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Cutty Sark by Cuda1949
Sailor1234567890 replied to Cuda1949's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
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I think I can explain his nonsense comment. Or, at least, there's a part of me that wonders why "which is the best" questions were broken down into plans, quality etc, while the "which is the worst" question lumped all subcategories into one question. Chuck, maybe you could separate them into individual questions for the worst kit questions as well? Just a thought. I still find the information informative and will certainly keep it in mind when buying a kit in the future.
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Could be, I think she was rearmed a few times throughout the books. I think at one point she carried her long gns as internal ballast and could rearm herself if required.
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That sounds about right to me. From the reading I've done on her, the original had the 36 gun ship's mast. And 32lb carronades as her main armament with a few chase guns. Pretty much what Jack sailed. She really was a special ship in real life, not just in the books.
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Ed, have you any hints as to what your next project is going to be?
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The level of detail this scale affords in pretty mind blowing. Those two shots, 5 and 7 in post 290. Beautifully executed.
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The fish tackle is indeed to fish the anchor up from over the side.
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What is the purpose of the moused up stays? I see that it keeps the eye formed from closing tight on the mast as slack is taken up but is there another purpose? I'm more knowledgeable about later ships.
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But she should post to this one.
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It is. Lubbock has a lot of good sailing ship stuff. Quite prolific. And interesting. To me at least.
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10 shot per gun sounds like a small number of rounds but I suppose one would normally use solid shot and not bar chain grape etc. My french is good but not perfect so a few of the more technical comments probably went over my head. I'll have look at my copy of Boudriot's 74 gun ship. I have all 4 at my other house and will look it up in english when I next go check on it. Your progress is stupendous Gaetan.My apologies for so much thread drift but I am genuinely curious about these little details that come to light. Cheers, Daniel.
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Another question of shot and shot lockers has come to mind as I read Patrick O'brian's Ionian Mission. As Worcester 74 glides into a bay to deal with a french force, Captain Aubrey orders bar and chain shot. I'm quite familiar with what it is and what it does but what arrangements were made in the ship to store bar and chain shot? I can't imagine they would mix it all in together in one locker. Or did they?
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I agree, there needs to be a way to get them out. I'm just wondering if the rungs were not perhaps more beefy than what a typical ladder might be? