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Topmast stay rigging on the Cutter Cheerful.
davyboy replied to davyboy's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Hi Gregory, Thank you for posting that drawing. My plans were bought from Chuck back in 2015 and do not have the amendment you show which is of course a revision. I could not understand why no means of applying tension to the Topmast stay was shown on my plans. My problem is solved. Once again thank you. Kind regards, Dave -
Topmast stay rigging on the Cutter Cheerful.
davyboy replied to davyboy's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Hi Gregory, Thank you for your reply. My Plan #2 (for the standing rigging) distinctly shows the topmast stay fitted to the Topmast as would be normal,no block nor tackle is shown. Yes,this plan shows the Topmast Backstays are attached to a tackle,perhaps you could be mixing the two up or you have a different plan to me. Plan #3 (for the running rigging) only shows 2 blocks on the Topmast ,these are for the Topsail yard lifts. The list on this plan also quotes only the rope size for the Topmast stay,no mention of blocks nor rope for a tackle for this stay. Kind regards, Dave -
Hi all, I am currently building Chucks' Cheerful and have a question about the rigging of this stay. The plans show it directly attached to the Bowsprit. It's well known that hemp rope was prone to stretching so it is my intention to run it through the centre sheave of a treble block (the other sheaves are for the Topsail braces) either to a tackle or thimbles and a lanyard. Also,the Bowsprit has 3 fid holes which tells me that it could/would be set at different lengths according to sailing requirements. I'm sure that the Bosun and Captain would not be happy with a Topmast stay flapping about in the breeze when the Bowsprit was "run in" so to speak. Just doesn't sound right to me. I've never seen a rigging plan that does not show some means of tensioning stays whether it's with hearts,deadeyes,a tackle or thimbles/lanyard. I did mention this to Chuck but he just said that's how it's shown on the original model. It's possible of course that the builder of the original model got it wrong but that's just my thought on it. Any comments will be gratefully received Dave
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Hi Christos, That is called a knight. It was used for raising or lowering the lower fore,main and mizzen lateen yards in conjunction with a rams head block. The tie started near the yard centre went over a groove or sometimes a sheave in the cap down through a hole in the rams head block then back up through the sheave or over the groove on the other side of the cap and down to the yard on that side. This should be shown on your rigging plans of which I assume is of a French ship. That is how they did it. Can't see from your pic but I'm pretty sure there will be one abaft your main and mizzen masts also. Hope this helps. Dave
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Hi Michael, That is almost certainly a Chinese knock off of the Proxxon KT 70. Looks almost identical even down to the colour,doubtful if it's anywhere near the same quality. Dave
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Hi, I can't say for certain but I believe that with the introduction of the long driver boom the stern ensign staff was not fitted when the ship was at sea,only in port. As was I believe the jackstaff on the bowsprit. The photo's show apart from the sloop a loose footed gaff sail on all the others,some still having a Lateen yard fitted. No problem with a stern ensign staff then. I suspect by looking at the angle of the pic that the sloops' driver boom was short enough to pass inside the ensign staff. Of course,it would be easy to transfer the gaff ensign halliard to the opposite side if or when required. Unfortunately I'm not at home just now so can't check in my Books. Dave
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Mike. Middling means if 50ft of brail rope is req'd on one side you use a 100ft rope fold it in two and sieze it to the cringle at the fold. Yes there is a block on each side of the yard and both sides would be hauled on simultaneously. Methinks the eyelets are a kit invention,nothing about eyelets for brails in any of the books I have. Boltropes and cringles are much stronger than sail canvas. Dave
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Matching wood types
davyboy replied to ctclock's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Hi Jeremy, If you're looking for wood you could try the following German wood suppliers :- www.massiv-holz-werkstatt.de www.arkowood.de I've bought wood from the top one,excellent range,quality wood and service. A bit closer than the U.S. to Cape Town. No connection to that business BTW. Regards, Dave P.S. forgot to mention both supply strips and planks -
Hi Folded Frog, Jackstays would not have been in use on the HMS Agamemnon 1781. They were not introduced on English warships until post 1810 according to Lees' Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War. You'll have to bend the sails to the yards. Dave
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Pete, I agree with both John and JCF's posts. Additionally to Lees,R.C. Anderson in both his books also gives a Parrel as having 2 rows of trucks. What is shown in your photo looks like a bit of modellers "inaccurate fancy work"to me. BTW,the HMS Royal William was a 1692 rebuild of the HMS Prince of 1670. There were only 2 ships given this name,the second being launched in 1833. Regards, Dave
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Hi Terry,I'm pretty sure there is not a model kit of this ship. She was a Leda class 38 gun Frigate launched in Bombay in 1817. I would imagine her plans are available from the N.M.M / Royal Museum Greenwich. I guess you were watching "Flog it" on BBC 2 earlier today Dave
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Charlie,the "strange ring" would normally be for the gun breeching rope. Dave
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Hi Mike, That is a beautiful Jewelry box. I bet your Admiral is very happy,lots of "brownie points" there for certain Dave
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davyboy replied to fmartins's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
Hi fmartins, The Construction and Fitting of the Sailing man of War 1650-1850 by Peter Goodwin. If you're interested there are 14 copies on offer at the moment by Abe Books starting at just under $50 US. Covers English Warships. Dave -
location of stud sails (stuns'l) when stowed
davyboy replied to timboat's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Hi Timboat, Andersons' 17th Century Rigging is IMO somewhat better than his Rigging of Ships in the days of the Spritsail Topmast. Larger line drawings and a foldout rigging plan of the St George 96 guns of 1701. Lees' Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War has a belaying plan for a 20 gun ship of circa 1719 in section 4. Also has 2 pages of text appertaining to this plan. May be of some help to you. Dave -
FWIW,what I do is cheat by passing the line through the hole for the belaying pin then push the pin in. This allows you to adjust any later line slackness by removing the pin,retensioning the line,replacing the pin then belaying after finishing work in that area. No one can see this as it will be covered by the rope hank anyway. Just my tuppence worth. Dave
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HMS Snake by drtrap - Caldercraft
davyboy replied to drtrap's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
Hi Stergios, No idea really but I would definitely use 1mm brass wire,1,5mm is much too large in my opinion. I used the 1mm on my Cruiser,looks ok. Dave -
Is there any reason why the chase guns could not be reloaded by the guncrew standing on the deck ? The bulwark is only about 3'9" high,shortened breeching allowing perhaps 6" to 9" recoil would suffice as the muzzle is only around 15" from the hull when fully run out anyway. No H & S 200 years ago This is just a thought but I have seen a drawing by I think Van de Veldt of similar being done on a much larger ship. Dave
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