captainbob Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share #181 Posted April 9, 2014 Thanks Keith. Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share #182 Posted April 9, 2014 So now it’s time to attach the chain plates and deadeyes. To do that, I will need sixteen 1/8” (about 3mm) deadeyes. Yes, I could buy them but where’s the fun in that? Some time ago I remember seeing a jig a forum member had made to make deadeyes. So working from memory this is my, I think, third jig. You don’t want to see the first two. First on a .005” brass strip I used for a template, I drew a 1/8” diameter circle and located three .020” holes. My second try looked OK. I had a scrap of hard wood, (I don’t know woods but I think it is rosewood.) 1/16” thick, I drilled a tight fit 1/8” hole in it to hold the deadeye while drilling the lanyard holes. All this was mounted to a piece of scrap wood. The first wood I tried for the deadeyes was too soft and fell apart after drilling. So I turned a piece of straight grained walnut (I do know some woods) before my lathe quit, to 1/8” and it worked fine. Being held together by a single screw you drop in the blank, pivot the holder over the base and drill one hole. Then, I found out the hard way, put a pin in that first hole to hold the deadeye in place as you drill the other two holes. That’s it, and now I have to do it again. I need four .09” diameter deadeyes. Oh well. Bob kruginmi, hexnut, Elia and 6 others 9 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted April 9, 2014 Share #183 Posted April 9, 2014 Way to go, Bob! John captainbob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted April 9, 2014 Share #184 Posted April 9, 2014 Way to go. I hope your lathe is not down permanently. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted April 9, 2014 Share #185 Posted April 9, 2014 Bob: Nice work on the deadeyes. That is a lot like the one I use, but yours is much nicer. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Salomone Posted April 10, 2014 Share #186 Posted April 10, 2014 Hello Bob, Your schooner is getting along quite well. The brass pieces are very neat indeed. Just one question. What method do you use to bend the brass? Quote Cheers Paul NEVER RETREAT - NEVER SURRENDER JUST DO IT YOUR WAY AND NEVER LOOK BACK Current Build: 1:72nd German WWII Heavy Battle Cruiser DKM Scharnhorst http://modelshipworld...1:72ndDKMScharnhorst/ Future Build Logs: German WWII Captured Flower Class Corvette. German WWII Armed Trawler. German WWII Aircraft Carrier - Graf Zeppelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share #187 Posted April 10, 2014 Thanks Paul. It’s nice to see you back on the forum. As for bending the brass I mainly use three tools. A pair of Jeweler’s pliers with a smooth clamping face so it does not mar the brass. A pair of round nose pliers that I modified by filing down one side to a smaller diameter. I made a hammer from a 3/4” diameter piece of delrin plastic. Bob mtaylor, Mirabell61 and Elmer Cornish 3 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted April 10, 2014 Share #188 Posted April 10, 2014 Nice techinique. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted April 10, 2014 Share #189 Posted April 10, 2014 Bob, nice method of doing the deadeyes, respect, but lots of spanning, drilling and Fixing work.... Question, why do These yourself, is it because of "throughout scratch build" ? Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Salomone Posted April 10, 2014 Share #190 Posted April 10, 2014 Good evening Bob, Thanks for the tip. Can surely use your technique on my build, especially for the rigging. You will be very surprised with the amount of rigging, the Scharnhorst had. Nobody would ever image it, when considering that it was a WW2 heavy battle cruiser. Quote Cheers Paul NEVER RETREAT - NEVER SURRENDER JUST DO IT YOUR WAY AND NEVER LOOK BACK Current Build: 1:72nd German WWII Heavy Battle Cruiser DKM Scharnhorst http://modelshipworld...1:72ndDKMScharnhorst/ Future Build Logs: German WWII Captured Flower Class Corvette. German WWII Armed Trawler. German WWII Aircraft Carrier - Graf Zeppelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted April 10, 2014 Author Share #191 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Nils, Ah yes, why? I could have bought them off the web for a lot less than the time I spent making them. I guess there are two reasons. First I didn’t have any the right size and didn’t want to wait to receive them in the mail. And secondly it was just to see if I could. Paul, glad I can be of help. Bob Edited April 10, 2014 by Cap'n'Bob Mirabell61, mtaylor and dgbot 3 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted April 10, 2014 Share #192 Posted April 10, 2014 that's a cool way of making dead eyes.......I could have used that for the 3.5's for the goth..... I guess it's much in the same way I made the hearts for the goth.....and very much for the same reason. Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted April 10, 2014 Share #193 Posted April 10, 2014 Very nice work on the dead eyes Bob. Keith thanks for posting those links about the pilots. michael themadchemist 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted April 11, 2014 Share #194 Posted April 11, 2014 Nils, Ah yes, why? I could have bought them off the web for a lot less than the time I spent making them. I guess there are two reasons. First I didn’t have any the right size and didn’t want to wait to receive them in the mail. And secondly it was just to see if I could. Paul, glad I can be of help. Bob Nice answer Bob, that ist he true model builder speaking... well done ! Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted April 11, 2014 Author Share #195 Posted April 11, 2014 Popeye, Michael, Nils. Thank you all. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Biles Posted April 16, 2014 Share #196 Posted April 16, 2014 Hi Bob, I was just catching up in your Lettie C Howard log. Most of your pix are missing from what I could see. I thought you'd like to know. Best of the day to you. Walt Quote Current: America Schooner https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/10887-america-schooner-pof-by-walter-biles-radio-pof-scale-148-from-blue-jacket-plan/ Prior: MERIDEA https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/140-meridea-by-walter-biles-radio-34-scratch-cad-of-boat-at-usn-severn-river-repair-station-ca-1969/ SAMSON First build: Scratch POF Spanish Galleon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share #197 Posted April 17, 2014 Walt, Thanks for letting me know about the pictures. I think I have them fixed now. