knightyo

I'd love to see more discussion on this topic!  I'm considering the liquid Bitumen approach... Not sure where to get it in US tho...  I do see Pentart Liquid Patina in the UK tho...

Alan

I'm also now debating my plank width in general. What general width do you guys things the king plank should be, as well as the standard planks?  It looks like gundeck planks could be up to 12', but that king planks were also 12'?  

Alan

Thanks guys!  I'm good to go with the hooked plank concept, and have already drawn out a planking pattern.  Now I'll re-draw the pattern incorporating planks narrowing towards the stem.  I'll post in this thread when done. (I'm also going to tell my wife tonight that I'm a master shipwright). 

Alan

Hello,

I'm tinkering with the HMS Triton in my free time, and am thinking about the deck planking patterns.  I understand that the deck planks would narrow as they approached the stem.  Does anyone know to what degree the planks narrowed?  

Alan

Hi Jorge,

Unfortunately not.  For the past few years (actually a LOT of years!) I've only been able to work in short spurts...  I have however, decided to modify the deck planking plan I developed above, and indeed taper the planks as they move towards the bow.  

Alan

Those guns are magnificent.

Alan

I feel like an underachiever.  I didn't even think about firearms or explosives.  I just used rocks...😕

I will say that I immolated one of my old smurf houses when I realized that I was a little too old for them.  That was extremely satisfying at least.....

Alan

That is gorgeous.

Alan

Thanks Mark.  I think you are right.  Once it's done, I can decide whether or not to do the same with the upper decks..

So I had a bit of fun the other day drawing out the deck planking.  I felt that 1/8" planks were a reasonable width, so went with that.  I can't remember if I'd mentioned before why I'm planking the lower deck, as it won't be able to be seen due to the upper decks.  The reasoning behind this is that I believe I need the practice.  It will also be a chance to experiment with new wood, and to experiment with methods of trennailing.  If I don't like the finished look, I can modify things for the upper decks, and only we will know!

With the end of the planks =1/3 of the plank width and the length of snipe = less than twice the width of the plank, I ended up with the below result incorporating the king plank. But.... I didn't narrow the planks as they moved towards the stem/stern.  If I had done so, they would be awfully narrow as they ended.  Thoughts?  Would it be truly inaccurate to plank the deck without narrowing the planks at the ends?  It would be pretty easy for me to erase things and start over.  I really do want the planking to be as accurate as possible.  (I  haven't yet drawn the scarfs in the margin planks, or corrected the ultra-thin planks against the margin plank in the mid ship sections. Also have not yet determined whether or not to go with a 3 or 4 plank shift).  

It might be somewhat torturous, but how about building/painting BOTH sets of aircraft?  That would allow you to change them out annually, or whenever the whim strikes!  They won't be adhered to the deck, will they?

Alan

Is it possible to like a post around 20 times?  I'm really looking forward to this one.

Alan

Looks like Danny incorporated a king plank as well.  I don't think I can go wrong following his and Chuck's lead, and will start drawing the decking plan accordingly.

Ok, I should have the opportunity tomorrow to draw out the Lower Deck planking pattern.... Chuck's Confederacy plans call for a single plank to run down the center of the deck, and planking outward from the "king" plank to both sides to the bulwarks.  What is the general consensus for Triton? Would it have had the king plank in the center? As I look at the cross section midships .pdf, it looks like there is not a king plank in the center....

Alan

14 hours ago, bglithero said:

 

I started taking some photos with the intentions of compiling a build log when I was happy I wasn't going to embarrass myself.

 

This made me lol and lol.  I have a few of these projects as well.  😀

The ship looks great so far!

Alan

I also built this model as a kid. It was the neatest model of the bunch!

Alan

20 hours ago, RGL said:

What Canute said 

Agreed.  I'd love to see the Akagi.

Alan

Hi Jacek,

By looking at the templates (Stern Part Legend, SternParts & Upper Counter Planking), you should be able to mark out the stern areas pretty well.  The below pic also shows the numbers of planks in each area on a similar sized ship.. (similar, but definitely not exact).. Not sure if the number of planks in each area of the Triton would be the same, but I think it would be pretty close..  I don't have the Anatomy of a Ship Series covering frigates, unfortunately.  I'll bet that would show the exact planking structure....(Hint for anyone who has that book to please look  )

Alan

(Photo reference is from http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/yimcatholic/files/2011/10/HMS-Surprise.jpeg)

The stern timbers were kinda fun.  On mine, I inserted "filler" limewood pieces between each timber, which made it pretty easy to achieve a smooth surface for future planking.  The photos in my journal look horrifying, but the surface is actually very smooth. 

Aaln

Hi Jacek, 

I can't wait to see how your lower deck fits between the frames, especially in the bow section.  I had "challenges" in that area..

Alan

10 hours ago, Chuck said:

Wood Project source is no longer in business.  They just havent taken the website down yet.   

 

For really great maple stock.  Use http://www.ocoochhardwoods.com

 

Just send them an email with the list of thicknesses you need if they arent shown in their store.   The wood is very good.  Great prices.  I wont offer Cherry or Maple because this guy and a few others like National Balsa offer great product at prices I cant compete with in teh US.  Just an FYI.

 

Chuck

 

Thanks Chuck!  (I haven't forgotten about Syren either). 😊

Hi Jacek,

I've used basswood (I think it's known as limewood in your area?) for everything so far, since it's so easy to shape/sand.  It's a great "filler" type of wood.   I'll be using pear wood however, for anything visible, and maple for the deck planking.   I do think a person could probably plank the entire lower decks with 1/8" x 1/16" basswood/limewood planks, as they wouldn't be as visible, and could easily be stained.  They are very inexpensive, pre-cut, and easy to use.  In fact, a person could build the entire ship in basswood/limewood, and stain/paint to their preference.  I just really like the look of pear wood, and how it can be treated to look "old". 

I also do still intend on posting a sample deck planking pattern for people to critique when I'm able to start building again.  

One or more of the templates in the cross-section download area shows a view of the ends of the planks so you can scale the templates to 1:64 and measure the correct thickness/width.

Alan

I thought it was funny that Bubblehead didn't object to question #2.😀

Lol @ no to Q2. 😀

It's going to be a lot of fun to see the bulkheads assembled!  Hopefully I'll be back home in a month or so, and can make some progress as well..

Alan

Hi Jacek,

I am also hopeful for responses to your questions, as I have the same questions! I'll be plodding along behind you as life allows me free time to build...

Alan