HMS Victory by Heinz746 - Caldercraft

[Heinz6672]

Hallo liebe Community,

 

nachdem ich dieses Forum schon eine ganze Zeit beobachte, habe ich mich entschlossen, nun auch meine Victory vorzustellen. Ich bin noch ziemlich neu in diesem Hobby und habe mir mit der Victory von Caldercraft einen ziemlichen Brocken vorgenommen. Ich habe zwar bereits an einem kleineren Modell geübt, allerdings waren meine Gedanken immer bei dem Caldercraft-Bausatz. Im Dezember 2013 habe ich ihn mir nun gekauft, damit die liebe Seele Ruhe hat.

 

Warum die Victory - ein Schiff, dass bereits 1000 x gebaut wurde? Und das von Menschen, die mehr davon verstehen, als ich. Ganz einfach: ich finde sie schön. Und es gibt jede Menge Fotos  - teils vom Original, teils von anderen Modellbauern.

 

Ich habe weder den Anspruch, sie in Museumsqualität zu bauen, noch dem Original in allen Details historisch einwandfrei zu entsprechen. Hierzu fehlen mir die handwerklichen Fähigkeiten, die professionellen Werkzeuge und das Wissen. Ich will sie so gut wie möglich bauen. Und wenn ich auf Fotos und/oder im Internet auf Details stoße, die ich mir handwerklich zutraue, dann werde ich versuchen, es im Rahmen meiner Möglichkeiten umzuseten.

 

Ich freue mich auf eure Anregungen und Tipps. Und los gehts mit dem Rumpf...

 

Moderator translation via Google Translator

 

Hello dear community,

after I been watching this forum for quite some time, I decided, now imagine my Victory. I'm still pretty new to this hobby and have made ​​up my mind with the Victory by Caldercraft quite a chunk. Although I have already practiced on a smaller model, but my thoughts were always with the Caldercraft kit. In December 2013 I have now bought it to me so dear soul rest.

Why the Victory - a ship that already 1000 x built? And this from people who know more about it than I do. It's simple: I find them beautiful. And there are lots of photos - some from the original, partly from other modelers.

I have neither the claim, they build in museum quality, yet the original suit historically accurate in every detail. To this end, I lack the technical skills, professional tools and knowledge. I want as much as possible build. And if I come across photographs and / or the Internet to details that I trust my craft, I will try it umzuseten within my means.

I look forward to your suggestions and tips. And there you go with the hull ...

Edited August 14, 2014 by mtaylor
Added English Translation

[Heinz6672]

Nachdem ich zunächst die Holzleisten, in denen die Kanonenrohre der beiden unteren Batterien gesteckt werden, zunächst nur dunkel gebeizt habe, habe ich mich doch dazu durchgerungen, sie mit schwarzer Farbe zu bepinseln. Das Selbe gilt für die Räume zwischen den Spanten. Und das obwohl mich mir ganz sicher war/bin, dass die Stückpforten dieser beiden Decks geschlossen werden.

 

Ich habe dies in einem Modellbaubuch gesehen. Wenn ich richtig liege, hat Herr Longridge die Victory so gebaut. Mir gefällt, dass hierdurch die schöne Form des Rumpfes besser zur Geltung kommt. Ausserdem mag ich die Kanonenattrappen nicht.

 

Im Endeffekt war die Arbeit für die Katz´. Aber ich habe dabei ja Fern gesehen :-)

 

[Stockholm tar]

Heinz,

 

Welcome to the site, and you look to be doing a good job on your Victory. However, this is an English forum, and I'm sure the members would appreciate your log rather more if you wrote in that language, please.

[Heinz6672]

Mit den vorgefertigten Teilen mit den Stückpforten hatte ich einige Mühe. Das Biegen fiel mir sehr schwer, so dass sie sicherlich nicht so genau angebracht werden konnten, wie es der Plan vorsah. Das hat natürlich zur Folge, dass die Stückpforten auch nicht perfekt ausgerichtet waren. Wie ihr an den Fotos sehen könnt, habe ich mir daher die Mühe gemacht, jede Pforte neu auszuschneiden und einen Rahmen einzusetzen, auf der die geschlossen Klappe später einmal aufliegen soll.

 

Viel Arbeit, die ich unter die Rubrik "Lehrstunden" verbuche. Aber egal. Der Weg ist das Ziel...

 

 

[Heinz6672]

They asked me to write my posts in English. This is much harder for me than to build the Victory.

After I built the bottom deck and the entrance area, I built the side walls inside and painted with color. I had the sides painted several times until the color really covered. The walnut wood is still very dark and shining through quickly. I did not like the result. If I build a modelll of wood, then I would also like to see the wood. Otherwise, I could also build a model of plastic. So I bought new wood and torn down the sides again.

[Heinz6672]

I bought elderberry wood, as this has a natural yellow coloring. This I will use for the inside and the outer planking. The contrast with the walnut I really like. But see for yourself ...

[Heinz6672]

The middle deck I planked with the accompanying Tanganyika wood. I have always left a small gap, and this sealed with a black putty. This is supposed to represent the caulking. Although the timber has been coated previously, some residue remained on the surface are. That was not planned, but gives the whole a very nice old look.

[Heinz6672]

The rear area with the preparatory work. I have enlarged the window because I dont want to use the attached window frames. I would prefer to install own builded frames of wood. I am thinking here of thin oak strips that I stain bright. In the side galleries I've already installed a foil instead of glass.

[Heinz6672]

Now I have started the second planking. Since I do not work here with color, but with different types of wood, the gradient can not be like the original. I suppose but gladly accept. At the present time I am a bit further than in these photos. However, I have rebuild a few things again, because I was not happy with the way of the planks. Coming soon I will show you the result.

