Keith Black

Thank you Pat for looking in. You're not late by any means, I'm still trying to find with both hands. John, I know so little about these vessels. It's going to take me awhile to get a grasp of the why of things.

Thank you, Eric. After looking more closely I see that The New Era's stack is centered. I researched boiler stack offsets, offsets require being cleaned out more often and are less efficient. Lula's boiler will be run center keel so the stack will be centered. I will try offsetting the ship's wheel and place the boiler more forward than first planned. The open question is whether the firebox is forward or aft. Thank you, Mark. Popcorn is always a welcome treat. Thank you, John. It seems there were numerous examples where the stack was forward of the pilothouse. In your example the stack is extremely close to the pilothouse. My question is, is that an advantage? Thank you, Phil. Though I think you just ruined Mark's popcorn. Thank you to everyone for the likes for supporting my Lula build. keith

Thank you, Phil. Not quite done, a few bits remain to be added plus a couple of figures.

Thank you, Dan. I had no worries about finishing the pile driver, it's the pile driver, support boat, now piling barge, tower crane, and dock diorama vision along with the Tennessee that I worry about not having time left to finish. Thank you, Keith. The garbage scow was tongue in cheek. I did do some research on the subject and the below is a most interesting peek back into the "way it was" https://www.google.com/search?q=new+york+historical+film+clip+showing+garbage+scow+being+loaded+by+horse+and+wagon&client=safari&sca_esv=5a02a879fec8af02&rls=en&ei=7jAVZ-XpI861ptQP45SPWQ&ved=0ahUKEwjlmJLPsZ2JAxXOmokEHWPKIwsQ4dUDCA8&oq=new+york+historical+film+clip+showing+garbage+scow+being+loaded+by+horse+and+wagon&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiUm5ldyB5b3JrIGhpc3RvcmljYWwgZmlsbSBjbGlwIHNob3dpbmcgZ2FyYmFnZSBzY293IGJlaW5nIGxvYWRlZCBieSBob3JzZSBhbmQgd2Fnb25IAFAAWABwAHgAkAEAmAEAoAEAqgEAuAEMyAEA-AEBmAIAoAIAmAMAkgcAoAcA&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:1d3fa88b,vid:dGs9Ve-Pw74,st:0

Absolutely, Eric. These were some fairly narrow vessels to begin with.

Thank you to everyone for the likes for this new project. Thank you, Bob. Thank you, Glen. Thank you, Grant. Thank you, Jeff. The plan that rattles around in my head has cargo space forward of the boiler. Because Lula supplied pile drivers she didn't require a large cargo area. Most importantly would have been a water tank to top off the boiler water tanks on the pile driver barges. I'm somewhat loathe to bring this up as it requires more work but I'm pretty sure the supply boats would have been pushing a barge of piling from driver to driver. Eric, I can't thank you enough for taking the time to provide the invaluable photos. Having the stack or pilothouse/ship's wheel offset may not be the plan I first envisioned but it certainly provides a clean easy solution. No worries as to not being here for a couple of weeks as it's going to take me that long to get my act together. Thank you, Ken. Thank you for coming aboard, Ian. I think it was a matter of distributing the weight of the boiler along the keel thus determining the stack location. What I need to research was it possible/practical to offset the boiler stack. Lula having an offset stack would be another neat little quirk. Thank you, Gary. I'm glad you like Lula, she looks like something you'd take a fancy to in one of your projects. Yes, the New Era option is that which I'll explore first. Thank you to everyone who has signed on to follow Lula's journey. Keith

Thank you, Pat. Please do not ever feel like you're cluttering one of my logs with comments whether they're on topic or off. I like to think my build logs are representative of my worktable. When in the midst of a build my worktable maybe covered with a myriad of items. Someone other than myself may think not all those items are necessary but each is essential for the task at hand. The same applies with my build logs, some may think the comments by others a clutter especially if off topic. I welcome every comment, on or off topic. On topic comments keep me pointed toward the finish line, off topic comments provide a much needed break along the way. One of the greatest compliments is when the teacher compliments his student. Thank you, Gary.

Absolutely!

Now that the pile driver is nearing completion it's time to turn my attention to a supply boat. When I came across this image of Lula I immediately feel in love with her rough looks and diminutive stature. Lula as pictured is a chain driven, internal combustion engined ferry. The trick is turning Lula into a steam powered support boat which means putting the boiler where the Model A's are parked with the the steam engine below the wheelhouse. Long ago when I first envisioned the pile driver and the support boat in my minds eye I saw a single stack boiler for the support boat. I know very very little about paddle steamers though I've been doing a lot of research here on MSW and Google on the subject. Having said that I'm going to be asking some very newbe questions so please bear with me. if in the course of this build, if any of you think I need to be corrected on something, please do not hesitate to bring the matter to my attention. I have a ton of learning ahead of me but with your help I'm certain we'll get there. My first question, how much viewing obstruction is there with a single stack ahead of a wheelhouse? Is my vision practical? Thank you. Keith

She's beautiful, Rik.

Thanks to all for he likes and the support. Thank you, Keith. The laughter of that original post make it forever a wonky donkey, thank you for a lasting memory. Thank you, Eric. I'll be relying heavily on you Peerless build as I start in on Lula. Thank you, Bob. Yes, Lula will be a waterline model and I expect Goober and Pile to lend a hand since they have experience working on the King of the Mississippi.

Always a treat seeing new additions to this breathtaking and complicated model, Roel.

Thank you, Richard.

That's a sharp looking dory, Richard. If you can make there other seven look like the first Bob's your uncle.

Thanks for that posting, Tom. That vid just knocks my socks off!

Thank you, Roel.

Ian, you got my attention when you said "spin the bottle" but lost me shortly there after.

I thought about the approach myself. The problem is the funnel, it would have to fold where it could be inserted into the bottle, then unfold once in position, held in place by magic, gel poured in and the freed from the gel and removed. Too many steps to success in a very tight space plus I couldn't find nary a folding funnel.

Resistance is futile, I've printed two copies of Lula and will start scaling her dimensions.

Agreed!

Thank you, Andrew. I'm torn Tom. I desperately need to get back to working on the Tennessee but Lula pulls at me mightily. Lula will be the helper/support sternwheeler for this build. In modern pile driving they refer to a helper/support boat as simply a supply ship which makes sense. Then again I may get a wild hair and build that garbage scow. All kidding aside, a garbage scow done correctly would be a real neat build. So many great subjects, so little time.

Grant, Grant, Grant.

Thank you, Rick. My friend, I've enjoyed having you at my shoulder during this little project. Thank you, Glen. Brian, thank you for that kind thought.

James, first, welcome to MSW, secondly, curb your desire to jump in knee deep and start building. You need to do a ton of research on how to build a model ship before tackling building a ship of the line. Use the resources of MSW and go through build log after build log from start to finish. Within a couple of build logs you'll understand what that D shape is at the bow and see how different builders tackle the making. The knowledge can not be spoon fed, YOU have to want to learn and the easiest way to learn is looking over the shoulders of the many fine modelers here at MSW. Use the MSW search engine to find those build logs that pertain to 19th century French warships.

That's a lot of work done in short order, Glen. Spar after spar after spar becomes pretty boring but populating them isn't for whatever reason. I think it's the repeated tapering. They look spot on, congratulations on getting that part of the project completed.