allanyed
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Considering the information you have from the kit, you may want to also get hold of the W. E. Mays book on ship's boats which gives actual scantlings for every part of various types of boats from long boats to pinnaces to launches, which is the type of boat Bligh used. Or, you can easily check out the many boats plans at RMG and/or on the Wiki Commons site. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ship_plans_of_the_Royal_Museums_Greenwich From the Pitcairn Museum During the events of the mutiny on the Bounty, three boats were launched: first the jolly boat which was found to be rotten through with worms and would certainly have sunk, then the cutter which also leaked and simply would not hold the large number of loyalists who preferred to go with Bligh, and finally the launch. . . It could be the museum has it wrong, but I would trust them before this kit based on the photos which show a lot of mistakes in their design. Other members here may have some better contemporary information on this, including the various definitions of jolly boats at various times in the ages of sail. Allan -
I had an old block from the early 20th century that is internally stropped and has a sheave that is LV, not brass. Perhaps there were options/choices depending on the circumstance. Allan
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Thanks Shotlocker. Give my regards to Patti's the next time you're having a beer there. Allan
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Thanks Waldemar. The only merchant scantlings I have seen categorized are those that you point out, in Steel. Anyone interested in just those are probably better off to find a copy of the Elements and Practices. To incorporate them into the Scantlings of The Royal Navy book would take a lot of time to reformat the book plus the cost for a new print run for what is likely a very small audience. Then again, isolating and transcribing just the merchant scantlings from Steel might be a good pamphlet size project for someone (you???😀) to do Allan
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Lovely build! I especially like seeing the sheathing "nailed" on rather than the often seen and incorrect plates with 4 inch rivet heads. Allan
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Rigging an anchor - mid 1700's to late 1700's
allanyed replied to LyleK1's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Phil, I had never noticed that scene, so now I have an excuse to watch the movie for perhaps the 50th time. Thanks for the tip!! Allan -
It is sooooo good to be able to see this kind of thing with today's technology. Wasn't the upper most/center spoke handle woven with fancy rope work to indicate when the rudder was straight? Perhaps this was a later practice, but surely something was done to aid the helmsmen, especially in the dark. Allan
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I see that the book is about Pellew and I plan to order it on my Kindle. I read the two fiction series about Thomas Kydd by Stockwin and the Alan Lewrie series by Dewey Lambdin both of which were fun so you might want to give one or both a try if you have not done so already. Allan
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Thanks Waldemar. I have had no interest in the merchant marine since quitting my last ship and walking down her gangplank without looking back over 50 years ago. Maybe there is someone here at MSW that would be interested in tackling such a project. Other than East India Company ships what others would you suggest are included between 1719 and 1805, or would you do a book with a wider spread of time? With all of these ships coming from private owners and shipyards, researching scantlings may be a nigh impossible task. Cheers
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Hi Waldemar You are correct, the book I am referring is not for merchant ships and I purposely did not include information on merchant vessels when preparing it for publication by Sea Watch Books. Cheers Allan
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NAIAD 1797 by Bitao - 1:60
allanyed replied to Bitao's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
The build continues to impress all of us. In addition to your obvious skills, the little things like using different species of wood for the ledges than what was used for the carlings shows them off quite nicely. Your ropewalk looks like a fun project in itself!! Allan -
I had never looked at an MS build log of this cross section. It looks to be a very nice kit and there are some interesting things that show big differences with British ships including planking on the orlop that is fixed in place and has gratings rather than the planks resting in rabbets on the edges of the deck beams for quick and easy removal. Regarding your request for information on shot lockers, there are details in the Fully Framed Model series, HMS Euryalus 1803, The Frigate Naiad, The Construction and Fitting of the Sailing Man of War 1650–1850, et al. They are shown on inboard profile on many contemporary drawings, including some high res images from RMG on the Wiki Commons site. Looking at the picture you posted, they look to be the same as those found in the Royal Navy. Nice work including what looks like some kit bashing for which you should be praised. Allan
