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Draw plate for SQUARE holes
allanyed replied to allanyed's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Thanks Bob, very much appreciated. That is about 3/4" at 1:64 so should work. Allan -
After a long search on the internet I still have not been able to find a draw plate for square holes smaller than 0.5mm. I am searching for a decent quality plate that will draw down to 0.20mm or smaller. If anyone has a lead on where to purchase one I would really appreciate any information that you can share. Thanks in advance Allan
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Hi David, Thanks for continuing to share your work with us. As you did not spile the bottom planking am I correct in assuming that will be covering it with copper sheathing plates? If you are, maybe take a look at Yve's Bellona build log as he wisely made his own rather than using kit supplied stuff. It is far better than what kit manufacturers usually provide. modelshipworld.com/topic/29729-hms-bellona-by-yves-vidal-caf-model-148/page/6/#comment-894079 Allan
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Paul, I hope a lot of kit builders and scratchers as well as some of the other kit manufacturers are taking some time studying your build log as your model is exemplary. Allan
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Anyone coppering a hull should read your posts before starting the sheathing to see a realistic result. I am not sure I love the shiny finish, but your work has enhanced your ship, whereas the extremely poor sheathing provided in nearly all kits detract from the model. Allan
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Welcome to MSW Dave. Yes please do post the photos! The Nautical/Naval History forum here might be appropriate, but no doubt one of the moderators here will give you a better answer. Allan
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Dion, A warm welcome to MSW. If you are relegated to kits rather than scratch building, study the many build logs before investing your money. Once you have homed in on a specific vessel it is very good idea to do some research on the actual ship to see if the details of the kit look like the actual vessel. Not all kits are faithful to the vessel they purport to represent when it comes to the details. Allan
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USCG Harriet Lane - 1:96 1/8" = 1' Model Shipways
allanyed replied to kurtvd19's topic in REVIEWS: Model kits
Congrats on the new kit David!! From the photos she looks like a beauty. When I see belaying pins that are at scale instead of the bowling pins found in so many other brands' kits it brings a smile to my face. Allan -
Hi David, For a relative newbie, as you describe yourself, your work is really coming on! Many of things you are doing are way past some others with more years experience. It is impressive that you are looking at alternative sources for contemporary information to built a realistic looking piece rather than just accepting everything that comes out of the box. The drawings on the Wiki site have the most contemporary information if you want to delve further into the details. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ship_plans_of_the_Royal_Museums_Greenwich The Artois (Diana/Seahorse/Apollo et al) drawings are the last five on the fourth page and the first two on the fifth page. For anyone interested, copy of the original 18 page contract for the Artois class ships, including Diana is available from RMG. One thing that you may want to consider modifying if you can are the gratings. Your coamings and head ledges look terrific. For the gratings themselves, the battens would normally be running fore and aft and the ledges athwartships rather than the other way around. Couple photos from a contemporary model at Preble Hall follow. Allan
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Corel HMS Victory 1:98
allanyed replied to Sheerline's topic in Building, Framing, Planking and plating a ships hull and deck
Welcome to MSW Seatoland It would be a nice gesture if you posted an introduction with a little about yourself on the new member forum. Yes, Cornwall seems to be pretty popular with the membership, thanks for posting. Allan -
Pretty ingenious David. It's good seeing you go through the experimentation to get what you were looking for. They look far better than most, especially at 1:64. Can you make or are there other nozzle sizes so you can then make the various size treenails needed from 3/4" to about 1.5" or 2" ? As to bamboo, when you say lathe, did you actually try to turn these? Splitting bamboo skewers to a slightly larger than needed size then running through a good quality draw plate is fast work for those that do not have a 3D printer. Making in the neighborhood of 10,000 treenails though may justify an investment in a printer. 😀 Allan
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Dying 3D printed resin parts
allanyed replied to Dr PR's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
Hi Phil I have cannon barrels made with black resin so there is no need for dying them. Do you know if this could this work for the chain as well? Thanks Allan -
Rudder painted white?
