Chuck

Looking real nice!!!

Check this out.....inspiration and help as you build the project. I have more of these and will be adding them as time permits.

Like everyone else, I cut my sheets from larger billets of wood. Below you can see one of the these "bricks" of yellow cedar lumber. It is a 2 x 6 that has been cut to 15" long segments. In that same photo you can see a very large 1/4" sheet that was cut from the side of the brick. It is pristine with no visible grain and the surface quality is beautiful which is what you want in a sheet of wood. On top of that 5 1/2" wide sheet is a 2" wide smaller sheet literally cut from the same brick shown. It was cut from the top of the brick instead. Notice the ugly grain pattern that is quite evident and if you were to get this sheet you would not be a happy camper.....BUT When I rip planking strips from a 1/4" thick sheet of wood, I dont want to use that wider sheet. The useable visible face of each plank would have the ugly side showing when you used it on your model. You would absolutely see the grain and it would probably not bend the same way......so I actually use the two inch wide boards to cut all of my planking strips from. I keep a steady supply on hand and even use wipe on poly on a portion of the "good" edge that will become the planking you see on the hull. This makes it easier to pick wood that is the same color so all of the planks will match on your hull. See the photo below which shows a portion of my 2" wide planking stock ready for milling. Whenever I cut the planking strips for a project they are cut from these 2" wide pieces rather than the really wide sheets. Its the proper way to rip planking strips. I know that most people do the math in their head and figure they will get many more strips from the wide sheet sold at Syren....BUT...it will have a really noticeable negative impact on a well-planked hull. You should buy these 2" sheets rather than get the really nice wider sheets when you need planking strips. Most may be surprised and disappointed when they get the narrower boards until of coarse they start ripping strips from them which will be pristine and beautiful as you can see below. I can get 20 strips 3/64" thick from each of these with a blade that has a .30 kerf....I hope this was helpful and insightful to those of you who might not be familiar with this or may be thinking of getting a Byrnes saw to mill your own planking strips. I will call these " Planking Sheets" for milling planking strips in my online store. So when you see in the materials list a requirement for stripwood.....buy the "planking sheets" from my store. CLICK HERE They are just $3 each. For every thickness. But remember....these are only good for ripping planking strips. For everything else you want the wider sheets instead.

Welcome to the group Tim. Look over those plans and the materials list and let me know if you have any questions.

Read this topic to find out how.

Looking really good Bob. I hope you are enjoying the project?

Almost forgot....those of you who wont be building this model entirely from scratch but want to buy the laser cut parts, you will see them in stock on my Syren store buy this weekend. Click Here to access the Winchelsea store page for any laser cut parts, carvings, cannon and other materials. These will pop up for sale as I progress with the prototype model. I am going to start by stocking the laser cut packages for the first two installments in Alaskan Yellow Cedar. I will hold off on making the Cherry versions. But if you would prefer to build it in Cherry, let me know here. Because if there are no takers, I will just concentrate on keeping the Cedar versions in stock. Production time is limited. Plywood bulkheads will take longer to stock as I am outsourcing those. I should have them in a couple of weeks. But if you own a scroll saw. Try cutting them yourself on some 1/4" ply. You will learn a lot and save a lot. Chuck

I just received word that the group is now officially open. You can go to the NRG store....click here....Once you get pay the access fee I will be notified. Then I will send you an invitation to join the downloads area. You will see this in your "notifications" at the top of the screen. Just click on it to gain access. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy modelling!!!! and DONT FORGET TO READ THE COPYRIGHT AGREEMENT. By joining the group you agree to abide by the rules set up for the use policy of the plans.

