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I've gotten some details such as cap rail, fenders and side steps installed and painted the remainder of the hull. Starting to look like a ship...
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Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops of the Royal Navy
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With the size of the class, and their designed purpose, particularly at a time when the RN was in massive build mode, the likelihood of am economical to build design seems to make sense. -
Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops of the Royal Navy
jwvolz replied to molasses's topic in Nautical/Naval History
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Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops of the Royal Navy
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I'm very intrigued now with the square vs. round tuck information, as like Jason, all the plans I've seen have the square tuck. This includes the Chapelle drawings in The History of the American Sailing Navy of the captured Epervier. -
Very nice progress Bob. I too found the kit belaying pins too large. I had to drill out all of the pin rails to accommodate them, which squeezed them together a bit. Good idea changing them out.
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jwvolz replied to molasses's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Charlie, This is the stern of the Irene model at the US Naval Academy. I should say, I can't be sure the model you have the photo of is Scorpion or Irene, but it is clearly based off the Irene plans, due to the mid-ship lowered bulwarks,, raised forecastle and poop ( even higher than Cruzier class), deck layout and changes to stern. -
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Charlie, That Epervier model has some issues, and they aren't limited to the figurehead, at least based on my research, so take that whole build with a grain of salt. The Irene model below it includes some of the changes after she was captured, which are documented in the Irene book, including the changes to the stern and head. -
Thanks guys. Not a big update, but I've weathered the copper plating. I used the "bodily fluid" method mentioned elsewhere on the site, and it worked out quite well. It took a few applications to even out due to some initial beading up that occurred. I have used the salt/water/vinegar method in the past on Model Expo tape, and tried it initially this time, but it didn't work properly. I think there is some type of coating on the copper, which is difficult to remove. I sealed the copper with Testor's Dullcote lacquer, applied with my airbrush. I am a bit further ahead than this, but need to catch up on photos.
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jwvolz replied to molasses's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Good luck with the build and start a build log so we can follow along. What scale is your build? Hopefully your book comes with the full-sized plans. I bought mine from a used dealer on Amazon and it did not. It's OK though, Irene was a bit different than mine anyway... -
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See if you can get a hold of the Caldercraft plans for the Cruzier. Maybe check with Cornwall Model Boats. They might sell just those. Druxey's idea is good. I have the book and it's quite helpful. There were standards for these things, based on vessel size, so the use of Steel's is also good advise. -
Thanks guys. Mike: I like it. I've used it four times now on builds. The nice thing is since it is so thin you can gently manipulate some stretch and curve to it which helps keep rows looking neat. Also, the overlap is prototypical, and the tape helps keep the thickness in scale when you do that. It goes quickly, there is no glue to worry about and I have a build that is approaching 20 years old that shows no issues with adhesion of the copper tape. I think the stamp has made it look pretty convincing. We'll see how my weathering turns out next.
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I've spent the last couple weeks working on the coppering. Since the Cruizer kit does not come with copper plates I used Model Expo's copper tape. To simulate the nails I made a jig (several actually, depending upon pattern) and stamped individual plates. A few years back, a member of our model club had given out a large supply of hypodermic tubing in various sizes. I had used it for gun barrels on plastic aircraft but thought in this case it would make the perfect nail simulator. The tubing was cut with a dremel and cut-off wheel and CA'd into a piece of boxwood which had the pattern drilled into it. This was backed with another piece of boxwood and a solid rap with a hammer produced a nice plate. I think the hollow tubing does a great job simulating an actual nail dimple. Copper is hard to photograph...
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Thanks Jason. I hadn't enlarged the gun ports. That's something that may be an issue based on where I am at this point. In fact I haven't even gotten around to ordering the carronades yet... I should be able to manipulate the slides if necessary to make any adjustments to accomodate. I'm expecting my Building the Brig of War Irene book in the mail today, so we'll see how the plans there jive with the Caldercraft ones. If you have your Snake plans handy could you get me the size of the ports? It'd be interesting to compare to the Caldercraft.Cruizer plans.
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Wayne, I found a copy of the book on the Amazon used section, so I'm good to go there now. Thanks for the generous offer. I appreciate it.
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Glad to be aboard Wayne. It sure looks like I'm following you around build-wise. Rest assured I've had this build in my head for a long time, but I'm envying watching your build log immensely! I don't have the Brig Irene book. It's difficult to source one for a reasonable price, particularity one with the plans still in place. I know it would be quite useful... I'm trying to piece together as many resources as possible, but am finding a good deal of disagreement and interpretation. I suspect there was a lot of free reign by the commanders of these vessels to make changes as they saw fit, as evidenced by some of the action reports from the War of 1812 that detail the differences in some of the class involved in the battles. It's nailing down any one particular vessel that's a challenge. Are you putting the raised forecastle and/or poop decks on your build? That seems like one of the more difficult aspects to nail down. The very nice Grasshopper/Irene model at the United States Naval Academy has both. It also has the bulwarks raised on both ends, and seemingly they are lower amidships. On that model the cap-rail sits directly on top of those mid-ship gun ports, which doesn't mesh with what I've seen on other plans, including the Caldercraft ones, which shows them higher.
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Great progress Wayne. Love the look of the cannons and carronades. That's great that you came up with a source for these in scale.
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Congrats on a beautiful model Dave. Well done.
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Thanks Mike. The Morgan is currently mothballed, haven't made a final decision yet.
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Thanks all. No name yet Frank. I've got a little time on that, and I'm trying to pare down the list of over 100 possible names! There are a few front runners. Maybe I'll let my wife pick...
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That came out nicely Bob. I always enjoy seeing varying interpretations and different ways of getting to the same point with things like the head.
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