rafine Posted September 28, 2017 Share #451 Posted September 28, 2017 A wonderful model Ken. You have every reason to be very proud of your work. Bob EJ_L and zappto 2 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zappto Posted September 28, 2017 Share #452 Posted September 28, 2017 This is worth to place in the museum, seems alive. Enjoy it. EJ_L 1 Quote Current build: Mamoli - La gloire 1778 Finished builds: Mamoli - Friesland 1663 Mamoli - Lexington 1776 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted September 28, 2017 Share #453 Posted September 28, 2017 Beautiful build, congratulations EJ_L 1 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted September 28, 2017 Share #454 Posted September 28, 2017 Beautiful model Ken. Well done! Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted September 28, 2017 Share #455 Posted September 28, 2017 Beautiful job,, Ken. Extraordinary. EJ_L 1 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSGerson Posted September 28, 2017 Share #456 Posted September 28, 2017 With such a beautiful model, how are you going to display it? Hopefully you won't just put it on a shelf to collect dust. What are your plans? EJ_L 1 Quote Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution Past Builds: Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share #457 Posted September 28, 2017 Thanks Al, Bob, Zappto, Don, E.J., Dave and Jon for you comments. And Jon: I do intend to get a case before I allow my son to take it home. Cheers. EJ_L and alde 2 Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share #458 Posted October 5, 2017 The model is finished! I made an ensign which I’m flying from the gaff. I followed Chuck Passaro’s method from his log about his new kit of the Queen Anne Barge which can be found at ‘https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/12476-syren-ship-model-company-news-and-forthcoming-new-projects-products/&page=9’. His method worked and I’m really pleased with the flag. A few words about American ensigns during the Revolutionary War: According to the US Navy ‘American Navel Flags of the Revolution’ web site, the Continental Congress in 1777 ”passed an act establishing a national flag for the United States of America. The law specified the flag have thirteen stripes and a blue ‘cannon’ of thirteen stars. No further details were specified.” This lead to several variants of navel ensigns, the most famous being John Paul Jones’ ensign with red, blue and white stripes and eight pointed stars. For my last model I decided to use the ensign flown by John Barry on the US Alliance which had 7 white stripes, 6 red stripes and eight pointed stars. For the Rattlesnake I’m using a “common variant” of 7 white stripes, 6 red stripes and five pointed stars arranged in a unique pattern. I guess I like being different. But I am the captain. (Notice that I neglected to trim some lose threads attaching the ensign block to the gaff.) More Photos: captgino, russ, JerseyCity Frankie and 20 others 23 Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenD Posted October 5, 2017 Share #459 Posted October 5, 2017 God I love it! Fantastic work all around. EJ_L and Martin W 2 Quote Ropes of Scale.com - Rope and cable for the scale modeler. Finished builds: HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft - 1:64 - 9th century longship - Falkonet - 1:72 Current builds: HMS Snake - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Tender Avos by BenD - Master Korabel - 1:72 - 19th Century Four-Oared Yawl by BenD - Falkonet - 1:24 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted October 5, 2017 Share #460 Posted October 5, 2017 I don't think there are enough ways to say congratulations on such a magnificent build! You did truly inspiring work on her Ken. Now it's time to just sit back celebrate and admire the work! Do you have a next project planned? This was such a great build I would hate to miss out on another. BenD and Martin W 2 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland Craze Posted October 5, 2017 Share #461 Posted October 5, 2017 Congratulations on completing your Rattlesnake. You did a super job on building her and I really enjoyed following your build log. EJ_L 1 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ Posted October 5, 2017 Share #462 Posted October 5, 2017 Ken: Well done. This is a beautiful model. Congratulations. Russ Martin W and EJ_L 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSGerson Posted October 5, 2017 Share #463 Posted October 5, 2017 I LIKE IT! Martin W and EJ_L 2 Quote Current Build: Model Shipways USS Frigate Constitution Past Builds: Bob Hunt's kitbash of the Mamoli Rattlesnake Model Shipways Typical Ship’s Boat for the Rattlesnake Mini-Mamoli solid hull British Schooner Evergreen Model Airways Albatros D.Va - 1917, The Red Baron's Forgotten Fighter Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtosail Posted October 5, 2017 Share #464 Posted October 5, 2017 Great job Ken. She is just beautiful. Martin W and EJ_L 2 Quote - Tom - Current Build: Vanguard Speedy Completed: Vanguard Duchess of Kingston, Stove Project, Ships Wheel Project, NRG Capstan Project, Billings Half Moon, Dumas Chris Craft 1938 27' Triple Cockpit Barrel Back, Panart Santa Lucia , Model Shipways Constitution , MS Bounty Launch , HMS Beagle Member: Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share #465 Posted October 5, 2017 Thanks Ben, E.J., Ryland, Russ, Jon and Tom; as well as for all the 'likes'. Cheers to all. Martin W and EJ_L 2 Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captgino Posted October 5, 2017 Share #466 Posted October 5, 2017 Another beautiful build! You are good a great job, as always big fan of your furled sails. EJ_L and Martin W 2 Quote Jean-Philippe (JP) Current build: Syren , HMS Victory Cross Section, Essex Please visit and subscribe to my YouTube Channel On Hold: Rattlesnake (Scratch built) Completed: Armed Virginia Sloop, Viking ship, The Flyer, Pilot Boat, Krabbenkutter, Marie-Jeanne, Sloup, The Smasher, Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted October 5, 2017 Share #467 Posted October 5, 2017 Echo what these folks said. Steve EJ_L and Martin W 2 Quote Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_wilmer Posted October 6, 2017 Share #468 Posted October 6, 2017 Ken, I'm so happy to see your ship in the photo feed on the home page! Congrats on your completion!! -John Martin W and EJ_L 2 Quote -John Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted October 6, 2017 Share #469 Posted October 6, 2017 Congratulations, Ken. The Rattlesnake is a lovely ship, and you have done her full justice. Display your build proudly! Cheers, Martin Quote Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share #470 Posted October 7, 2017 Thanks Jean, Steve, John and Martin. It was a fun journey. Good luck to you in your journeys as well. Cheers. Martin W and EJ_L 2 Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share #471 Posted October 21, 2017 One last observation. At some time during the build, a question was raised as to the scale of the Rattlesnake vs the Fair American. While I agree that there are scale issues with the MSW Fair American, I don't think it's the same scale as the Rattlesnake. The photo shows the 2 masted, 14 gun Fair American next to the 3 masted, 20 gun Rattlesnake. And while the length of the two models from tip of the boom to the tip of the jib boom is the same, I think the Rattlesnake model is clearly done in a smaller scale. Thanks to all who followed this build and I hope to have another build log started soon. Martin W, EJ_L, zappto and 4 others 7 Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted October 22, 2017 Share #472 Posted October 22, 2017 Scale issues are well known in model building no matter the subject. I too would have thought that Rattlesnake would have been a bit larger. No expert on either ship but a 20 gun three master would, to me, be larger than a 14 gun 2 master. Maybe not by much but a few feet in length, breadth and height. Any case, you have a couple of very beautiful models to proudly display! Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBlake Posted October 22, 2017 Share #473 Posted October 22, 2017 (edited) The Fair American (MS) is 1:48 scale; the Rattlesnake (MS) is 1:64 scale. If the Rattler were in 1:48 scale, it would be 1/3 again as long as it is in 1:64 - clearly the larger vessel. The problem is that the Fair American is a model of a model...original plans for the vessel don't exist, so some speculation may have been involved. Edited October 22, 2017 by DocBlake EJ_L 1 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted October 22, 2017 Share #474 Posted October 22, 2017 I’m thinkin’ you need to build the Syren so I can steal so more great techniques. Your Rattlesnake is a true work of art. BZ Ken. EJ_L 1 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted October 22, 2017 Author Share #475 Posted October 22, 2017 Thanks E.J. and Dave. I'm completely convinced that the Rattlesnake is built at a smaller scale(1:64) than the Fair American (1:48). And, thanks for the kind words Jim; as well as for the 'likes'. Cheers. EJ_L 1 Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted October 22, 2017 Share #476 Posted October 22, 2017 Great work Ken what a fine model you have made, love the look of the furled sails, very well done. 😊 B.E. KenW and EJ_L 2 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted October 22, 2017 Share #477 Posted October 22, 2017 Beautiful model Ken, Congratulations KenW and EJ_L 2 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted February 17, 2018 Share #478 Posted February 17, 2018 Like usual I am late to the party. Well done Ken, something to aspire too!! Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyCity Frankie Posted June 26, 2018 Share #479 Posted June 26, 2018 Congratulations! I missed the entire log and only noticed it when it made its way to the front page Completed Models Gallery. Arriving late to the party, but I have to say that this is one of the best build logs I’ve seen AND it’s one of the most well built and presented models I’ve seen too. It’s flawless. Every one of your photos is well shot cropped and lit. All the details of your model appeal to my sense of “how a model aught to look”. I love the subject, I love the execution, I love the presentation, and I’m very impressed with the finished results. There can’t be many better Rattlesnakes out there, maybe none? KenW, Tigersteve and Jim Rogers 3 Quote Quote Niagara USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share #480 Posted November 27, 2018 Thanks Frank. I didn't notice this post until just now. Sorry I missed it. Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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