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share #198 Posted April 22, 2014 Ah, the problems we create for ourselves in this joyous game we call ship modeling. Now I needed to make the chain plates and deadeye straps to go with the deadeyes I made last week. That was the problem. I tried to soft solder the wires for the deadeye straps, but as I bent the wire around the deadeye the solder joint broke. I needed to silver solder. I had not silver soldered since I was a teenager. So I dug out a torch, some silver solder and some flux and melted a few inches of wire. Finally, like riding a bicycle, the memories returned and I soldered the rings. I bent the wire with the solder spot in the wrong place. Placed the wire around the deadeyes and fastened them to the chain plates. The more I looked at them the more I didn’t like them. The solder spots were harder than the wire and did not bend the same and as I forced them around the deadeyes the deadeyes started to fall apart. What a mess! So, as I had told so many others, it was time to start over. I went back to the start and made a new jig to drill the deadeye holes. Rather than evenly spaced I placed the holes, two on the diameter and one at right angle to them. I also made them out of harder wood. This time when I soldered the wire I used less solder. And when I bent the wires I was more careful as to where the solder spot was. These were much better. These I can use. So I did. I mounted them with only one pin at this time so they can pivit to the correct angle when I do the rigging. Then I will put in the second pin. The first two pictures are of the bad parts. Bob Solder spots in the wrong place. You can see the flats on the wires crushing into the deadeyes. Good parts Jig for shaping straps Good assemblies Mounted dgbot, mij, Erebus and Terror and 9 others 12 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted April 22, 2014 Share #199 Posted April 22, 2014 Good looking chain plates. I am in the process of doing the same thing for my current project. Nice work on yours. Russ Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted April 22, 2014 Share #200 Posted April 22, 2014 the perseverance pays in the end, nice work Bob. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted April 22, 2014 Share #201 Posted April 22, 2014 Perseverance pays off! Nicely done, Bob! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford Posted April 22, 2014 Share #202 Posted April 22, 2014 That's the joy of scratch building isn't it? Nicely done. Quote Ships built :- Schooner for Port Jackson Thermoplylae Bluenose II Full size Tammie Norrie dinghy 1:8 scale Miss Caroline, model of the full size boat I built Under construction :- Royal Caroline, this one is special as it is in memory of my 13 year old daughter, Caroline who passed away in 2005 Miane three masted schooner R/C, scratch build (on hold) Charles W Morgan (on hold) Scratch designed and built R/C Mahogany and Walnut speedboat (on hold) In the que :- S.T. Waratah, maybe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Biles Posted April 22, 2014 Share #203 Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Glad to see you back at the table Bob. Keep working away at it. Hope all is well with you and the Admiral. I have been busy with other things these past weeks. Of course XP was all of my systems, and the only one upgradable was too broken down and slow to put more money into. Then the New in-expensive Windows 8 has already gone into the Shop condition-wise, so it wasn't so inexpensive after all. My son, on my pleading, is coming up next weekend to hopefully fix and stabilize the new one. He has been in that business for many years now, starting with Microsoft just awhile out of school. Anyway, I have been too busy to do anything on my boat(s?). I have been doing some reading on the Constitution book. There is an awful lot in that Anatomy of a Ship book. I was doing some CAD updating on my boat, but that is about all. Keep up the good work, Bob. Walt Edited April 22, 2014 by Walter Biles Quote Current: America Schooner https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/10887-america-schooner-pof-by-walter-biles-radio-pof-scale-148-from-blue-jacket-plan/ Prior: MERIDEA https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/140-meridea-by-walter-biles-radio-34-scratch-cad-of-boat-at-usn-severn-river-repair-station-ca-1969/ SAMSON First build: Scratch POF Spanish Galleon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted April 22, 2014 Share #204 Posted April 22, 2014 Similr to the way I did mine good job. David B Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted April 22, 2014 Share #205 Posted April 22, 2014 As I contemplate the construction of the upper chain and deadeye interface for my build I worry about the exact problem you had. I'm so glad to the members of MSW that are willing to share the struggles as well as the solutions around those problems, It makes life easier for those of us doing it the first time. Not that I'm saying I'll get it on the first try now, but rather it instills the cold hard fact that in scratching an assembly that even the masters of this art with many wonderful builds under their belt, still have issues and do-overs are just a part of a learning curve that just seems to be an integral part of this hobby. Thanks for sharing, I like the design of your chains. It makes me wonder if I should reconsider how I construct mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted April 22, 2014 Share #206 Posted April 22, 2014 Bob lovely to read your own comments on your Trial and then mastery built deadeye straps. They look great and besides that you dicovered and used the silver solder procedure again.... Well done ! Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share #207 Posted April 22, 2014 Russ, Michael, John, Walt, David, Keith, Nils, Thanks to all of you, and thanks to the likes. Long ago I was told by another modeler, “If your scrap bin doesn’t outweigh the boat you’re not trying hard enough”. As for the silver solder I used to enjoy it and I’m glad I was forced to use it again. Bob Erebus and Terror 1 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted April 22, 2014 Share #208 Posted April 22, 2014 nice work with the straps and dead eyes. they look great on the ship Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share #209 Posted April 22, 2014 Thanks Popeye. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elia Posted April 23, 2014 Share #210 Posted April 23, 2014 Bob, Very nicely formed strops and chainplate assemblies. Those are some details and smartly complement your schooner. Cheers, Elia Quote Elia Rose Valley, PA Arethusa: 1907 Gloucester Knockabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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