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Nicely done Marc - looking very “shipshape”.
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Congratulations David on completing a really fine model. You can be justifiably proud of your achievement - truly lovely work.
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Wow, thanks for all the nice comments folks! And thanks Ric for the advice on fitting tyres - I’ll remember that for the next one - or three! As for painting the wheels, I know you are right but I just prefer the look of the chrome. Bob, the short answer is yes. What I did was within each folder, I selected all the individual files, right clicked and selected “create PDF”. I’m on a Mac, so not sure if this is the same procedure for Windows, but there should be a similar function. This creates a single PDF file within each folder with all of the photos for that folder within it. You can scroll through each page within that file. The original files remain as they were, so you’re not changing them - just adding a new file that is easier to work with. I have also printed each PDF file as I have gone, and then wire bound each of these into a booklet (I have a wire binding machine for my business stuff). It’s an expensive option in terms of printer ink, paper and binding supplies, but I prefer working with a hard copy on the workbench - I just find it easier to flick back and forth when I need to - and I need to a lot!!! It also means I can sit and study each section away from the computer.
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Thanks Bob, Yes, I’ve heard nightmare stories about the wheels being the make or break point for some builders. To be honest, without Paul Koo’s guidance on the “easy” way to build them, I’d be lost. The steering wheel is walnut - they offer several different choices of wood but I liked this one to go with my walnut dash. All of Model Motorcars aftermarket parts are first class - well designed, well made - and very expensive!!! And I have to pay exorbitant shipping rates on top of that, not to mention the unfavourable exchange rate at the moment. I’ve been very selective about what I’ve bought for this model. Who knows, I may end up buying more for the next one - it’s kind of addictive! Make sure you do a thorough inventory of your kit box too Bob, and use Paul’s DVD to help you identify parts. If you are missing anything, chances are that Paul will be able to offer a replacement at very reasonable prices. He also includes a series of photographs on his DVD to show you how to pack the parts back into the box afterwards - trust me, you will need that!
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The Wire Wheels - continued Once the glue had cured, the screws from both outer metal rings were removed and the tyres installed. Getting the tyres on was quite a challenge, involving considerable force, the use of a large flat bladed screwdriver, and some very colourful language! Eventually we got there. The brake drums were then attached to the inside of the four main wheels, with the two spare wheels being left “clean”. The brake drums were painted a deep blue, which will match the body fender colour later. Here is the complete set of six wheels – about a week’s work to complete! And here are a couple of shots of the wheels temporarily in situ: I also took delivery this week of a replacement steering wheel. This is an aftermarket component from Model Motorcars – quite expensive but I think makes a huge difference and complements my walnut dashboard nicely. Here it is just temporarily in place for now: That completes this phase of assembly. Next up is the body work….
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Thanks again for all the nice comments and the likes, and thanks Egilman for bringing the thread back on track after some interesting side discussion. On with the show! The Wire Wheels The wire wheels are an interesting challenge in themselves! The wheel hubs are made up of 4 metal and two plastic parts as shown in the photo below. The two plastic parts have notches cut into them to accept the spokes, and these need to be checked to ensure they are not blocked by flash. The outer rim of the plastic parts also needs to be painted chrome to match the metal parts. Once assembled they look like this: The wheel rims are comprised of three plastic and four metal rings. The plastic rings accept the spokes and the spoke hubs. Again, the plastic parts need careful checking for flash and the inner rim surfaces painted chrome: The kit provides an assembly jig for the wheels. In fact, it provides six of these, however few of them are particularly true. Paul Koo’s advice is to find the one that is closest to true and use it for building all six wheels. So that is what I did. Assembly commences by attaching one of the two outer metal rings to the inside of the inner plastic ring. Although it is held in place with three