Landlubber Mike

Hi everyone, happy holidays and new year to all my friends out there Quick update on where I am with my Pegasus. I'm just about done with the section of the hull below the wales that will be above the copper line. I've decided to do that section in pear, and stain it black. Rather than waste a lot of pear that will ultimately be covered in copper plates, I'm using the kit walnut for the non-visible section. I've completed the pear planks for the stem, and am just about done with the pear planks at the stern. I have one more plank to add up to the stern counter, then a few more planks down stern post that will be above the waterline. I'm following the planking pattern in TFFM. It's amazed me at how precise the kit is relative to TFFM and the NMM plans. Also, the walnut planks used in the Amati kit are world's better than the planks used in my Caldercraft Badger kit, which was very splintery. Walnut might splinter more than a tighter grained wood like pear, but the Amati walnut is nice and tight. It's too bad that the variation in the color amongst all the walnut pieces (especially between the walnut ply pieces), as I would have just used the walnut rather than go with pear. I'm getting a little better at spiling, as the later planks are tighter against the planks above. The pictures above are with the planks pre-finished, but I think after some sanding and a couple of small areas that can use a drop of glue and some sanding dust, the planking should come out pretty well. Spiling certainly takes a lot of time, but I think the effect is really nice. I won't lie and say that it hasn't been nice to lay long planks of walnut down to cover up big sections of the hull at a time though

Happy belated birthday my friend!

Gorgeous planking. What kind of wood are you using?

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Hi Ian, we haven't done one of these Corel strategy sessions in a long while, I miss them For the ship's wheel, I would consider putting it behind the mizzen, especially if you are going to add the tiller. I'm not sure that you could add the tiller and its rigging if it was in front of the mizzen. I like the idea of integrating the tiller cover into the flag lockers and getting rid of the skylights. I don't know where the binnacle would go, however. I can take a look at the AOTS Pandora book tonight and give you more specifics on the binnacle style and location. Interesting - take a look at this amazing model of the Pandora. The ship's wheel and binnacle are ahead of the mizzen. I don't recall whether the Pandora had an above-deck tiller, however. It was probably below deck given the location of the "Pandora's Box", a holding cell for the Bounty crew. http://www.shipmodell.com/index_files/0PANDORA3.html The Pegasus, however, had an above-deck tiller - here, the ship's wheel and binnacle are behind the mizzen. http://www.historicships.com/TALLSHIPS/Amati/Pegasus/PegasusV7.htm

Interesting seeing the responses here. I have a Dremel but rarely use it. On my current builds with lots of scratch building, I found myself using the scroll saw quite a bit in the beginning cutting out curved parts for the hull. Now I am using the table saw a lot to cut planks along with other things requiring a straight edge like the various deck items (frames for gratings, bitts, etc.). Above all else though, I think I have used the disc sander the most though. I could never get straight lines by hand, even using those sand-it type jigs. So, if building from a kit, I'd probably lean toward a disc sander.

Really nice work Geoff. Very crisp on the details, looking fantastic!

Really great work Denis. Takes a long time to plank, but done well as you are doing, the results speak for themselves and make the time well worth it

Wow, absolutely gorgeous work Ian! Very very nice job, and a big thank you for the pictorial tutorial! Is that english boxwood from an old ruler? I'm wondering if i can get away with such detail using castello boxwood.

I used the kit tanganyika on my Caldercraft Badger, which I thought was ok, but switched to maple for my Pegasus. Maple is a really great wood to work with, but you do have some color waves in the grain. You can take a look at my Pegasus build (linked below) to see what it looks like. If you want a wood that is uniform in color, some people use holly, which I find a bit too white. Others use boxwood, which can be nice.

Great work Tom on what looks to be a complicated set of timbers. Very nice job!

Thanks Ian. I have to confess that most of my work on the planking has been on my kitchen table and my living room ottoman My "workshop" is in the basement utility room, so no TV or adult beverages close by. I generally use my power tools down there, and then bring up whatever tools I need upstairs. With little kids running around and an Admiral to take orders from, I have to keep the main areas of the house neat. Don't worry, my workbench in the basement is a mess

Very cool build Ken, thanks for sharing all the steps with us. These card models look really intriguing

Hey Ken, just came across your build log. Your planking is amazing - even more so that it is your first wooden build. Very nice job!

Thanks everyone for the suggestions on the aft end of the wales. The mistake was not extending the second row up higher. Not sure why I had taken that approach (maybe because there is a railing that runs across the bottom of the stern counter and into the wale?), but I ended up filling the gap with some custom fit pieces of pear, and sanded a nice curve into the aft end of the wale. I think it definitely looks better now. So this weekend, I've finished what are probably the most complicated planks on the hull - the planks in the second row leading to stem and leading to the stern. Here's a picture of the port side stem plank: Here are some pictures of the stern planks (some more sanding and finishing is needed, but it's late and I've been at it for a while tonight). Like the stem planks, this plank needed to take into account the drop plank above it. What made it more difficult is that the aft end of the plank also had to account for the hull curve up to the stern counter. Rather than use two separate planks, I decided to try and create one plank to fill that space like in the TFFM plans. Like the stem planks, I started with making a template from card, cut out the plank a bit oversize, then used an X-acto, chisel and sandpaper to slowly shape the final plank. After a few hours, I had my first plank. Like the stem side, I was surprised at how close that plank fit on the other side of the hull, so used that plank as a rough template come up with the second plank. Finally, here is a picture of the hull after the first two rows under the wale were installed: So with the first two rows done, the middle portion of the hull to the copper line is done. I have about four more rows of planks at the stem, along with another 10 or so rows at the stem. I'll probably just do partial planks on either side that will show above the copper line, and fill in the remaining hull with the kit walnut planks. Just doesn't make sense to me to spend hours and good quality pear wood planking the full hull when most of it will be covered with copper plating. Thanks for looking in!