I just received word that the group is now officially open. To get access one must go to the NRG Store and supply your Model Ship World (MSW) user name and proceed to pay the $15 access charge. Upon receipt of the payment the NRG Office will notify Chuck to grant access to you. Chuck will permit access by sending you an invitation to the private downloads area. Please allow a few days as Chuck is the only one able to provide access. You will see your invitation in the notifications area at the top of the screen. Its the same place that notifies you if there are replies to topics you are following etc. Once you click on your invitation you will be taken to a screen that says "Accept Chucks invitation" Or "turn down Chucks invitation". DONT click on "turn down invitation". Click the other one. Once you have access you can access and download the plans at any time – your access is perpetual. We are excited to bring this project and hope to see some new build logs soon. Please start one and join in on all the fun. If you have trouble finding the HMS Winchelsea downloads area after getting your invitation please contact Chuck via PM. Let me know if you have any questions. Happy modelling!!!! and DONT FORGET TO READ THE COPYRIGHT AGREEMENT. By joining the group you agree to abide by the use policy rules set up for the of the plans.

Winnie was 125' between perps and 35.2' in beam. Triton was 124' and I think 33' in beam. Its similar but there a few slight differnces in overall appearance. Chuck

Just a quick note.....If you havent paid the access fee but click on the Downloads forum in the Nav bar, you will see this. You will be invited to the downloads area after paying the access fee on the NRG web store. Then it will look very different. You will see all of the plans listed for download.

Great to see you join Joe. I will have some parts available within a couple of weeks. I really just have to package up each installment. I am not sure I understand your second comment however. The group shows up just fine. You were able to start your log. Which group doesnt show up? Dont forget to check the other tabs in the header of this group. Just under the banner.

You can link to the HMS Winchelsea Group Project here.....Click Here This group is just getting started and we encourage all of you join. This is a wonderful introduction to scratch building techniques. You can scratch build this entire project or buy some portions of it as laser cut parts. You only buy those parts that you need and if you are comfortable building them from scratch or willing to try, this is the perfect project to learn those skills. This model is 1/4" scale and plank on bulkhead in design. The completed model will be 38" long in this scale. If you have any questions about this group before joining...please reply to this topic and ask away. As this project is just getting off the ground, if you are planning to join, can you please start a build log for it now so we can get a better idea of how many will be participating. This will give us time to make sure we have enough parts in stock should folks want to buy them. Thank You. It would be a big help. Please start a log in the group just under my prototype build log and let us know how you plan to build the model. Will it be 100% scratch built? Will you be using Yellow cedar? Boxwood? or other wood species? Will you be sticking with the 1/4" scale? As soon as we can add the access to the NRG store....click here....we will start granting access and get this group started. Chuck

Mike its looking outstanding. If you bring it by on the shop on the 17th we should take some pics of both models side by side. It looks fantastic. Do you have a coat of poly on the boxwood upper planking yet?

you will be able to join this group and download the plans. Then take them to kinkos and get them printed.

Jump right in Joe!!!

Sure!!! Not an issue. I will separate those out.

If you are considering joining this group to build the model of Winchelsea, here is a brief description of the plans you will gain access to. You will need to download these PDF documents and print them yourself at Kinkos or other facility. There are four large sheets that contain all of the details...they are 40" x 30" in size. Just make sure you print them to the correct size and "as in document". Check your prints against the scale bar on each sheet which shows 1/4" increments. They should match that size after printing. There is another PDF file that contains something like 30 pages I cant remember exactly. This file is for the bulkheads and all plywood parts. All of these parts will be made from 1/4" thick plywood. I am using aircraft light ply. But remember, all 1/4" thick plywood is not actually a 1/4" thick. You may have to alter the width of the slots so your bulkheads will fit nicely into the slots of the false keel. These files are presented on 8 1/2" x 11" pages so you can just print them out on your personal printer and get started. There are however two sheets that are 11 x 17 because they were too large. These can be printed at staples or kinkos or something like that. So with these initial files so easy to print on your own you can adhere them to your plywood and cut them out with a scroll saw. Feel free to start a discussion on your personal favorite method for adhering the templates to the plywood. I am sure it would be very helpful to everyone participating in the group. You will need EIGHT 12" x 24" sheets of 1/4" ply to fit all of these parts for the skeletal framework. Any Questions??? Oh!!! This model is in 1/4" scale and when finished it will be 38" long. This model will be unrigged and was inspired by the contemporary model of the HMS Winchelsea in the National Maritime Museum. Its a very big model.