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This is great to know. Unfortunately they only have about 50 copies remaining of the 500 limited edition printing. I had heard some years back that there were many more in a warehouse that suffered irreparable damage from damp rot. $850US plus shipping is a hefty price but as they are harder to come by, maybe not a bad investment. Allan
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Tiziano The use of two slightly different shades of wood is brilliant as it shows off how well you did the joinery. Did you use two different species of wood or pieces of the same species from different billets, or??? Thanks Allan
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You sure took on a challenge and did a great job!! What year is your model of Victory depicting? I assume it is prior to Trafalgar but may be wrong. Thanks for sharing!! Allan
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I will be curious to see if the replacement parts are any different. As these are CNC/laser cut, unless they reprogram the tracking of the laser, the problem will remain the same. If you can, send a photo with your request so they can see the problem and make necessary adjustments. MS has a very good reputation for good customer service. Allan
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Most, if not all scratch builders are familiar with the various sources for scantlings, but kit builders would be well served to reference them as well. Steel's tables are part of the book from 1805 so not necessarily applicable to ships built much before then. The Shipbuilders Repository 1788 may be a better alternative or the 1719, 1745, or 1750 Establishment depending on when the ship one is modeling was built. For anyone wanting the entire set of folios and index which is just one small part of David Steel's Elements and Practice of Naval Architecture, the Sim Comfort reprint from 1977 is still found on occasion at Abe Books and other sources for anywhere from $250 to $500US and sometimes higher if the drawing plates are included. Facsimiles of The Shipbuilder's Repository, can be found for about $400, and the 1719, 1745, and 1750 Establishments can be found reprinted on occasion and can be purchased from the RMG. Scantlings of the Royal Navy 1719-1805 has all of these and is is offered from Seawatch Books for $45 new. The merchant ship scantlings of the private East India Company are indeed missing in this book as Waldemar correctly points out above but this book was meant to be as the title indicates, Scantlings of the Royal Navy, not the navy and privately owned ships. Allan
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Ropewalk: A Cordage Engineer's Journey Through History
allanyed replied to BenD's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Thanks for posting this, it is an interesting account. Bridon PLC who bought the site in 1989 and immediately closed it is still making at least steel rope in what appear to be modern factories. Allan -
Very neat work at this scale, kudos!!! Just as an FYI for the future, if the guns are rigged in the "stored" position, they would not be run out, but rather would be completely inboard with the muzzle secured up against the inside of the bulwark. The downside is that from a viewing standpoint it would not look nearly as impressive as having the muzzles coming through the gun ports like you (and most of the rest of us) show them. Allan
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You have obvious well-honed skills and Syren does make a beautiful kit! It is a pleasure to see belaying pins and gratings that are to scale versus the often seen bowling pins and grids some other kit makers provide. Do you have your next project in mind? Allan
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Thanks Vaddoc. This reminds of a build of a large rated vessel I saw years ago that was exquisite and used no glue, only treenails. It can be done!!! Allan
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Welcome Brian!! Is this your first build? If it is, you may want to shelve your kit for the time being and look at the multi build series at Model Shipways designed by David Antscherl. It is progressive and will teach you good habits as the instructions and materials are superior. https://modelexpo-online.com/-become-a-shipwright-of-old-a-wooden-boat-3-kit-kombo.html Good luck! Allan
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Thanks for posting your spiling information Vaddoc. What type of glue are you using? The reason I ask is that as you have spiled the planks so well, a minute of holding the plank in place with PVA normally suffices without the need to use clamps which sometimes dents the plank. Allan
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I am very happy to see your success with this model. As a fan of Victory and presumably Nelson, I truly hope you and all your build log followers have taken note of the Trafalgar project in my signature below. Adam is making progress but still needs evidence for the likes of the BBC, Netflix, and other networks that there will be an audience. Please sign up if you have any interest at all in seeing a classic miniseries made about Nelson. Cheers Allan https://trafalgar.tv/
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