that curve of the shroud.  The stave is above the curve and the upper alligator clip and had nothing to do with it.

 

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Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Mark I released Number one shroud from the futtock stave, and it now lines up a lot better, as to weather it is good enough, I will wait to see how the Port side goes

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Good evening , well Im a happy bunny tonight, started the port side, which is building up much faster as I gain confidence

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Indeed, sir.   It looks 1000% better. What was it, too far forward on the stave?   Port side is shaping up wonderfully. 

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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