This is where you can talk about planking the hull outboard as described in Chapter two of the monograph.

This is where we will discuss any questions and details for assembling the bulkheads and keel parts as described in chapter one of the monograph.

Coming soon!!!

Looks fantastic.

Listed below are the materials you will need to complete each chapter. You will notice that they are each broken down into three categories. - Laser cut parts and materials available for this chapter from Syren Ship Model Company. Not all of the parts will be available laser cut for each chapter as this is basically a scratch/semi scratch project. This list details what you get should you buy the laser cut parts. For example, there are no bulkheads and false keel or ply parts for sale laser cut. You will need to buy the required sheets of 1/4" plywood sheets and cut your own parts using a scroll saw. Depending on how this goes...a separate plywood laser cut package will be made available in the future but we want to encourage some scratch building with this project. - Wood and materials you will still need if you do buy the laser package for each installment. Since this isnt a kit, in most cases there will still be additional wood strips and sheets needed. For example, upward of 300 wood strips of various sizes will need to be milled or bought to plank the exterior of the hull in installment two. I nice checklist has been developed for each chapter of the project. Download that here All laser cut parts and other fittings can be bought here at Syren Ship Model Company. Chapter One - Materials List for Winnie first.pdf Chapter Two - Materials List for Winnie second.pdf Chapter Three - Materials List for Winnie third.pdf Chapter Four - Materials List for Winnie fourth.pdf Chapter Five - Materials List for Winnie fifth.pdf Chapter Six - twelve pounder cannon and carriages Chapter Seven - Materials List for Winnie seventh.pdf Chapter Eight - Materials List for Winnie Eight.pdf Chapter Nine - Materials List for Winnie Nine.pdf Chapter Ten - Materials List for Winnie Ten.pdf Chapter Eleven - Materials List for Winnie Eleven.pdf Chapter Twelve - Materials List for Winnie twelve.pdf

We have many folks to thank for the monumental effort of producing these plans and group project. The plans literally took hundreds if not thousands of man hours to create. They are an MSW Exclusive as provided by Syren Ship Model Company. They have been generously offered to all members for a small fee to allow access, but with the understanding that you can use them for your own personal use only. But please do not share them on other sites or alter them for sale or distribution in any form. You can print them for your use to build the model but they can not be used commercially in any way. Please dont take these plans and create a kit and make them available on Alibaba, Aliexpress, EBAY or Amazon!!! Any member found violating this copyright/use agreement is subject to removal from Model Ship World and/or possible legal action. They are the sole property of the Syren Ship Model Company and are copyright as such. Thank you so much and enjoy the project. If you have any questions just send me a private message. Chuck Admin

To get access one must go to the NRG Store (will be set up soon) and supply your Model Ship World (MSW) user name and proceed to pay the $15 access charge. Upon receipt of the payment the NRG Office will notify Chuck to grant access to you. Chuck will permit access by sending you an invitation to the private downloads area. Please allow a few days as Chuck is the only one able to provide access. You will see your invitation in the notifications area at the top of the screen. Its the same place that notifies you if there are replies to topics you are following etc. Once you click on your invitation you will be taken to a screen that says "Accept Chucks invitation" Or "turn down Chucks invitation". DONT click on "turn down invitation". Click the other one. Once you have access you can access and download the plans at any time – your access is perpetual. There are NO PRINTED PLANS for this project. You must download them and take them to staples or Kinkos or any printer on your own. They can be printed for your own personal use ONLY. There are four large 30 x 40 sheets. There are also many 8 1/2" x 11" sheets for download which you can print on your home printer. THERE ARE NO PRINTED PLANS FOR THE WINNIE FOR SALE!!! You will not recieve any printed plans when you sign up at the the NRG Store. We are excited to bring this project and hope to see some new build logs soon. Please start one and join in on all the fun. If you have trouble finding the HMS Winchelsea downloads area after getting your invitation please contact Chuck via PM. Access to the NRG store....click here....then enjoy the project.