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Kirill - when there is a lack of any clear evidence pointing you in the right direction, I like to think about what makes the most practical sense; given the rudder’s importance to the ship, it makes sense that it would be secured from both sides for added insurance. It is another curious thing that - despite the super detailed drawings of the Elder VDV - he never seemed to draw the rudder pendants. And the ships are always depicted in the heat of action, or the immediate aftermath when the pendants would surely have been in place. Shoutout to Arsenio Hall: things that make you go “HMMMM”!
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For what it’s worth, though, the mizzen mast of square riggers, right up to the mid 18-hundreds, carried a lateen sail, and the mast was rigged for shrouds and ratlines. Mind you - I’m not disagreeing with you. It’s just a curious thing.
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This model you are showing seems like a reasonable compromise.
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I see your point Kirill, but I think the ability to get up the mast would still be important in certain sail handling situations, or Jerry-rig repairs.
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One point of curiosity about this model, and this type of ship, in general; every Reale model I’ve looked at has shrouds, but no ratlines. Even the prototype in the Musee de la Marine is without ratlines. Why is that?
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I posted a test message because your previous post - for which I received an email notification did not appear, when I went to your page. No number of refreshes brought it to light. So, I posted a test message to see whether the page would refresh that way. Whatever you wrote this morning still isn’t visible to me. I deleted the test message, though.
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Your last edited photo with the gammoning going through the trailboard is even less structurally sound. All I’m trying to advise, here, is that if you are going to go to the trouble of making something immensely complex, like the SP, then try to avoid glaringly wrong work arounds. If it were me, I might redraw the timbering, so that the gammoning didn’t pierce at an awkward place below the lower cheek, and I would probably cheat the waterline down by a 1/16” - 1/8”. It may not be exactly right, but it is more correct LOOKING than what Lemineur provides for.
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As you are still in a conjectural planning/spitballing phase, I would like to chime-in on your proposed re-gammoning location. From a timbering standpoint, running the gammoning above the trailboard creates a vulnerable weak spot that jeopardizes the bowsprit. Also, it just wasn’t done, so the wrongness of its appearance, here, would look even more wrong than the gammoning soaking beneath the waterline. It seems to me that, while you may have to re-think the timber joinery beneath the trailbord, there is ample space to locate the gammoning above the waterline, but below the lower cheek.
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That is also an interesting idea, Mark. Future Floor Finish sounds like something I could easily find at the hardware store. Thanks for the tip!
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Michael and Dan - thank you for the suggestions. I’m going to order a bottle of this BSI release agent. If it doesn’t work, I’ll experiment with your ideas. In the end, the best thing may be to leave it alone. Thanks for weighing-in guys!
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Not to derail your log, Michael, but this is really worth a look for anyone who hasn’t seen it:
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The Blue Ensign log us a now completed build of a Heller kitbash into La Superbe. It is a spectacular piece of work, and his tutorial on sailmaking is very thorough.
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In my SR log, I asked Micheal to post links to pics of his 1765 Victory build. It was there that I first noticed his sail furling technique and asked him to describe it. Between Michael and Blue Ensign’s methods, I should eventually arrive at a dynamite suite of sails!
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I’m glad that you posted these pictures of the sail, in process. Now I can see what you were describing in another thread about their shape. Would you say that the same shape works regardless of whatever type of sail you are trying to mimic - square, lateen, etc? All of that just really looks fabulous!
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