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Last night, I spent a few hours fitting the stern cross-brace that delineates the upper limit of the middle tier of stern lights. I took a few pictures that illustrate the degree to which the starboard side projects aft-wards, beyond the same point on the port side.
First, I layout a series of widths, from the centerline I scribed into the brace, using a pair of overlapping tic-strips to accurately record these inside dimensions. The resulting layout is within a heavy pencil line of where I need to end up:
Then, it’s just a back and forth process of fitting and fettling to get a nice cope with proper bevels to match the interior tumblehome:
Not quite there, yet
Closer. You can see how much deeper I have to let the brace, on the port side, just to reach the planking rabbet on the starboard side. Still more to go, though.
At this point, I was far enough past the starboard plank rabbet to trace the round-up line. Just take a look, though, at the degree to which that round-up line is out of square:
I was going to trim to the round-up line and glue-in the brace, before calling it a night, but I decided to let it sit overnight. I am glad I did.
This morning, I took a look with fresh(er) eyes. Here is crude illustration of what is happening to the round-up, as the stern rises and becomes increasingly out of square. On the left is a basic plan view, where we are square at the waterline, and the starboard side (dotted line) begins to project further aft than port - up to a heavy 1/8” at the tafferal:
In an exaggerated way, the right side of the drawing illustrates what is happening with my arc of round-up, as the stern rises.
Two things are at play here. As the tumblehome increases, the segments of that round-up arc become shorter, and give the appearance of being flatter. More significantly, though, as the stern grows increasingly out of square, the round-up arc becomes increasingly tangential, so that it does not bellow-out beyond the stern profile.
Much of this project of reverse engineering amounts to tweaking things so that they look right, even if they aren’t right. My inclination, here, is to tweak the round-up arc, at this level, so that it is a tighter radius across this shortened span (hash line furthest right); then, I will restore some projection beyond the starboard stern profile.
The other consideration is that the upper stern balcony, at this level, will certainly provide a sense of projection, but it may amplify this discrepancy when viewed against the lower balcony - particularly, if I do not alter the arc of round-up; one viewed against the other like winding sticks.
So, what say the real shipwrights - does what I am proposing make good sense? Is this a reasonable hedge against my stern beginning to appear flattened and twisted?
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‘Very much appreciated, gentlemen!
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Thank you Henry! I knew I could count on you for correct rigging terminology.
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Alive and kickin’, part II.
I have finally painted the last bulwark to satisfaction. Here it is, dry-fit:
I have fitted all the channels and scraped away paint in the glue locations:
A couple of troublesome little details needed to be resolved. First, I was thinking about how the plank-ends of the f’ocsle and quarter deck were supposed to resolve, over the last exposed beam. My first instinct was to have the plank ends exposed, with a slight overhang beyond the beam.
The more I studied other models, though, it dawned on me that this would not be correct for French practice in the latter half of the 17th C. Take a look at the following examples:
On Michel Saunier’s SR, the plank ends are let into the last beam, which is dimensionally deeper to accept the plank thickness.
The same can be seen on the louis Quinze:
above photos courtesy of Marc Yeu
So, I decided to cut back my deck piece, and I will in-fill a strip of styrene with a just-broken edge to highlight the demarcation ever so slightly:
My f’ocsle beam isn’t perfectly straight, apparently, but this discrepancy will be concealed by the f’ocsle break railing and belfry. You will see the detail at the deck entry points. I will also apply a simple half-round moulding to cover the joint between the beam and the applied strip.
Next, I realized that I needed to cut-back more of the kit deck ledge so that I could abut my quarter deck beam to the hanging knee, as I did at the f’ocsle. This shortening of the Q-deck also provided more clearance for the main halyard tackle. I’m not sure if I’m correctly referencing the line, but it reaves through the large bitt, just aft of the mast (with a piece of blue tape on it).
Lastly, I wanted to make-up the supporting brace that ties each successive level of the stern together. I laminate two pieces of 1/16” stock together, and leave them to dry over a camber former.
The one caveat is that I wanted to introduce ever so slightly more camber over the next two levels of the stern. I had done so, along the top edge of the mid-balcony rail. Here is how that compares with the former:
The difference is barely perceptible, but it is one of many small details that will improve the overall perception of the thing.
For my lamination, I applied three pieces of green tape to the center inch of the former:
And the match was spot-on:
When I get to the top tier of windows, I may do as many as six pieces of tape, as the camber would be greatest at the poop and poop-royal decks.
Well, that’s where things stand for now. Hopefully, tomorrow, I will glue-in the bulwark. Then, I can cope the brace to delineate the upper limit of the second window tier, while strengthening the bulwark connection. Then, I can pattern the window piece in cardboard and do an exact layout drawing.
Thank you all for your continued interest in the project.
Best,
Marc
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I would think common rubbing alcohol would work just fine.
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I also really like it, but I would go over it with a matte spray, once it is completely dry.
