Shazmira
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Ok, quick someone tell me what I did wrong. This is my very first rat line, used clove hitches for knots and it only took me about 5 min.....from everything I have read this is supposed to be a really difficult part so what am I missing?
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Which company has the best rigging ropes?
Shazmira replied to lamarvalley's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
might be cheaper to make your own Randy, I am sure you can build a simple rope walk -
Looks pretty darn good to me, I am beginning to believe we are never happy with the way our own look. Not a bad thing, just makes us strive harder on the next one. So how come you didn't get any twist, I have been fighting that with every one.
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Mark, well you know what they say about the best laid plans, but yes, the plan was to begin the long boat while doing ratlines on the SF, that way I would have something to do while planks are bent and sanded and spiled and fit and glued and....you get the idea. Then I figured once the SF was done I could do the same thing with the Syren, start that planking stuff that takes so much time, and while waiting for glue to dry keep moving forward with the longboat. I have decided it is in my best interest to have 2 builds going at once, then there will never be a dull day. Right now I am actually looking forward to starting rat lines...I am sick of wrapping shroud lines, lanyards, and deadeyes and crave something...anything different to do just for a change of pace!
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Okay, ok, a pic or two. So sorry I have kept you all silent for so long This is where she sits. 9 more shroud lines to wrap, 8 to put lanyards on. Today the fed ex truck showed up I have been waiting for ME to send me the missing parts from the longboat kit, and at last they are here!! So as soon as those last 9 shroud lines are complete...it is on to this Once SF is done...then Sjors, then I can do this In the meantime, just because Sjors asked me to I opened her up today and breathed deeply the aroma of new wood
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LOL Sam, look great to me! Garden is all in, now back to building!!
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LOL Randy. Yes, the rigging instructions are a bit vague; especially, for us first time builders. However, compared to other parts of the instructions they are much, much, better. I know I had to post questions on my log that members very graciously answered for me. Knowing what I know now, when I read the AL instructions they now make perfect sense. Perhaps if you and I had begun with a simpler AL kit instead of one considered intermediate, the beginner instructions might have been more detailed. I for one will never know the answer to the question as I have no intention of of going backwards
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Wow, I never realized how spectacular that would look lit up! Color me impressed Adrieke, that so very much brings it to life!
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I think you can work around it just fine Randy, it will just take a little finesse, and from everything I see you can handle that just fine.
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Hey, some of us actually like Spam I can't eat a hamburger, but I can eat fried spam sandwiches and drink beer
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Randy the only issue I see there is that your nests might be a tad too high, and they will interfere with your shroud lines that attach just below that "cap" thing on the mast. When I say interfere I mean only in that it will make it more difficult for you to wrap your shroud lines in the proper position on the mast and get the lines served. But, knowing you, you will find a work around for this anyway . Your work is top notch Randy
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John, thank you for showing me that even a pro such as yourself can make a mistake, and recover from it. I am fighting with my own shroud lines atm, think they are winning at the moment! But you give me hope that persistence and patience will pay off.
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Enjoy the great outdoors Andy!
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Thanks Mark, I will try that on the next set tonight!!
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Ferit, beautiful build. I am impressed with your modifications and improvements. I am especially impressed with your ability to create, clean, straight edges on everything. It is all coming together very nicely!!
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Randy, that is beginning to look like something. I think you will be very happy with the result!
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Grant, I followed perfectly. I thought that too after the first ones I did that I had that problem. This time when I replaced everything I took special care to reeve all the holes first but still had the problem on 2 of the 5. Perhaps when tightening I am still pulling too much, and need to tighten in smaller increments. I will work on the next set and see if they end up any better. Randy, there is something to be said for your twist idea. I think if I had put in proper chainplates, instead of just using wire and twisting it like the kit says I might have a better result. If you twisted yours as well you will soon see what I mean. the lower deadeyes sit nice and square when first nailed in place, but as soon as you add the lanyard, then of course the entire line assembly wants to twist in the direction of your chainplate twist. I have had to use CA and brute force to keep the lower deadeyes facing the correct direction. Oh well, live and learn and apply that knowledge in the future
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Looking good Sjors, a little putty and no one but you will ever know!
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Alright, so it has been slow going the last few days. I took the weekend off, then Monday decided I was completely unhappy with my shroud lines to date so I took everything down and started over. I have only had a couple hours to work on the build this this week...still finishing up work (yea, tomorrow is my last day for 2 1/2 weeks)...then when I get home I have been working on getting the garden in and flowers put in for the season. Had to spend most of my time building planting boxes as I don't have a rototiller to till up a large garden area. But i am happy with my containers and they will hold everything this year. Only putting out tomatoes, jalapenos, cucumbers, cantaloupe, strawberries, and radishes. Next year, hopefully much more! so the build...I was happy originally with the wrapping (woolding?) to secure the shroud line to the deadeye, but when the lanyard got wrapped too I felt it looked to thick and clumpy. I saw some pics that showed it wrapped in three places above the dead eye, so I did that this time. I feel it looks cleaner and neater this way. Note that all my holes in the deadeyes are where they are supposed to be at this stage. So this is what it looks like after the lanyard is attached. Much better than before, but still leaves a lot to be desired. My hope is that as I do the next 25 of these I will improve. Also note that somehow, a couple of those deadeyes twisted on me and the single hole is not where it should be any longer. I gave up on that for this bunch. Still trying to figure out how to keep it from doing that on the next ones. Maybe I am putting too much tension on things.... Anyway, this is where things stand for now...25 more lanyards and shroud lines to go Yes, I know, things are fuzzy...I have beeswax on, but have not yet used the stuff Andy talked about on the lines. I am hoping that will improve the looks of things, that and some dusting! Wow, the camera shows every speck
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Sam, WOW, very clean crisp work. I am duly impressed! I do love the contrasting color of the wood as well. Hope you start feeling better soon
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Andy, try wood conditioner on the toothpick, I am told it keeps the blotchiness away when adding stain
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Hmmm...since we are going there, you forgot a comma between brilliance and which, and Yankee should be capitalized. Sorry, Wayne I couldn't resist And no, no, no, please do not inundate me with a plethora of scathing remarks...I am only kidding!!!! I come here to escape from grammar rules NOT enforce them.
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Ok, I am back from my little break, decided during that time that I am going to tear out the 2 sets of shroud lines I have done and start them over. I am NOT happy with the serving, or the section above the deadeye. It looks okay until I add the excess lanyard rope. Probably won't have any updates for a few days, sorry Sjors, but while I was back home I picked up all my bedding and garden plants, so I know the next couple nights at least will be spent getting my garden in and the flower pots filled with blooms.
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Eric, either way has advantages and drawbacks. Yes, it is a bit easier to leave masts unassembled, then you can do your stays and shroud lines, get them all "served" up and just hook them over the top of your lower mast pole...drawback, putting the rest of the mast together and keeping it all straight and alligned correctly when the bottom portion is immoveable. If you assemble the entire mast first it is easier to keep everything aligned and straight...drawback, tighter quarters for fat fingers when serving the shroud lines around the top of the lower mast. Either way works.
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