allanyed replied to Dave_E's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
Dave, A number of contemporary hull block models can be seen on the RMG site that show the white bottoms. For some examples of 60 gun ships for instance go to https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/search/60 gun ship full hull block models You can find a lot more examples of other rates on their collections site. One of the things I found odd was that most of the contemporary block models from after 1782, when copper sheathing became the norm, mostly have white painted bottoms. I did find one photo of a contemporary block model a with copper colored painted bottom which looks far better than the out-of-scale plates found in modern kits. Allan -
Welcome to MSW Evan. Please do post a little about yourself in the new member forum. Never heard of a wooden boat or ship being stained and it can be iffy at times on models as is evident from the above posts. For my own part I prefer to use different species of TIGHT grained wood for different colors if painting is inappropriate. Allan
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It is sooooo nice to see your masts made from square stock rather than dowels. This of course means any wood can be used instead of be relegated to the wood from which store bought dowels are made. You have shown that a lathe is unnecessary to make nicely rounded and tapered masts. Having the mill set up is a big plus, but for most of the folks here, the squaring can be done with chisels, blades, files and patience. Thanks for sharing Allan
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Your work is to be commended and the fact that you have done some research is great to hear. If you have not already checked these, for rigging closer to the era of the GH, books by R.C. Anderson and David Lees are likely to be more accurate as they go back, in detail, to the mid 17th century. Perfect sources??? Probably not as they are quite a few years after GH, but more likely to be closer to GH than anything else other than contemporary sources. Allan
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Rudy, Great progress! This is more of a curiosity thing for me as many build logs show planking that looks to be about 6 inches wide whereas it was normally closer to 9 inches (0.375" at your scale) based on the few contemporary drawings I have seen. Most contemporary drawings show only lines or inboard profiles, but there are a few that do show planking including at least one in W.E. Mays The Boats of Men of War. Do your plans give a width via a drawing or text? I have never found scantlings for the width of the bottom planking, only the few contemporary drawings. I also checked a half dozen contemporary contracts for ships' boats and none of these give the width of the bottom strakes. but would love to hear about a contemporary source if anyone has these. Thanks Allan
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Hi Paul, When I noticed your binnacle with the aft side closed off and the forward side open I thought that the clear openings might be on the wrong side as the helmsmen could not see the compasses but then looked at photos of the binnacle on the modern day Victory and there are clear openings on the forward side there as well. Is this because the candle light would interfere with the night vision of the helmsmen or is there some other reason for this configuration? Thanks Allan
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Your New "cautionary tale" posterchild here!
allanyed replied to Valkyrja68's topic in New member Introductions
Hi Valkyrja It is nice to see a new lady of Odin join MSW. Heck of job you have on the battlefield what with picking which of the men go to Valhalla😀 If you use the search box at the top right and type the words "pirated plans" you will get the post that Chuck Passaro started in 2013 plus updates and discussions. In short it included the following statement and list. Cheers, Allan NO KITS BY THESE MFGs WILL EVER BE ALLOWED ON THIS SITE. Here is the list of crooked ship model MFGs banned from MSW ZHL RealTS Snail Model XinFeng Crown JD Model LHQK Huasong Shi Cheng woodenkit (Russian MFG) YengFan Unicorn Model YQ (YaunQing) Master CN CF shi hai 4H Model Moxing Microcosm WN Jaocdoen SC DUJIAOSHOU DryDock Models and parts (Canada) selling for companies that pirate. -
If you are using the Lenarth Petersson book Rigging Period Ship Models it does not necessarily apply to the Golden Hind as his book is based on one contemporary model from the 18th century so is not applicable for a ship of the 16th century. Regarding instructions from OcCre, they are not to be trusted without first doing your own research to see what they provide is accurate and what may be their own fantasies. Still, you are to be congratulated on your very neat workmanship!!! Allan
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