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I realize that a number of you following this build may not be aware that Michel Saunier passed away, earlier this month. Michel had been working diligently to complete his masterwork, however, a fatal heart attack robbed him of that opportunity. His loss, among the worldwide community of ship-modelers, is deeply felt by people such as myself and many others whom Michel helped along our way with his deep knowledge and advice.
Following funeral services for Michel, on February 7th, Marc Yeu was invited back to the family home and afforded the opportunity to photograph the model one last time.
While it remains a possibility that one of Michel’s children will be inspired, some day, to complete the model, Michel’s Soleil Royal will virtually disappear from public view.
Marc Yeu has granted me permission to post his high-res photographs, and it seemed to me that Michel’s own build-log was the most sensible place to do so.
Marc captured numerous angles so that this photo essay is an invaluable and enduring resource to all who are interested in this ship, and contemporaries of her time. As Marc commented to me, just recently - regarded in its entirety, it truly is a staggering piece of work!
Enjoy these pictures, mes amis:
photos courtesy of Marc Yeu, AKA Nek0
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Thank you, Ian! Yes, I do have RC Anderson, and also James Lees. Those two, together with the SP monograph should enable me to map out the particularities of French practice.
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Trust me, Kevin - there are bodies buried all over this model; I’ve just gotten better at disguising their appearance, or better - turning mistakes into features. Just look back to when I nearly cut clear-through my mainmast at deck level because I fell asleep at the wheel, so to speak.
First, I filled the kerf with a piece of styrene sheet, but then I needed to mortise a dutchman to bring strength back to the mast:
I sometimes am tempted to have a side project, but I know myself too well - I won’t finish anything. What I like to do is jump around within the model, and make mini- models out of certain aspects of the build just to keep my interest high. The stove is a good example of that - it didn’t need to be nearly as detailed as it ended up being. In the near future, the f’ocsle capstan will be fun bit of scratch.
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I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that you are still hooping, Bill, with you being a native Kentuckian; the bluegrass tradition runs strong through your veins! I had to stop competitively playing the greatest game ever invented, at 42, when I had my hip replaced. I still love to shoot the ball, though. In fact, shooting a basketball is a lot like shooting a Kentucky rifle; you have to be absolutely locked-in, in the moment, to be any good at it.
Thank you for asking about Dad. Yes, he has settled-in really well at the new place. He has made friends, and it’s a very comfortable and up-lifting place. The food is really, pretty good and varied. And, so far, keeping his dog has not been the issue I feared it would; I was imagining her sneaking out of the apartment and running crazy through the halls, bolting past unsteady seniors, etc. We got him there, just in-time. On a basic conversational level, he still seems fine, but he is increasingly incapable of holding onto any new information, and he quickly becomes confused. He seems much more contented than he has for a long while, now, so that’s all that really matters.
As always, thank you for your thoughts and for looking in.
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Personally, I consider it a good thing to be confused with Kevin, so no worries there!
Thank you, Bill! Lately, I feel as though I will never finish painting this last bulwark, but the devil’s in the details, so I will laboriously slog-on.
I am similarly inspired by your rigging efforts on the Vic, as to do it right is a true exercise in patience and perseverance. I am sorry I don’t have much to contribute, there, as I am a novice to rigging, myself.
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That walnut ink is magic, as far as I’m concerned. Your deck sample has a subtly weathered appearance that I find very pleasing.
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Awesome pic! I could tell you what I think it really is, but it’s more fun to imagine that it’s my boss’s stomach.
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On 1/25/2022 at 8:58 PM, EricWilliamMarshall said:
I've used up all the copper plates (to my surprise) and have spent my dollars so some more will find its way from Maine to my secret lair.
(ok, it isn't a lair nor secret...)
M’WHAAHAHAHAHA (my evil secret lair laugh).
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WOW - so these are excellent! Your carved work, shows the range you have for both high and low relief. I will be following along with great interest.
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Beautiful work Siggi!
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Best wishes for a speedy recovery!
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Soleil Royal by Hubac's Historian - Heller - An Extensive Modification and Partial Scratch-Build
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Thank you, Bill!
Kevin, let me think on it, and I will respond more fully.
Jan, I considered altering the starboard profile, much earlier in the build, because I saw this problem coming. I decided against it at the time because I needed every bit of space available to me to lay out the frieze and the quarter piece and the Africa figure - all relative to the amortisement.
Seeing the problem in my imagination, and then seeing it in concrete reality, though, are two different things. So far, the whole stern has been coped together so carefully that these discrepancies of square aren’t really apparent unless you know to look for them.
The round-up appearing to flatten out, though, seems likely to draw more attention to this problem area of the stern. Fortunately, the second balcony doesn’t wrap to the quarters.
I think I won’t really have a sense for how this will all play out until I can draw a few different arcs of round-up onto the brace, so that I can compare the perception of winding with the balcony below.
Now that I have the fit where I want it, I do not think that I will attempt to let the brace further aft. Instead, I’ll glue a strip of styrene to the aft face and that will give me a little extra material to play with.