Thanks for looking in Mobbsie. Hope all is well with you, my Badger Brother Too bad a lot of this planking will be covered with copper plates! It's been good practice for my Lyme build though, where I plan to leave the full hull in natural wood (no copper plates or white stuff).

Tricky plank Jason, looks very nice, great job!

Ian, great to see an update my friend. Your wheel is amazing. I was hoping to not use any paint on my current and future builds, but worried that I'd have to break that rule when it came to the ship's wheel. I bought a few from other manufacturers, and the wood ones seemed thick and out of scale, while the metal ones seem to scale, but have to be painted. Seeing your results, I might try turning a ship's wheel myself

Thanks for vote of support Mark I've made some good progress on the second row of top and butt planks. I've installed the first three planks of the row - no pictures yet, but I'll post some after I finish that last aft planks (which will take some time as I figure out how to address the wale issue at the stern counter). The plank at the stem on the second row is a real pain. The plank immediately above it is a drop plank, so the plank on the second row ends up filling that gap. Took me quite a bit of time to create the plank. I used card to approximate the shape, and then cut the planks slightly larger and spent a lot of time chiseling/sanding and test fitting. Thankfully the two sides were pretty comparable, so I had a good template for the port side after the starboard side was completed. Here's a picture of the starboard side plank - you can see how complicated the shape is. Glad I got them done - I now have to repeat on the stern side, but then won't have any more drop planks to deal with

Just wanted to wish all my friends in the US and around the world a Happy Thanksgiving (or equivalent holiday). Best wishes to you and your loved ones! I have a 19 pound turkey outside in the smoker cooking away, and wife and in-laws are working on the sides. Will open some wine and in a couple of hours, will be passed out on the couch in a turkey coma watching football.

Thanks guys! BE, you're right about the curve along the stern. I'm going to make a template out of paper to make sure that I have the shape right. Otherwise, I can see myself going through a lot of wood and dropping a lot of naughty words - not good with Santa watching before Christmas... Jason, I saw that Martin took that approach on using a thicker piece of wood and shaping it. He did so with good results. I ended up using my standard 2mm thick wale plank, cut a longer piece than needed, and did a couple of rounds of soaking and pinning to get the curve around the hull. The longer length helped to give me leverage to twist the plank during the soaking/pinning process. I then cut the plank a tad longer and square so that I had material at the stern to shape it into a nice curve. As people are pointing out, what messed me up was not running the plank above it (the second row) up to the counter. Took me a while to figure out what was obvious to most people I think I can shape a little pear plug into that spot, and then smoothing the curve down to that lower plank, should be the trick.

Funny, I was just looking the model, and realized the same thing. For whatever reason, I stopped the second/middle row of planks for the wale short of the counter. The third/bottom row I think is supposed to stop short, but it looks awkward now with the way the second row is I think the easy fix is to custom fit a little piece of pear for that area, and then work a nice curve down through the bottom plank. Thankfully it wale will be dyed black so it will be hard to see my boo-boo. Frank, after re-reading your post, I think you were saying the same thing Mark was. Sorry for the confusion, I thought you were talking about the first strake of planks under the wale.

Hey Frank, thanks for looking in. I'm following the planking pattern in TFFM, which has the first row of planks stop short of the counter - essentially, it's a drop plank so that 10 rows of planks end up converging into 9 rows at the counter. We'll see if I can pull it off

So, I managed to get the first line of planks under the wale completed. It wasn't so bad, and I think it came out pretty well. The nice thing about the spiled planks is how easily they sit on the hull. It also shows you just how complicated the curves are on a hull. I'm about to start the second line of planks. The first line ended in a drop plank at the stem and stern, so the planks on the second line ending at the stem and stern are going to be even trickier to pull off. I still have to shape the bottom corner of the wale at the stern. I feel like it curves too deeply across and under the stern counter. The shape of the plank seems correct when i look at TFFM, but it looks a little funky on my hull when looking at it from the stern side. I almost feel like I have to change the contour of the end of it as indicated by the red lines in the picture below. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd love to hear them!

Thanks very much guys for the kind words. Martin, I can see how adding the second planking to your Fly took a while - especially since you did the full hull! Don, glad Dave was able to pitch in and help. I have to say that it took me a while to understand the technique - it really wasn't until I took the compass and actually did the work that I could comprehend what the Jim Robert's pamphlet was getting at. Chuck does a much better job distilling the concept in his tutorial, though he takes a different approach using tape rather than a compass. Glad my five step Cliff's Notes were helpful. Give it another try. Dave, thanks for the compliment. It's nice to hear that my log is of some help. Happy to answer any questions once you start the Pegasus, though, by the looks of your Bluenose, I can probably learn a lot more from you than the other way around