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Last information Fred gave dates back a full 12 months. He was negotiating with a publisher. Planning was that Wasa II should become a Wasa II-a, to be published last autumn, and a Wasa II-b, published later. Fred never replied to enquiries made in september last year.... Jan
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Dutch yacht by henry x - RESTORATION
amateur replied to henry x's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
The model looks like it is build to a very old kit: Amat's 'Stadt von Bremen' at least, the side lleries, and the sternfittings do suggest so. Jan -
Bit late to join the party, but hope you'll still allow me in. stupid question perhaps, but what are these circular ridges on top of the hangar roof? Jan
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Google is your best friiend: Fear Of Missing Out (mind you, this kit is probably sold out when I have time to build it. I think it is rather 'stupid strategy': look at the tremendous increase in the quality of kits. Why should you build a kit that is lagging decades behind in term of quality....? Kind of: Sorry, have to build 6 Aeropicolla kits, and 4 Billings before I can turn my attention to the latest Syren or Vanguard. Jan
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Santa Maria German model
amateur replied to Lizjames's topic in NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD - News & Information
Or to sum it up: age : it was probably in its first decade when your dad bought it; value: none, that it: financially; historival accuracy: none; maker: unknown, there were several 'factories' around in Germany in the sixties. No names known to me, certainly not individual builders. On the plus-side: it is quite clean, relatively undamaged, and still a nice mantle-piece decoration. Jan -
The pinace isbased on a Dutch textbook: Nicolaes Witsen, Aeloude Scheepsbouw and bestier, printed in 1671. (Partly ranslated and annotaed by Ab Hoving in the book you mention in your post (Witsen and shipbuilding in the Dutch Golden age) The 'fun' of all these recontructions is that inthose years, no drawn plans plans were used, but contracts in which the main dimensions are stated. It was up to thebuilder to translate such a contract into a 3D object. Witsen tries to present a description of how all the various parts and measures relate to each other, thus being able to make a reconstruction. However, Witsen was a layman, and it is/was by no means clear that what he describes were general rules, or just what he picked up in communicatimg with one ormore shipbuilders in his own town (Amsterdam). There is a second Dutch ext (written by Van Ijk, in roughly the same period.). That text is written by a shipbuilder. Problem of that text is that he often refers to sentences like 'there are various ways ro do so, it is up to builders discretion'. Probably far betterdescribing daily prectice, but not very helpful for readers 400 years later, as they can't ask the shipbuilder what his preferred way is/was. That is why you see more Witsen-based reconstructions than Van Ijk based ones. Jan
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Can you identify this feature? 19th century 1st Rates
amateur replied to Martocticvs's topic in Nautical/Naval History
When did the english navy start using mooring buoys instead of anchoring? Jan [edit: after posting, I read the whole thread, and I saw I had the same thought over a year ago. Not a very original thinker, but well, at least I'm consistent ) -
It is not on the NMM-drawings of the planking. At least, not on the outside planking. It is present on the inside. https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/83709.html (at least, Ithink I have the correct ship....) Jan
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Hull modeling with Blender
amateur replied to SardonicMeow's topic in CAD and 3D Modelling/Drafting Plans with Software
As far as I can see, you two guys seem to misunderstand each other. you can imagine three planes through the hull the flat ones (paralellel to the water): the intersection of those planes gives the set of waterlines (marked F!G H and I in the drawing of that little tug) the standing ones, from the left to the rightside of the hull: theintersection gives the stationlines ("frames") ( marked 0.5, 1, ..., 10 in the tug-plan) the third option is the set standing parallel to the keel, from front to back, marked W, X,Y Z in the tug plan gives a set of lines known as buttock lines. once you have the distance between the planes and the correponding i es, you can recreate the other two sets from the third one. Also, if the drawing is reasonably precise, your hull will match al three sets of lines when constructed from any of these. In otherwords: once constructed feom the frames, there is no need to additionally match the hull to the waterlines or the buttock lines. Jan -
Billing Boats kit #450. Jan
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New To Building Ships Help and advice needed
amateur replied to Richard O's topic in New member Introductions
Vanguard is top, but you could also consider one of the models Chris Watton designed before he started off as a one-man company. Those are models of larger ship (don't know whether that fits your cupboard): amati's victory models range. Something like pegasus or fly would also be a nice model Jan -
I was wondering the small black triangle.... I guess that you will figure out that not only each mast. But essentially each yard has the same rigging. lifts, braces, clew-lines, sheets (four of the major ropes per sail) ate a rather repetitive system. Once you figured that out for one yard, the others bevome infinitively easier Jan
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Good heavens, I thought Corels rigging diagrams of mybuild were a kind of jigsaw-puzzle, but this one is equally, if not more, difficult. But I guess that it is what youthink it is: numbers in circles refer to the parts-list, squares to the belaying points. I would have expected also a number of squares referring to the pin-racks after the masts, as some of the ropes are usually taken along the mast to a belaying point near the mast (especialy the tackles that hold the spars and yards) Jan
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Hi Dave, as you say: belaying pins are for the running gear, but part of the standing rigging is also set up with tackles, of which therunning end is going somewhere. Sometimes to the rope it tensions (likethe lanyards that are fixedto the shroulds), sometimes to a clamp orknight next to the tackle. Bear in mind that some kits are rather short on belaying points (rope and belaying pins being usually massively oversized), resulting in the nedd for creative solutions. Also not all kits are historically correct with respect to rigging, also resulting in creative solutions on behalf of the kitmakers. If you want specific feedback: give us the drawing to chew on Jan
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Getting a bit off-topic gentleman? Jan
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I checked Marquardt, and he does not name the rigs of ships from regions other than the northern European regions. He labels the shiptypes, not the rigs. I don't know how it is in Turkey, but in the Netherlands, you can sort of classify the shiptypes, but there are many 'in betweens', as ships were always build by a specific builder for a specific buyer. Ie: it was not type x that was agreed upon but a ship 'like the one you build for my neighbor, but I would liketo have it slightly different'. I do very much like the (for a Dutchman) rather excentric rigs, and sometimes completely different ways of sailhandling that you see in the mediterranean ships. Jan
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No-one had the ability, but as you read the political discussions on the naval program that were held here in the 20-ties, you come across rather naive views with respect to the number of ships needed, and the armament they should have in order to scare away anyone. In the twenties, the Dutch navy showed that a core fleet of at least six cruisers was needed to be able to do their duties both in the North see and the Indies, politcs decided that three would also do. There were even parties that voted in favour of dismantling the navy (like in: we have seen the horrors of the great war, let us stop fighting and dismantle navy and army). The planned battleship was discarded, the program of threenew. Ruisers was alterded into: overhaul of java and sumatra, building of De Ruyter. Navy showed that being able to at least give some damage to other ships, long range, 18 inch guns were the thing to buy, politics decided that the smaller guns would equally do (and those were quitea lot cheaper). My point not being that the Dutch/alliedforces could have been defeated, or that the sailors were nohero's. Far from that. My point being that those responsible made decisions that were questionable, not only in hindsight, but even at the time they were made, resulting in a navy (and army) that was seriously underequipped. Jan
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The problem is that the naming conventions I know, is not realy compatible with these mediterranean ships.... I don't think 1 is qualifying as a schooner, as both sails between the masts are stay-sails, and a two-masted schooned has gaff-sails on both masts. I have a book by Marquardt, he also covers these type of ships. Will have a look tomorrow. Jan
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Believe it or not, but today, exactly (almost :)) 20 years to the day I started, the hull is finally closed. All gunport lids have been installed. now there remains the lanterns, four anchors and their cables, and two anchor buoys. Souns as a minor job, but at my present pace, who knows Jan
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Yes, thanks, I know that one. Not a poster, but a very regular visitor. I am posting my cardboard also on a German forum. Jan
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I guess you read the stories Piet wrote in his log on the Java. Those guys did what thay could. It’s a pity that the government here in the Netherlands seriously thought that DeRuyter /Tromp were capable of what they were sent out to do: scare away the Japanese. For that purpose they were too little and to lightly armed. Bravery compensated part of that, but not all. Jan
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And seven months already since the last update. I am spreading over too many projects (and work ) Today I worked on the cranes: encountered a small problem: the card used in the laser-detail set becomes a bit soft when used with waterbased glue.... Most boats in their cradles now: and a very late reply to Lou: that is not completely true: De Ruyter was not only flagship bei g the newest ship present, but she was (by far) the heaviest armed ship the Dutch navy had available at that period. And yes, I have done quite a number of side projects over the last months, so I am still busy cardbuilding (but not all ship) (Wedel, papershipwright, work in progress) Steam-loco (Alfred Pirling) Rode zee (veritas) patrol-boat (Scaldis) Unimog-truck (download at Fentens card models) and a singing bird (johan Scherft, paid download) Been rather productive over the last months Jan
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Depends a bit on what you want to build..... mastini, shipmodelling simplifeid is a nice starter. Mainly based on 'how to', not as reference of 'how it was done in the original' mondfeld, historic shipmodelling (not really a 'how to' and not without flaws, but nice as reference) Underhill is nice as intermediate, but a bit outdated on the materials and tools. You may also need (depending on you preference for 'historically correct') books on the actual ship you are building. Jan
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