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I had never looked at an MS build log of this cross section. It looks to be a very nice kit and there are some interesting things that show big differences with British ships including planking on the orlop that is fixed in place and has gratings rather than the planks resting in rabbets on the edges of the deck beams for quick and easy removal. Regarding your request for information on shot lockers, there are details in the Fully Framed Model series, HMS Euryalus 1803, The Frigate Naiad, The Construction and Fitting of the Sailing Man of War 1650–1850, et al. They are shown on inboard profile on many contemporary drawings, including some high res images from RMG on the Wiki Commons site. Looking at the picture you posted, they look to be the same as those found in the Royal Navy. Nice work including what looks like some kit bashing for which you should be praised. Allan
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This is great to know. Unfortunately they only have about 50 copies remaining of the 500 limited edition printing. I had heard some years back that there were many more in a warehouse that suffered irreparable damage from damp rot. $850US plus shipping is a hefty price but as they are harder to come by, maybe not a bad investment. Allan
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Tiziano The use of two slightly different shades of wood is brilliant as it shows off how well you did the joinery. Did you use two different species of wood or pieces of the same species from different billets, or??? Thanks Allan
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I will be curious to see if the replacement parts are any different. As these are CNC/laser cut, unless they reprogram the tracking of the laser, the problem will remain the same. If you can, send a photo with your request so they can see the problem and make necessary adjustments. MS has a very good reputation for good customer service. Allan
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Most, if not all scratch builders are familiar with the various sources for scantlings, but kit builders would be well served to reference them as well. Steel's tables are part of the book from 1805 so not necessarily applicable to ships built much before then. The Shipbuilders Repository 1788 may be a better alternative or the 1719, 1745, or 1750 Establishment depending on when the ship one is modeling was built. For anyone wanting the entire set of folios and index which is just one small part of David Steel's Elements and Practice of Naval Architecture, the Sim Comfort reprint from 1977 is still found on occasion at Abe Books and other sources for anywhere from $250 to $500US and sometimes higher if the drawing plates are included. Facsimiles of The Shipbuilder's Repository, can be found for about $400, and the 1719, 1745, and 1750 Establishments can be found reprinted on occasion and can be purchased from the RMG. Scantlings of the Royal Navy 1719-1805 has all of these and is is offered from Seawatch Books for $45 new. The merchant ship scantlings of the private East India Company are indeed missing in this book as Waldemar correctly points out above but this book was meant to be as the title indicates, Scantlings of the Royal Navy, not the navy and privately owned ships. Allan
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Ropewalk: A Cordage Engineer's Journey Through History
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Thanks for posting this, it is an interesting account. Bridon PLC who bought the site in 1989 and immediately closed it is still making at least steel rope in what appear to be modern factories. Allan -
Very neat work at this scale, kudos!!! Just as an FYI for the future, if the guns are rigged in the "stored" position, they would not be run out, but rather would be completely inboard with the muzzle secured up against the inside of the bulwark. The downside is that from a viewing standpoint it would not look nearly as impressive as having the muzzles coming through the gun ports like you (and most of the rest of us) show them. Allan
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You have obvious well-honed skills and Syren does make a beautiful kit! It is a pleasure to see belaying pins and gratings that are to scale versus the often seen bowling pins and grids some other kit makers provide. Do you have your next project in mind? Allan
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Welcome Brian!! Is this your first build? If it is, you may want to shelve your kit for the time being and look at the multi build series at Model Shipways designed by David Antscherl. It is progressive and will teach you good habits as the instructions and materials are superior. https://modelexpo-online.com/-become-a-shipwright-of-old-a-wooden-boat-3-kit-kombo.html Good luck! Allan
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I am very happy to see your success with this model. As a fan of Victory and presumably Nelson, I truly hope you and all your build log followers have taken note of the Trafalgar project in my signature below. Adam is making progress but still needs evidence for the likes of the BBC, Netflix, and other networks that there will be an audience. Please sign up if you have any interest at all in seeing a classic miniseries made about Nelson. Cheers Allan https://trafalgar.tv/
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Rigging an anchor - mid 1700's to late 1700's
allanyed replied to LyleK1's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Not sure, but perhaps Lavery or Goodwin have some details. The photos of the contemporary models in Lees' book are pretty detailed. Again I am stuck without my books while away on vacation so not much help. Below are some photos of contemporary models at Preble Hall that I took some years back that may help you. Allan -
Rigging an anchor - mid 1700's to late 1700's
allanyed replied to LyleK1's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Which anchors Lyle? I believe there should be four at the bow, two port, two starboard. There are a number of detailed drawings, photos and text in David Lees' book for one. I am not near my books or would give you some better explanation. Hopefully some member can help with some details for you without violating Mr. Lees copyrights. Allan -
A method for making panelled sails using paper
allanyed replied to Cathead's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Cathead, You of course are totally correct. This is a hobby to bring enjoyment, and if art rather than realism is the goal, that is a great thing. Whatever gives joy is what counts, and there is probably as much variation in what brings that joy as there are members here. Regarding a goal for accuracy, mine is for 100% but I know full well that will never happen. But, the challenge and of course the frustration that comes with such an unreachable goal remains until I will have to hang it up one of these days. Cheers, Allan- 49 replies
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Something new everyday! 😀 It appears to be a combination of a framing disposition and planking expansion. Very interesting when compared to the more common disposition and expansion drawings like those found at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ship_plans_of_the_Royal_Museums_Greenwich#/media/File:'Aquilon'_(1786),_(also_spelt_Aquillon_or_Acquillon)_RMG_J7958.png and https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-83495 which shows both inboard and outboard planking details. Allan
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A method for making panelled sails using paper
allanyed replied to Cathead's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
I believe Eberhard is totally correct, and take it further to say any kind of sewing on sails at scales smaller than 1:24 or possibly 1:36 is a great way to ruin an otherwise fine model. Allan- 49 replies
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Over the top!! You are leading us on a ride that is more fun than anything at Disneyland!!! Regarding the hinges, did you make the hollow tube in which the pins go or were you able to find hollow tube stock from which to work? Are the plate and tubes and plate and pins soft soldered or silver soldered? THANKS Allan
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Hi Peter, What ship? I know you were building Endeavour but not sure if that is the case in this post. Petersson's book is based on one contemporary model so it may not be useful for other ships and periods of time, including Endeavour. David Lees' book covers a span of time that is more useful and includes several diagrams and descriptions of belaying points for the running rigging. I would look up what he shows but am away from my books for a week or so. Allan
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Gary, Thanks for posting. The contemporary drawing you show is from the RMG and can be seen at both https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-86382 and at the Wiki Commons site as you mention https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Ship_plans_of_the_Royal_Museums_Greenwich&fileuntil=Experiment+(1774)+RMG+J3479.jpg#/media/File:Endeavour_(1768)_RMG_J2052.png and is clearly showing the beams resting on the clamp, not going between frames. Allan
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Johnathon, a warm welcome to the fray. Good for you doing a build log on the first build and seeking advice. You will likely get more advice than you hoped for, but we are all well intentioned even if sometimes not in agreement. Question every piece that comes out of the box before securing it place from planking to gratings, cannons to sails. Looking forward to your progress Allan
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