Chuck

Thanks guys....If you look closely the molding and hance has four flutes or three etched grooves. This is what would normally be used on a molding but I may run a test with just two etched grooves to see how it looks. This really pushes the limits with the laser cutter because the grooves are so tiny and not etched very deeply. I think it looks a bit busy and maybe a simpler profile would look even better. But it could just be that i have been staring at these for eight hours and am losing my mind. luckily these wont be needed for while so I can do more testing. This is certainly a benefit as a designer to own your laser cutter. I couldnt imagine this kind of subtle testing and tweaking if I had to send these out for cutting each time.

Thanks...by the way, the molding in the last photo is just 3/32 wide and 1/32" thick. The etched grooves vary both in width and depth to simulate that profile. This was rather difficult and required about eight hours of testing, cutting and retesting. The etched grooves on the volutes had to match as they turned into the molding and they have the added difficulty of narrowing even more until they reached the "button". It was quite the challenge. Here is an earlier test run....I must have made about 60 of these tweaking it each time. Boxwood is on top....cedar is below it. I still have to reduce the volute by about 3%. It just a hair too big.

I finished the wales and black strake on both sides and painted them black. But I still had to add the anchor lining. Rather than use individual boards I just laser cut the shape from some 1/32" sheet. This will cover the wales but then an additional strip of thicker wood must placed on top of this to cover the black strake. They are all flush outboard but the strip on top of the black strake for the lining remains bright. The 1/32" sheet for the lining was gradually sanded thinner as it worked down towards the bottom of the wales. Now before I start planking below the wales, I have a few things to do first. One of them is to fair inboard. This is not a fun task and it will make a mess. But I want to get it out of the way now so all of the dust falls through the hull rather than just fall into one that is fully planked. One thing I notice when folks build my kits (or any kit for that matter) is how they fair inboard. They never quite know how thick to make the bulwarks. In most cases they are left way too wide which makes the entire model look clumsy and kit-like. To help with this on the Winnie, I designed a "fairing cap" that will be 3/16" wide. This needs to be placed on the top of the sheer. Then when I start fairing inboard I will be better able to maintain that 3/16" measurement consistently for the bulwarks. Some portions of this "fairing cap" were laser cut like the area above the hances and at the bow. For the remainder a 3/16" x 1/16" strip was used. See below. NOTE!!!! IMPORTANT NOTE!!!! DO NOT place the 3/16" x 1/16" fairing cap in the waste. It is only to be used on the hance pieces and along the quarter deck. AND in addition......along the forecastle at the bow. Using it along the waste which I show in the photo below will make the waist too high and screw up the placement of the molding. The top of the external planking will be the sheer along the waste and the 1/16" strip would make it too high. I made this mistake and later removed this strip along the waist. This may look odd at this point but dont worry....this "cap" will be completely covered by the fancy molding and volutes. These wont be added to much later in the project but here is a look at some prototype "scrolls" I worked on. One of the things that was troubling me was how I was going to handle these scrolls. Sure, many people can carve them and they look great. But these are difficult for most. I could have provided castings but then the profile molding would be impossible to match so it looks good. So I have been experimenting. This is what I have at this point and I think it looks pretty good. This of course means that I know have to provide all of the molding for this project along with the carved scrolls. They may not be as good as those that are hand carved or scraped, but I think they look better than most and will do the job nicely. I still have to tweak a few things. What do you guys think? By the way...the top aft scroll and molding behind it is made from boxwood. The forward scroll and molding below it were made with the same process but out of Yellow cedar. I think the results are pretty similar although the boxwood version is slightly darker. The Cedar version of the scroll was much more fragile to sand than the box version. I will have to decide which to include. There was no carving what-so-ever or scraping. The scrolls and molding were laser cut. I just sanded the sides to remove the char and rounded the sides off a bit using 420 grit sandpaper. The notches or grooves were laser etched at various depths and I just left the char in those untouched. I applied wipe on poly over them and it looks pretty good. These are just test fit against the hull to see how they look.