 

[Heinz6672]

As you can see, I've come a lot further. I'll edit the gunports partly because I'm still not satisfied with them. And then I have to think about how I will make the flaps.

I just got delivered just new elderberry wood. Unfortunately, the new wood looks more green than yellow. I have my dealer wrote an e-mail. I hope he can help me here.

[clearway]

Beautiful use of different woods there looks fantastic.

Keith

[foxy]

Very nice build.

 

Like the  cradle idea you have built to hold the ship.

 

Foxy

[Heinz6672]

Thanks for the nice words. I am very happy because I was absolutely unsure if ever someone likes what I do. I have not so much experience and try a lot without knowing whether it succeeds.

As you can see, I have now closed the first piece doors. Again, I used walnut strips for this purpose. I have it installed so that they protrude half a millimeter. So they are not flush with the planking of the ship. I know that this is not quite correct. But I think that they are now better seen as gates.

[Littlebob]

First let me say welcome to the forum, second your work pretty fast and very clean, I really like that yellow colored wood you used for the inside of the bulwarks.

[ccoyle]

Heinz,

 

It may be difficult to write, but your English is quite passable!

 

Cheers!

[Heinz6672]

thanks google translater

[Heinz6672]

Now I have all gunports closed and start the planking on the other side. Hopefully I manage this site just as good. I got a little scared.

On the other hand, I know now how it goes.

[shihawk]

hi Heinz welcome to the site and i see you have similiar ideas to me about a wood finish ,but by the look of your log i still have a lot to learn and as your at a similiar stage to me i will be keeping a close watch to pick up a few tips and maybe learn a few new skills  .Keep posting plenty of pics ! Love it

[Heinz6672]

Thank you for the nice compliments. I see myself still as a beginner who is learning a lot from forums and from the Internet.

Shihawk: You've also provided photos of your model online? If we have the same ideas, I would like to also see your solutions ...

[shihawk]

from your log i would have said you were past the beginner stage !!. i have a build log of a Billings Victory feel free to check it out .

[Shipyard sid]

Greetings Heinz

Yes, excellent work, and as Boyd says, it's hard to believe you are just a beginner. Keep up the good work and enjoy your build. DAVID

[Heinz6672]

Thank you again. Your opinion means a lot to me. And without the many suggestions that I win in your posts, my Victory would look different today - if I had started it at all.

This Victory is the third model that I started. Previously, my father built model ships and I have taken the love for this hobby from him (shown below the Friesland he recently built. You can see her now in my living room).

My first attempt was the San Felipe. I loved this ship, until I found out that she has never existed. I've read that it was a mixed from the styles of different nations. It's like you make a model car from Porsche, VW, Mercedes and Ford together. It looks like a ship. But nothing more. I made a lot of mistakes when planking the hull. And every time I wanted to remove the wrong thing, much is broken on her. Sometime I wasnt able to save her at all.The hull was totaly damaged. I chucked everything.

 

After 1 week in which I could only think of ships, I bought the construction set of Le Tonnant. I wasn´t really interested in this ship, although it looks very nice in the catalog and she wasn´t too expensive. However, it has never sparked my enthusiasm. But before I would start another expensive model like the Victory, I wanted to try different things that I have seen on the internet (and here in the forum). The Le Tonnant was a test.

I made mistakes again, but also learned a lot that I have already implemented at the Victory. Last year I coundn´t resist her anymore, so I ordered the Victory.

The fact is, I still have not built a model to the end. So I consider myself a beginner. It will certainly come many problems that I have never felt busy. I hope that this forum will help me at this point. On the one hand with your valuable advice, on the other hand with the added motivation that you give me.

[latestarter]

I have always been fascinated by the ships of this period and especially the Victory, I have made the journey several times to tour her. It would be my greatest joy to attempt the build, but alas I came to this hobby far too late in my life and I am not sure if I have enough years remaining to complete this great venture. Now I will restrict my pleasure to dreaming of what might have been and reading the great logs of the fantastic builds of this ultimate model.

[Heinz6672]

Unfortunately, my father can not build shipmodels anymore. He is 73 years old and by various diseases no longer able to hold small parts or edit them.

 @latestarter: If your health allows, I would start to build a model immediately. We all do not know how much time we have in life. And if you are unsure, you can also start a smaller project like a cutaway model of Victorys mast, for example.

Don´t waste your time in thinking what could have been. Just start and let´s see how far you get.

I guess you have much more time to build a modell than I have. I can only practise in the evening or weekend after work. I am sure you will pass me very soon. And that means I can get your advices in the future...
 

[latestarter]

I am about halfway through 'Pickle' and strangely enough I have considered a cut away section of Victory, anybody can reccomend a particular one?

Incidentally I am addicted to this forum, and I am amazed that there is so much talent out there.

[Heinz6672]

Hello everyone!

Another update from me. I know it tooks me a long time to do the planking of the left side of my victory. But I have to say that I am quite happy with the result. What do you think about it?

 

The challange will be to build the other side similar to it. If I don´t get it I can still  copper it...

 

 

[Heinz6672]

Hello everyone!

Another update from me. I know it tooks me a long time to do the planking of the left side of my victory. But I have to say that I am quite happy with the result. What do you think about it?

 

The challange will be to build the other side similar to it. If I don´t get it I can still  copper it...

 

 

[Mirabell61]

Wunderbar Heinz,

 

clean, neat build, super planking Job, Looks like it is going to be a facinating model

 

Nils

[Heinz6672]

Thank you so much, Nils, this really means a lot to me!!!

[Carlmb]

I didn't think you posted it but is the lower deck planked in walnut ?