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Is that a ship's boy perched way out at the end of the bowsprit where the jibboom looks to have been cut of flush? Looks like a child to me.

Careful about her waterline there in that picture. It looks to me like there's an overboard discharge of some sort just below and abaft the fluke of that stbd anchor. It seems to be splashing the hull. You can see the darker wet region just above the waterline forward of there but the hull is wet a little higher where the water is splashing into the harbour there. There's also wet hull darkness below the outlet trailing aft. Leads me to believe there may have been wind coming from ahead at some point shortly before that picture was taken. Also makes the shape of her waterline there a little tricky to see.

Ah. Cool. Thanks. I wonder what the etymology of it is in French. Quarter Galleries are a gallery on the quarter of the ship so that's easy but why "Bottle" in French?

The rake of your masts looks a little suspect to my eye. Her masts were raked 1 degree more for each mast moving aft. While the main and mizzen might be 1 degree apart, the mizzen looks raked dramatically different than the main and fore. I'm loving the build though. Cheers, Daniel

Actually, I think he means the spindles above the quarter galleries. They are somewhat "bottle" shaped individually after all.

That's some nice looking shipbuilding you've got there. I think there's something lost in translation though. What are the "bottles" you refer to?

Once a digital model of her hull shape has been created as best can be done with what is known about her today, is it possible for the digital program to incorporate the hog we know was measured? That way, photos of her later in life could be set behind the digital model and compared. That would tell us if the suspicion that the hog has altered the angle of her cutwater is correct and by how much.

Noise transmits exceptionally well through water as most of us already know. Sitting in Halifax Harbour in one of our patrol frigates, I could hear someone's Sonar Pinging. They were conducting trials of some sort and it was irritating beyond belief. In a submarine, you can hear vessels transiting overhead. Not something we like to do but when someone does sail over us (they don't know we're under them) it's quite obvious. The most interesting noise I heard from safe depth was a helicopter passing over head. Yes, the noise of the Helo transmitted through the water, down to our submarine, through the hull and into our ears. One of our Sonar Operators told of a port visit to Bermuda where he met up with a buddy from one of our frigates. He asked him what the problem was with one of the shaft lines. The buddy was flabbergasted that he knew they had sustained damage to one of the shafts because it had just happened. Apparently, it was audible and easily distinguished that ship from any of the other frigates in the area. This is all metal stuff. Wooden ships, as mentioned above, there's a lot of creaking and groaning. You can hear the wind from below and depending on the size of the vessel, you can hear people walking above your head. Larger vessels have decks thick enough that it gets hard to hear. The suggestion of listening to Master and Commander is probably one of the best ones. It's understood by most to be the single most accurate portrayal of war and I seem to recall it was nominated and may have won some awards for sound work. The sound in that movie is amazing. The sound of roundshot coming inboard.... they filmed balls crashing through planking from downrange and used that in the movie so it's exactly what balls sound like crashing through timber. They recorded each different size of gun shooting ball, chain, grape..... each has it's own unique sound and they incorporated them accurately in the movie. Best movie ever if you ask me.

Any update on Bismarck so we know when we can expect an update on Victory?

I suspect the Admins may need to move it for you. Or they could at least explain what you need to do. Glad I don't have to figure that out. Cheers, Daniel

I love the detail you're putting into the cabin. Articles below decks etc. Looks awesome. But why is she in the 1900-present day folder? She was rebuilt as a dilapidated old boat by Slocum in the 1890s. Not sure when in the 1800s she was built but she wasn't even rebuilt by him in the last century.

I agree, those sails are absolutely amazing. A tutorial would be nice. And more pics of course.

I don't have the skills. I am hoping to build them up soon but I don't think Glory is in my future. More a suggestion in case someone else with the skills might be interested. I think it would yield some good/interesting information though.

I looks like a big part of figuring out her shape is determining angles, lengths, distances etc. from photos that may not be exactly angled perfectly parallel, or perpendicular to whatever you're trying to measure. Has anyone tried building a 3D model of her then viewing it from the angle in a given photo to see if it looks the same thereby confirming your best guess as to what the angle of say the steeve of the bowsprit is?

So when are you starting Stephano? Looks awesome. Great work.

I see you placed deck planking under the forward trucks of the guns to get them to the proper height. Is that temporary until you lay the decking or will you be leaving it open like this? Stunning work you've done. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks. I'll have to look back through the thread to find that part. Cheers, Daniel

Nice work. I have a question about Crows feet and euphroes. Anyone know what purpose they serve?

Oh, that would be an interesting comparison to see side by side.

Looks like the tuck for finishing off the grommet was tucked somewhere around the 8 o'clock position. Nice job.

Car guys call it a "rotissery restoration" as the setup is essentially a rotissery. I see no reason why that can't be done for this ship.

Quick question.... Are you planning to build the ship that was used for the movie, or the actual Surprise which isn't quite exactly the same as the one used in the movie. I think for a start, there aren't enough guns for HMS Rose/Surprise, to be the historical HMS Surprise.

Cool project. I suspect you can expect this log to be moved by the Admins to the CAD section. I'll follow along though.

Glenn, I've done some research on Scottish Maid and am led to believe there were a number of sisterships built because of her successful design. Do you know anything about this? Also saw that she was around until 1941 which surprised me. I wonder why there aren't more pictures of her....

Nice work Terry, I can't imagine how hard it would be to create a 7 bladed scimitar shaped screw like that. The boats I sailed in (Victoria class) have a similar screw and looking up at it in dock while "sputtifying" (SPUT stands for skimmer puke under training in our navy) I couldn't wrap my head around the design work that goes into them.