You should really start your own build log where folks can see photos of your progress and comment on any questions you might have. Be sure to read the topic on how to start one of your own. That is the best and easiest way . Welcome to the forum. See here... Chuck

Looks great. I am so glad you enjoyed the project. Chuck

Not yet.....I will put one together once I start production. But remember that the thread I am using is not the same. I am using a blended thread now which is made in the USA. The sizes are different. I never made a chart when I was making the stuff for the museum using the Guttemann stuff. I will check my notes though. Chuck

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I will very shortly start making some Poly/cotton blend rope. I am going to call this Syren's "Ultra Scale Rope" . It will cost the same as my other Cotton/Linen rope which I will continue to sell as well. But if one is preferred a great deal over the other I will discontinue the least favorite. Only if sales really drop off on one of them. Otherwise I will try and offer both.

Kurt...I have a bunch. You can always use mine and come pick them up when you need them. Good ones are expensive. I have a lot of them and hardly use them because I prefer to do most work by hand. Next time you come to the shop you can check them out. Chuck

Nice photo set-up. I will have to rig something up like that.

Dont forget that your large planking fan for these wide planks are uploaded here......plus everything else. I just added the flags too in case you need to make more. The downloads section for this group is now complete with everything.

That really looks good. Its coming together. Just make sure when you start gluing those planks on that the planks are very secure to each and every frame. This prevents the frames from breaking once you go to remove the centers.

Looking good.!!! Wonderful photos.

Getting there!!!! it looks really good.

Bob, One of these days you have to make the trek up to a meeting in Roseland. I know its a haul for you, but I would love to see you and the model in person. Chuck

Really looking fantastic. ☺️

Those parts really should be redrawn to fix those issues using the plans and laser cut over again. I am pretty sure that the bulkheads would fair if cut from the plans directly, but I must say that it looks impossible after seeing your photos Bob. The outside edges of the bulkheads just look like they are the wrong shape in many instances. My guess is when they were originally traced for laser cutting they were badly done. I am watching your progress but also shaking my head because I cant see how that hull can ever be faired properly without adding at least another 3/32" of meat to many of those top=timbers. Its the only way I can see getting a smooth contour to the hull outboard. And its no guarantee that it will match the plans at that point. Sorry to see that. There needs to be a new corrected "starter package" for this project sold with full sized plans.

Its OK with me....They look pretty good. I used some 320 grit sandpaper folded up to smooth things a bit. I used the fold to get in those nooks and it made a big difference. I got a bit better with each new try as I gained confidence. I am so happy to see someone try and use the carved versions they make rather than the resin castings. It will mean so much more when the model is finished.

Exactly!!! I wish that were true of most kit MFG's.

I am about half way there with more kits. Getting another wood order late next week because I wasnt happy with the quality of the 1/32" sheets of cedar I have left. There were to many imperfections/graininess for my tastes. Maybe another week to 10 days. We dont churn these out in a sweatshop so they take more time to produce. Quality control and the best materials are super important to me. Chuck

I am not sure if I posted this yet but I want to give everyone a detailed view of the model as it will ultimately appear....hopefully. Here is a link to download sheet one of the plans. I am going to shoot for launching this before it is completed so it is important that you guys see what the Frigate Winchelsea will ultimately look like. This shows the profile and stern view. Dont worry, like all of my plans, this first sheet wont contain any parts so no need to worry about pirating. Download and have a look!!! Because the image has very fine lines so a jpg like posted above is just too light. Click below for full size sheet. Winchelseaplanone.pdf

Sorry to hear that....I hope for a speedy recovery!!!

How goes the progress....looking forward to seeing you build the model. Remember to ask me any questions. Chuck

Take it easy Nic....rest up. When you are back to work you will be able to work twice as hard now!!!!! You are all fixed up.

Enjoy the project!!! Dont hesitate to ask me any questions. The rigging isnt that bad on this one.