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Bill, the course leech lines go up more or less vertically from the deck belay point, pass through the under-top blocks from aft to forward, and then to the leech line block on lower yard. See text pg 243 and plan 8 for the fore mast; the main is the same. Yes, the leech lines pass between the shrouds and the futtock shrouds if that is what you mean. They then run to the yard, passing forward of the forward-most lower shroud. As in plan 8 again. Longridge also mentions that the main course leech lines each connect to a single 10" block, to form tackles to reduce the pulling force. For some reason, this is mentioned as only an option for the fore leech lines 😬 You're certainly running rings around me and my "rigging" of Preussen; I can only stand about one hour sessions then I'm done. Still distracted by thoughts of an RC galley 😀, and also spending time keeping active (skated 27 km on the Rideau Canal today ⛸️ Hmmm, no "hockey skate" emoji, I don't wear womens' white figure skates 😁).
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Condolences to the family. What a pity Monsieur Saunier did not have the chance to complete his work of art. Comparable to an author passing away part way through writing a masterpiece (think "The Master Mariner Book II"). His family will always wonder what might have been, at the same time as having this magnificent reminder of him.
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Ole, just a thought: for rigging your Passat or any of the windjammers, a good book to have is "Masting and Rigging the Clipper Ship and Ocean Carrier" by Harold Underhill.
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Marc, I'm flabbergasted!!! Viewing your brilliant SR's progress, I just assumed you had built many full-rigged ships in the past! Fortunately, the SR's 17th century rig is nowhere near as complex as the Victory. On the other hand there are all the crow's feet to rig without distorting the stays 🤪. Are you aware of RC Anderson's book to help rig her?
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I know exactly what you mean. I went through the same experience building my Victory while reading Blue Ensign's and Dafi's very informative logs on, all together now: "the old Pete Coleman Victory Modeling Site". Mine wouldn't be a patch on how it did turn out without such inspiration. Even such basic things as the existence of Longridge's book; how ever else would I have discovered it?
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Robert, On my Heller Victory I could not find black thread of the correct size for the mainstay. I bought natural colour and used black fabric dye to colour it. You could colour the brown thread if its manufacturer is on your approved list.
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She's beautiful! Looks like you cut sheet lead to fit; how did you cut it? I remember trying to saw lead once and it was near impossible. And lead shot is now rare.
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Super super model! I still think it would make a magnificent RC model. Pardon my ignorance on corvettes, but I'd have thought they'd carry as many depth charges as possible. The visible count seems low to me. Were more reloads stored below deck? EDIT Out of curiosity I googled it 🙄 the flower class carried 70. I guess some were below.
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Beautiful model. Doesn't she need a float for the trap line? 🙂
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Plan 7 shows those needed for running rigging. You can pick the lines out then look them up in the index for text description. Plan 6 tries to show those needed for standing rigging but it's obscured by deadeyes. Eyebolts are needed for topmast shifting backstays, topgallant shifting backstays on fore and main, and royal backstays. Shifting backstays are those with a block in them at the bottom end as shown in Plan 6. Relevant text is pp 231-233. Good luck!
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Very nice!! Did you happen to provide a drain for the cockpit? I recently took my old M-Class yacht and restored it more like a real one and discovered my poor helmsman sitting up to his bum in water after voyaging on a choppy sea 🙄. Also what kind of winch are you using? I kept my 70's drum winch but maybe it should be replaced.
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I love pipe bands. The first sound of a drone starting I can feel the tingle run down my spine - must be hereditary memory, the call to grab a claymore and run to the action. Took the kids to Scotland and the Edinburgh tattoo a few years back. When the massed pipes marched out across the drawbridge and fanned out along the parade ground, my son turned to me and said, "This is cool!" 🙂
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What a gorgeous model! The era was so ornate....she looks like the inside of the Linderhof Palace in Bavaria which we visited on a bicycle trip. Our jaws were dropped throughout the whole tour. https://www.google.com/search?q=linderhof+palace+images&tbm=isch&chips=q:linderhof+palace,g_1:inside:7N3vfeD-GQ0%3D&client=firefox-b-d&hl=en-US&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiU3d6X4Nn1AhVGqXIEHWFFB8oQ4lYoAHoECAEQGg&biw=1103&bih=507
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Chief, you're the first person I've ever heard, apart from my Scottish parents, to use the word "mankey" (I think it is actually "manky"). Some Scots in you? Regards, Ian
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Bill, regarding the sprit topsail, I was not able to find any detailed descriptions in the books I have, but I did find these diagrams in Harland. As you can see the topsail went from vertically set in the days of the sprit topmast, to more flatted out between sprit topsail yard and spritsail yard in the days of the jib boom.
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Touche!! (Don't know how to put the accent over the "e"). Don't know where that's from, and I only have a few books, but Hackney, Longridge, and Lees place the traveller out near the end of the jib boom. It is also placed there in Geoff Hunt's many paintings of Victory (I have his book "The Marine Art of Geoff Hunt"). In fact, Lees mentions that the traveller was abolished about 1815, and the jib stay just led through a sheave at the end of the jib boom.
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Sprit topsail yard's parral is on the jib boom. I've never seen a pic of Victory's traveller inboard of the yard. Reference Longridge running rigging plan.
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