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It does look better when your not looking at it through a zoomed in camera lens. Actually it's bigger then you'd expect. The scene I created was a ship sailing into shore with treasure on the beach. The treasure was much bigger then the scale of the ship. It's probably more to scale with the larger scale models. Would have made a major haul for the tiny ship I had in the bottle. I'll have to redo the scene one of these days. A better ship and a launch rowing into shore would make it much better. -
Your right. If I lack anything its the patience.
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Perhaps you could lend me some of your rigging spiders. Thank for the compliment Augie. I've heard that idea but never utilized it. I think I should start though. I'm letting some mistakes go on this one. It is so small they are hardly noticed and I'm using it partially as an experiment but mostly to see if I can. Once I'm done I think I'll go to some thing bigger and more detailed where I can really put the camera idea to some use. Maybe the Satisfaction or another ghost ship. Both requests from friends. The Gjoa in a one gallon would be fun too. The Skipper at the club is trying to get me to start on a Model Shipways Elsie as well. So many projects so little time.
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Has any one here Built theThomas W Lawson?
DSiemens replied to J Haines's topic in Nautical/Naval History
I've seen a few Lawsons in bottles at least on line. I don't think there are many ship in bottle builders that aren't tempted by the challenge of seven masts. I know it's on my list. -
Jewelry Jewelry was already mentioned but here's a fun spin on it. I made this for one of my early ship in bottle builds. The ships to ugly to show and this was just rattling around in the bottle so I pulled it out and got a couple shots. A treasure chest. This was some of my earlier work and it's a bit sloppy. A better modeler could make the gold chain look more like coins.
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Match Sticks They actually carve and sand well bend well with a quick soaking and are very inexpensive. All of the channels, rails and external ribs on the Santa Maria above and was done with match sticks. You can also plank a ship with match sticks.
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What a cool thread. Here's one of my regular items. Bamboo Skewers. Bamboo stays very strong at small scale and pulls through a draw plate pretty well. At my 1:500 - 1:1250 scale it works great for masts and yards. On a larger scale I think it would do well for oars or harpoons. Here's a couple of ships with bamboo masts and yards. I've thrown in a couple other shots to help show scale. It may be hard to see but that is an American dime next to the Santa Maria.
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If you mean help by giving me more reason to start this project you may be right. Great painting. She really is a pretty ship. If I were to build her it would be the biggest ship in bottle I've ever built which is perfect since she's relatively simple. She would be a good start into building bigger ships.
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Antony Thats sounds like a cool idea. I hadn't ever thought of a fire exstinguisher. I wonder what the admiral would do if I decided to fire one off so I could model a ship. That does make me think though there are a lot of white powders out there I can use for snow. As mentioned earlier theres sugar and sweet in low. I think I'l take one of my failed ship hulls and do some experimenting.
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Welfalck what you say is very true. As a ship in bottle builder there are few kits so I scratch build and improvise. So many things you find at a regular grocery store can be used to build. I once planked a cutter with match sticks. Bamboo skewers have become my go to item for masts and yards. I often say ship in bottle building is the least expensive hobby out there. That is the case because as you say "modeling items are just overpriced items found in other realms." That would be a fun place to visit especially as a kid. Peaksol thank you very much for the links. This is getting me pretty excited by the idea of this build. I should slow down and finish my others first though. So many ideas so little time.
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Well Augie I didn't make it to the sporting goods store but I ran by the grocery store and found some nice $7 Cuticle clippers that really do the trick. I wish I had these while doing the Mercury it would have improved her look a lot. I took a few pictures of my ratline technique. As I take these close up photos it seems all my mistakes pop out. It's especially difficult with these tiny ships. I guess the size and the bottle hides most of the funky lines though. At least the ratlines look better with out all the ends coming off. Now I got to figure out the main shrouds. The hard part with those is they will be free floating until the ship is in the bottle. So some how I got to glue ratlines to a loose shroud. I think I need a jig.
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Russ thanks for the correction as to which is shroud and which is ratlines. I hadn't realized the difference.
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Moonbug the idea of getting the poop deck to rise up is quiet the challenge. The idea intrigues me and I couldn't help but look up pictures of my Santa Maria to see how I would have done it. My rigging is made for bottling so it's a lot more simple then yours. Looking at it though I think I would make the mast able to come apart and make the chain plates to the back stays removable. This way the lines pulling the mast back could be removed and the mast could come out of place to open deck up. A good way to do this and hide it would be something like the Hinckley Hinge. See #5. I would make the pin going through the mast removable making it easy to pull it apart and replace it when done. I hope that helps.
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Great work Popeye as always. I'm curious as to what nautical back ground your crew has. Did they model for Jolly Rogers?
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I'm kind of surprised no ones answered this yet. That section of rope is called shrouds or ratlines. A clove hitch is used to tie them. Check out this thread. http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1096-rigging-ratlines/ The lines are smaller then the stay lines but I'm not sure by how much.
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Kimberly I was excited to find your log as the Lindberg Jolly Roger was my first ship. I still have it in my boys room where it some how survives the tornado's that are 18 month and 4 years old boys. I've been considering restoring it since I didn't know as much (or anything at all) about ship modeling then and the rigging and paint are a bit of an embarrassment. My thoughts are to take off the top masts and redo it with wood and use actual thread lines for the rigging. We'll see if I ever get to it. A lot of other projects to finish first. Your log brings back memories of trying to get this thing together. I forgot how difficult it was. I remember getting some parts in a "close enough position" because absolutely correct was not feasible. The bowsprit was by far the hardest part. I don't blame you at all for wanting a different kit. Yours is coming along well though your doing great work. Keep it up you'll be happy you completed it if for no better reason then to proved to this kit who was more stubborn.
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Peaksol you bring up a good point. If any one knows how to make snow and ice it's the rail road modelers. I guess I've been spoiled since Google chrome usually translates the page for me. Since it's more of a magazine format it couldn't. Copy and paste might work though.
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I love to see restorations. The process from point a to point b is fascinating. This log is a great example. Incredible work Dan. I echo the thoughts to not be so harsh on the original builder. While he was new to the craft he had the guts and persistence to get the Victory as far as he did. I can't say I would have done the same.
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Peaksol It looks great but I'm afraid I will have to learn more German. I started to learn but ran out of time with work and school.
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Thanks Welfrac that's exactly what I'm looking for.
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Is this a real ship? "Kiel restaurant"
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Thanks! That gives me something to experiment with. I have heard of some baking products molding after a while. Do you know if that's true of sweet and low?
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Very nicely done!
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I've been contemplating an idea and I have to many current projects to start it but I'm really curious if this is feasible. I came across a 1 gallon chemical bottle at a thrift store that looked a bit dirty but overall pretty good. I purchased it and got it home and found that it had chemical stains that I can't get out. I know there's a method using copper, polish and spinning the bottle a few thousand times but I don't have the money or means. I almost got rid of the bottle but I had another thought. The chemical staining is white and looks very much like frost. What if I were to build a ship in an arctic scene and make it look really cold? I'm thinking the staining on the bottle would add to the effect. What better ship to use then the first ship to navigate the North West Passage the Gjoa. In order for this effect to work though I have to include a lot of ice floating in the water and ice and snow on the ship. I've never done this before so I thought I'd open it up here. How do you make a ship look so cold it makes you shiver?
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Very impressive! She is every thing a prestigious flag ship should be.
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