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Frolick and Robin - I do not have a copy but was able to locate the Table of Contents on the Ancre website at http://www.ancre.fr/Product.aspx?ID=3735245&L=EN Here is the TOC after Google Translate did it's thing. FOREWORD ...... 5 TO OUR READERS ...... 7-8 LOUIS XV Ship three bridges - 1700 (32 photos) ......... 10-31 MINERVA World Galley - 1746 (27 photos) ......... 32-53 MONKEY Xebeck 20 guns - 1762 (24 photos) ...................... 54-71 The EGYPTIAN Frigate 24-1798 (20 photos) ............................ 72-87 FAME Frigate 18-1806 (30 photos) ........................... 88-107 THE SWAN Brick 16-1806 (17 photos) ............................ 108-123 NORMAN Flute 800 tons - 1811 (29photos) .................... 124-145 THE STEP-HEN Frigate 60 guns - 1822 (37 photos) ............ 146-169 THE TOULONNAISE Schooner six carronades - 1823 (18 photos) ................ 170-183 THE FLOOR Ship of 100 - 1824 (31 photos) ........................ 184-207 The ALCESTE Frigate of 52 guns - 1828 (26 photos) ............. 208-227 THE CUTTER 14 carronades 12-1830 (20 photos) ..................... 228-241 THE VALMY Ship of 120 - 1836 (42 photos) ....................... 242-273 GLOSSARY ................................................. 274 to 279 TECHNICAL NOTES ........................................ 280-286 And here is the original French version AVANT PROPOS ......5A NOS LECTEURS ......7 à 8 LE LOUIS XV Vaisseau trois-ponts - 1700 (32 photos) ......... 10 à 31 LA MINERVE Le monde des Galères - 1746 (27 photos) ......... 32 à 53 LE SINGE Chebec de 20 canons - 1762 (24 photos)...................... 54 à 71 L’EGYPTIENNE Frégate de 24 - 1798 (20 photos) ............................ 72 à 87 LA RENOMMÉE Frégate de 18 - 1806 (30 photos) ........................... 88 à 107 LE CYGNE Brick de 16 - 1806 (17 photos) ............................ 108 à 123 LA NORMANDE Flûte de 800 tonneaux - 1811 (29photos).................... 124 à 145 LA BELLE-POULE Frégate de 60 bouches à feu - 1822 (37 photos)............ 146 à 169 LA TOULONNAISE Goélette de 6 caronades - 1823 (18 photos)................ 170 à 183 LE TAGE Vaisseau de 100 - 1824 (31 photos) ........................ 184 à 207 L’ALCESTE Frégate de 52 bouches à feu - 1828 (26 photos)............. 208 à 227 LE COTRE 14 caronades de 12 - 1830 (20 photos) ..................... 228 à 241 LE VALMY Vaisseau de 120 - 1836 (42 photos) ....................... 242 à 273 GLOSSAIRE................................................. 274 à 279 NOTICES TECHNIQUES........................................ 280 à 286
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Looking good, Mobbsie. Nice job on that pinnace. Hey - 3 posts left til you get that next promotion - make them good ones!
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Wow - impressive workmanship, Augie - looking very good! I did have to look up that thar high falutin word you used...and used quite appropriately, might I add! noun (plural armamentaria), a collection of resources available or utilized for an undertaking or field of activity
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Suggestions for an admiralty style model please
trippwj replied to Shazmira's topic in Wood ship model kits
Robbyn - You could, should you be so inclined, build nearly any sailing ship kit as an Admiralty Style - if you intend to leave parts of the hull open and show framing, you would need to make some adjustments to the kit (see the Confederacy model as an example), As you finish the hull, reduce the rigging - either just stub masts or similar - so that the eye of the viewer is drawn to the lines and details of the hull rather than the rigging. The Confederacy is specifically designed as an Admiralty Style kit, but is not the only one out there if you wanted to buy another kit rather than adapt one of your current ones. You might consider some of the kits offered by Dave at The Lumberyard - I think most of these are designed as admiralty style kits. http://www.dlumberyard.com/shipkits.html -
Back to Jim's initial point, a ship/vessel that doesn't have the complex rigging or is not designed to include ratlines is no less an achievement than one that is designed with rigging and billions of tiny knots. One need only look at Gene Bodnar's Cairo or Popeye's Lobsie twins to get a feel for the level of effort and skill required! Each of these genres of ship brings unique challenges and requires dedication and effort to complete. I have a great deal of respect for those who have tackled the old sailing vessels with rigging and so on - the patience and care required is amazing (hence my currently un-finished build) - the learning curve is challenging me each step!). At the same time, I see the amazing craftsmanship put into the non-masted ships and admire that builder as well. For example, take a look at the Confederacy or the new Essex kit - notice something missing? Both are an opportunity to build one of those beautiful sailing ships without the potentially build-ending addition of rigging and so on. The hulls themselves are beautiful - and a build to be proud of!
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It may be a bit ambitious depending upon your experience with wood, but with patience, and a certain tolerance for frustration, it would certainly be build-able! It appears to have some very sweet sweeping lines and would be a gorgeous model when finished, though!
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Just a quick non-progress update. i have removed all of the offending parts (basically, the jibboom, forestays, etc - pretty much all the rigging forward of the fore mast). My plan was to resume work by making a new jibboom, but have put that on hold. Due to circumstances totally of my own foolishness, I have two fingers on my right hand (ring and pinky finger) that are currently less than effective. need to give them a few days to heal then will ease back into it (and thanks, Colorado, for the encouragement - I sincerely appreciate it!).
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Jay - The plans are available for purchase. You can start here http://www.mysticseaport.org/research/collections/ships-plans/ to research the collection (100,000+ naval architectural drawings, from 1827-2004 [bulk 1890-1970]) and then follow the different links for more information.
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Adam - While those two argue over who gets to ask for more pictures, please accept my kindest regards and acknowledgment of a nice bit of progress. Ye Olde Ship Mayflower is taking form nicely, and shows every indication of that her shipwright is providing her with appropriate attention and care. Nicely done, Sir - looks very good! p.s. More pictures are always appreciated as well, but not a necessity for some of us....
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Nice work, Augie. Taking copious notes - and wishing I could do half as well on the simple ones I am building!
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Hello, dunolde. Check out the Phantom logs (there are several) - they are a similar Model Shipways solid hull. Skerryamp, gulfmedic and flounderfilet (among several others) have some pretty good logs around the hull carving and shaping. Craigb has a very nice tutorial style for his build. There are also several other solid hull models being built. As Mark suggested, a specific question would be helpful!
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Good morning, Mick. Still room here to follow along? This is a very interesting (and under represented) type of vessel - I brought some beverages...
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You're right - I never would have guessed! Look forward to the next updates (even without pictures, though "you know who" might be a tad testy!). I can only imagine the size of this beastie once you have her fully rigged with stuns'ls...are you contemplating an addition to the house perhaps? :D :P
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Those are very nice, Tom. Thanks for sharing the mini-tutorial! I think I need to add that lathe to my wish list!
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It really is odd - I have a set of 1940 model plans drawn by H. W. Potter (never heard of the gent before - have any of you?) for the Bluenose which doesn't show it. The 1996 Model Shipways plans are as Bob indicated - an "unknown object" - added no doubt based on the above photo. The object to port and aft of the cabin may be a scuttle; or, more likely, a storage tub for the main sheet hauling tackle. Cut it from sheet stock and round the top edge.
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Wow, Ferit - that looks like it was an amazing vacation! Thank you for sharing these pictures with those of us who can only dream of such a trip!
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Very nice work on the various fiddly pieces of string! Now about those new clothes....
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