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A beautifully methodical build, Patrick! -
I have used professional museum and art object movers in the past. They are bonded and insured and are used to packing, crating and moving delicate items. However, they are not cheap.
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ancre Chebece 1750 by Jeronimo - FINISHED
druxey replied to Jeronimo's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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I knew that your hull planking was individually laid with self-adhesive foil, but not the decks as well. Impressive!
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Questions, questions - always more questions! I agree that those slides would have been ideal to hold the lower halfport/washboard. With gravity, there would be no need to hinge them. I still feel that a ready source of splinters would have been stowed away when clearing for action. The upper halves must have been detachable.
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I get it. Fortunately, my wife has a dread of sharp-edged or noisy tools.
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I didn't realize that the decks are individually laid strips. Beautifully done.
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Surely the half-ports, if fitted, would have been removed and stowed away for combat?
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A truly talented couple, then!
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I hate to criticize a lovely job but, to my eye, the run of plank into the bow rabbet looks a little steep. Is the top of the main wale at the correct height or a little too high? If it's not exactly right (as I discovered from personal experience) the headwork will not sit correctly at the bow. Hopefully it's just due to camera angle or distortion.
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The Wylie painting is 20th century, so he may have been mistaken in showing half-lids to the ports. The lid thickness in the painting is suspect as well! However, the image is full of atmosphere and activity.
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Are you planning on leaving the model au naturel or will you be painting her?
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Complex and very neat!
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The size of that recovered deadeye is strange. The photos show a groove about 11cm in diameter, or a little over 4" This implies that the line around the deadeye would be in the order of 12". According to Steel, a 100 (or 110) gun ship had 17" deadeyes and 11" shrouds. Is it possible that this artifact did not, in fact, come from Colossus?
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Lovely, work Mark. But why the lightning bolt, pray tell?
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Looks like some substantial progress, Gary.
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OK, I've rotated things to a more 'normal' point of view. No more cricked necks! I hope this simplifies things for our discussion.
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That is exactly as I thought and tried to say about the 3 1/2" measurement! Language...the greatest barrier to communication! Thank you, Archnav. It was what the lining was that confused me before.
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I just saw the sketch you posted: I've never seen this sketch before. Interesting!
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Liebe Archnav, Perhaps a small sketch will help me understand better what you mean by "the distance of the end of the outside planking to the port on the surface of the frame, and the same distance from the topside of the planking beneath the port on the surface of the lower sill." I'm glad we agree on the 'bumper' issue! Similar fittings, but with a central hole, were used with 'inside principle' carronade mounts for the traverse pins. Mit grusse
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So, if I understand correctly Archnav, you think that the port lid thickness was 3 1/2" and the inner layer of the lid was 1 1/8" thick? Diving into Caruana, he refers to the 1795 pattern carriage as having projecting 'horns' from the front of the brackets (side pieces) at the height of the lower sill (Volume II, page 379 et seq). These acted as a kind of bumper. The official title was a "breast ended preventer cleated" carriage. One may then presume that the bumper/stop beam/preventer piece seen across the lower edge of Colossus' port is a fore-runner of this later development.
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My! That is a lot of 'ironwork' to manufacture, Ed! Beautifully done, too.
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Here's my (limited) understanding. The port stops mentioned in Steel (Folio XXV) are 3 1/2" thick. As the measurements given of the stops for other large ships range from 3 1/2" to 3", I doubt that it is a misprint. A substantial stop would make sense for watertightness in rough seas. After all, the freeboard was only about 6' 0". But to me, the interesting part are the battens on each side of the port. I agree that they must be for boards to slot into. Steel's tables (Folio XXVI) call for Well seasoned linings fitted into the stops, thick 1 1/8" (for a 74 gun ship). I'd long wondered what 'linings' were. Those must be the 'washboards' in this discussion!
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Roger's suggestion is also a good one. White or yellow glue can be used, soluble in isopropanol; or rubber cement, soluble in naphtha.
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