screws, Paul advises that these will later interfere with the fit of the tyre, so his advice is to use glue as well as the screws, and then to remove the screws once the wheel is fully built. So that’s what I did. The rim is then inverted, placed in the jig and held in place with a few pieces of masking tape. The wheel hub is also inserted onto the jig at this point. This is where life starts to get interesting. There are three layers of spokes to make up each wheel. Each of the three layers uses spokes of a different size and shape, so it’s important not to mix these up. Now, if you were to follow the Pocher instructions, they would have you build the wheels with an asymmetrical spoke pattern. This is problematic in that for this to work, within each layer of spokes you would really need two different sizes of spoke – one for clockwise pointing spokes and one for counter-clockwise pointing spokes. As Pocher only provides one size of spoke for each layer, this would mean trimming and adjusting half of all the spokes. Paul provides a much simpler solution that produces a symmetrical spoke pattern and therefore only needs one type of spoke for each layer. Not only does the symmetrical pattern look better (in my view), it is also stronger and more stable. Each spoke is inserted into the wheel hub and then has a spoke hub slipped over the outer end. The spoke hub has a small flange on it and this is pressed into the outer plastic ring in the appropriate place. The flanges are meant to press-fit into place, using a small screwdriver to push them in. Good luck with that! Paul advises using the “melting method” if the flanges are difficult to push into place. This is about the time I blessed Paul (again) for advising on the melting method earlier in the build, so I’d had some practice with it before attempting this task. Essentially, the spoke hubs were pressed partially into place and then they were touched with a hot soldering iron tip until they melted their way into the plastic. It sounds like a brutal way to do this, but is remarkably finessed. Once you’ve done a few, you get a real feel for it and the whole process goes quite quickly. Here is the completed first layer of spokes: The first of two inner metal rings is then inserted, followed by the middle plastic ring. There are three locating lugs to position the middle plastic ring before it is screwed in place. However, because we are departing from the Pocher build method, this ring needs to be rotated 120 degrees (ie one locating lug) clockwise. Insertion of the spokes continues in a similar manner to the first layer, with the inner ends being inserted into the remaining spaces on the inner hub ring. Here is the completed second layer. The second inner metal ring, which includes the tyre valve, is now inserted followed by the third and final plastic ring. With this layer, the spokes are inserted into the outer/upper hub ring. Finally, the outer metal ring is attached, again using glue as well as the screws. Continued next post...
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This is a nice little vessel and an interesting kit - I have one in my stash....somewhere.... I’ll pull up a chair and follow along for this build.
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Thanks for the heads-up and sorry to hear of your experience Egilman. I’m confused though - why would you want to mask the varnish? I would have thought that was your final coat? Same for IPA - why would you be taking IPA near a finished surface? I’m sure you had reason to do so - I’m curious to understand better. Bob - I think you’ve been waiting for me to do trials, and I’ve been waiting to see how you went with yours! I’ve just read in your Pen Duick thread how the polishing didn’t work - good to know, but sorry that it was at your expense.
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Thanks for the kind comment Mike. To try and answer your question - the problem I have with the gloss black primer is getting it to the right consistency to spray through the airbrush without clogging. Finding the right “formula” of paint, thinner, and flow improver has been quite challenging and I don’t think I’ve yet hit on the “ideal” mix. Once it is on the model, it’s fine - though if you use a little too much flow improver it will take quite a long time to dry (naturally, since that is the function of flow improver - to slow down the drying time). The varnish is a similar problem only worse and can end up staying tacky for days. The one thing I haven’t tried Yet with the varnish is thinning it with water (the website says it can be thinned with water). Maybe I should give that a go. I’m also trialling the Liquitex permanent high gloss acrylic varnish. It sprays perfectly straight out of the bottle. It may need several coats - I’ve only done one so far, so am reserving judgement. I can’t comment on other products as I’ve no direct experience with them.
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Bob, For most of the engine I’ve used paints from the Vallejo Metal Colour range. The engine block etc is painted with Dull Aluminium, with Gun Metal for the highlighted bolt heads. I’ve also used Steel for some of the underside, like the Oil Cooler and drive shaft/rear axle, and also the radiator. I also used Model Air Black for the black parts. The Metal Colour range recommends a Gloss Black primer and also the Metal Varnish as a top coat. I’ve had a lot of issues with both the primer and with the varnish - getting the right consistency for the airbrush has been quite challenging. ... and a little birdie told me that you might have already pulled the trigger....😎 Your secret is safe with me ....... and the 35,000 members of MSW. 😉
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That’s some really nice progress there Sjors. I think Jan may have been referring to the funnels. As for paint scheme, I always reckon it’s “Captain’s Choice” - so whatever colour Anja wants is the right colour!😉 Oh - and tell Anja that I’m still using her (and your) little gift from our visit to Victory all those years ago. 😊
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I haven’t been able to find it Bob. It’s possible that he either took the log down, or it may be that he just posted a few photos in one of his ship build logs. He hasn’t been active here for a while now, so not sure that even a PM would be answered, though you could try. But stick around long enough and you’ll see one from me! 😉 (I’ll have to do a ship or two first though.....) Edit: I did manage to find some pics on his website here: http://lehmanshipyard.blogspot.com/p/1932-rolls-royce.html and some more pics here (click on the photo and it will take you to the link):
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Miscellaneous Items There are a few extra bits and pieces that I completed under the heading of “miscellaneous” items. The first of these was the battery box. Although the luggage compartments make an ideal hiding place for a battery box, I discovered that even a AAA battery size is too large for the space. Paul Koo showed using an ‘N’ size battery here. While I was able to find ‘N’ size batteries at my local electronics store, I could not find a battery holder to match. So I made my own by cannibalising the connectors from a AAA battery box and making a new box from 1.5mm styrene. It’s a snug fit even so, but we got there in the end. Pocher provides a neat little set of tools that simply require painting and gluing in place in the tool box, and a leather log book, the pages of which are cut from the pages of the instruction manual. They are a nice touch to add a little extra interest to the model. With all of the chassis work completed, I was able to go back and install my scratch-built ignition wiring loom along with all the spark plug leads. The leads themselves are an after-market part from Model Motorcars. And finally, here is a ‘glam shot’ of overall progress to date. Next up, the wire wheels......stay tuned.
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The Rear Axle (continued) The rear axle mounts to the frame via two bolts through the rear floorboard, which first had to be adjusted in shape to enable it to sit horizontally once fitted. The rear bolt is used to also mount the rear dampers, however this part is incorrect to allow proper fitting of the dampers. Apparently in some variations of this kit a correct part was included but for the majority of the kit variations Pocher continued to supply the wrong part. Two options are available to correct this. One option is to replace the incorrect part with a custom machined part. A simpler, though still incorrect option is to mount the damper to the axle using the inner two damper plates and then mount the damper to the chassis using the outer two plates. While this is technically incorrect, it still looks okay, so this is the option I chose. The two luggage boxes are also mounted on top of the rear floorboard, with the left-hand luggage box being drilled through for the wiring to the battery box. This completes the Rear Axle assembly. Chassis Bottom The next item to address is the Oil Cooler and its plumbing. The usual adjustment of the plastic parts and subsequent painting precedes installation. The Oil Cooler is attached to the chassis bottom via two screws in the main floorboard. The position of the floorboard was previously adjusted during the body test fitting to ensure that the Cooler Filler pipe would correctly align with the appropriate hole in the fender. The pipework for the oil cooler consists of two brass rods that must be bent to shape according to some patterns provided in the manual. The right-side pattern is fine, although some of the bends are quite tricky to get just right. This line runs from the rear of the oil cooler along the chassis side and eventually into the engine. It’s the top line in the photo below. The pattern for the left side pipe however is incorrect. Fortunately, Paul Koo warns of this and advises how to go about shaping the line for a correct fit. It runs from the middle left side of the oil cooler around the transmission and into the engine. Fuel Tank The Fuel Tank is another item that requires a departure from the standard instructions. If fitted according to the manual, it will be too upright and the filler cap will not align with the hole in the bodywork. The fix is fairly simple in that it only requires leaving off the upper/forward mounting blocks. This allows the fuel tank to lean forward, which will then align the filler cap. Pocher addressed this in later versions of the kit by providing a differently shaped filler cap. The fuel pump is also attached to the chassis via a mounting point on the rear floorboard and two copper lines are run connecting the pump to the fuel tank and carburettor respectively. An electrical wire (green wire in the photo below) is also run all the way forward along the chassis, then up through the firewall to connect to the back of the fuel gauge on the dashboard. Exhaust System The Exhaust system presents no particular problems other than the usual parts fit problems. To remedy this, the exhaust parts are not glued into the exhaust manifolds on the engine, thereby allowing the parts to self-adjust as they are fitted. In the photo below, the rear manifold appears to have shifted slightly during subsequent operations and will need to be readjusted in due course. Continued next post...
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