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I had noticed that little concern...methinks the guy priming the gun would prefer to have that slow match some distance away! Actually used it just to show the low height of the gunport sill. i think Gary also hit the nail on the head - no single size or set of dimensions would be correct all the time. The size of the cannon, the design and era of the vessel, and the nuances of ship builders would all play into the size of the port.
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Hello, Adam - so sorry to hear about the family losses - please accept my sincere condolences! Congratulations on going back to school - what degree are you pursuing? Nice to see you back at the HL - it is a fun build and as you know from Sarah's log there is a lot you can do to improve on her. Take your time and have fun!
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Here is a drawing from the Navy Heritage Command website. http://www.history.navy.mil/library/online/consitutiongundeck.htm Caption: A 24-pounder gun in the period of the Revolution and the War of 1812. The gun is in its recoil position for loading, and the man to the left is keeping a strain on the train tackle to hold the ponderous weapon in place while the man at the muzzle rams the load home. The man at the breech is piercing the powder cartridge with a priming wire before inserting the priming tube: in his left hand is a linstock, a wooden staff holding a piece of burning slowmatch. When the gun is ready to fire, the two side tackles will be used to run it out. The numbers in the drawing identify parts of the gun and its outfit.
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While far from an expert opinion, it would seem that the size of a gunport is somewhat a function of the size of the cannon to be fired. The ship shown here is not a true warship but rather a modern adaptation that can fill several roles. The small cannon carried are for show - would be extremely un-stable if it were carrying a 24 pounder. As a couple of points of reference, the gunports on the US Frigate Constitution for a 24 pounder are about 1 meter x 1 meter, and those on the HMS Victory are about Main deck: 750mm x 750 mm, Second deck: 862.5 mm wide, 750 mm vertical, and Lower deck: 937.5 mm wide and 862.5 vertical.
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The two ships look wicked sweet that way - nice!!!!!
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Still plugging along! Re-doing the catheads - the first attempt just didn't quite look right. Here is the first attempt from back in May. Too square, doesn't really look right. In progress First results Decided to try and do them out of single pieces of stock, so using some left over from the cabin structure to carve them out. Some more sanding and shaping then need to drill the openings for the fake sheaves and re-rig them for the anchor.
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Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops of the Royal Navy
trippwj replied to molasses's topic in Nautical/Naval History
I wonder if perhaps James was referring to the 1810 HMS Primrose. Winfield shows it as being 108 feet, designed by Henry Peake (as opposed to the others in the Cruizer class based on a design by Sir Wm. Rule, including the 1807 Primrose that was lost in 1808). Given James was referring to events in the 1812-1814 timeframe, would make sense to be referring to the second Primrose not the one that was lost years previous to the war. -
Not only a two-decker, but made out of brick! "Samuel Bowler had a large number of children so he added on to the outhouse structure," reports Jill Bowers. Bowler was her great-great-great uncle. "Not only does the house boast a 'five-holer' but also a skyway connecting the upstairs of the outhouse to the house proper." "The upstairs facilities are situated a little further back so that the 'materials' released from the second floor fall behind the wall of the first floor." http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/29012
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John - having some spare time last evening (no World Series game to watch) I did some interweb crawling pursuing all i could learn about the elusive half moon. The end result - probably more myth than reality. When the proverbial outhouse was most in use, it tended to be unisex - everyone used it. Space was at a premium to dig the pits and place the shacks, not too mention the cost to a family of building the shelter, so not many separate facilities. The Half Moon tends to be a relatively modern addition (along with the 2 story outhouse, but that's a different story altogether). On your ship, I would leave a small air vent near the upper part of the side walls (also allows a bit of sunlight to enter) but definitely no moons (at least on the door - Augie would like one included, though, based on his response above). Maybe a moose shaped carving in the side walls?
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Both looks really nice, Pete. Neat comparison!
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Mobbsie - what they said! Can I send you my HL so you can do the ships boats on her? Hope ur feeling better, mate.
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What a fantastic eagle project! The result is fantastic! It is probable that the placard for the carriage is not the manufacturer of the gun itself. i came across this reference from Navy ordnance activities. World war, 1917-1918 available for download at https://archive.org/details/navyordnanceact00ordngoog The Goss Printing Press Co., had total contracts for two hundred 4-inch and one hundred 6-inch mounts. Here again the equipment and organization were such as to insure deliveries of satisfactory materials. At one time during the life of the 4-inch contract this company was having trouble in the manufacture of sights. An ap- peal was made to the bureau for assistance, and it was possible to arrange for Mr. Bunback of the gun factory to take temporary em- ployment with the company. Through his efforts and the naturally effective organization of this company the sight troubles were soon eliminated. The 6-inch contract was given to this company under rather unusual conditions. There were at the gun factory about fifty 6-inch 50-caliber broadside guns which were being held in reserve in accordance with bureau policy to replace guns in service when it became necessary to reline them. There were, however, no mounts for these guns, and the guns were badly needed in service for the arming of transports. It was therefore decided to place a contract for one hundred 6-inch 53-caliber mounts which would be needed later on for the broadside batteries of battle cruisers and for 50 additional slides which could be used to mount the 6-inch 50- caliber guns in the 6-inch 53-caliber mount. This contract after com- petitive bids was awarded to the Goss Printing Press Co. Need to do a bit more digging in this reference to figure out who manufactured the 4 inch gun that Goss manufactured the mounts and sites for.
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Them thar sheaves look very realistic, Augie. Nice work on them - and look forward to the next teenise fiddly bit!
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It is, always, difficult to find the right words to share upon such a loss. Please know, Buck, that our thoughts and prayers for you and your family are heartfelt and sincere.
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Nice work on the windlass, John. Glad you made it home safely - from all indications it was a great journey!
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I am at a loss for further superlatives, Tony, so will, in the interest of brevity and, quite frankly, in a condition akin to that which one experiences upon the completion of the opening movement of a symphony, can but say "Bravo"!
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Each step is better than the previous one, Sjors. What a beauty (the ship, not the bus :P )
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Well done, sir. well done! That is one BIG ship!!!!!
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Looks really nice, Robbyn. The metal work came out well. Nice idea on the mast step!
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There is a signature! guess I ought to view pictures on the computer instead of my phone. The broom handle and swim noodle looked like a rolling pin on my phone! Planking is looking very nice.
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Dang - and here we thought we were sounding much more professional! Yeah, it's a nail file/emery board. My missus also donated some old makeup brushes (those really fine soft bristled ones) for use in dusting the builds. Ummm, don't say anything, to her, please. I don't think she knows she donated them yet.......
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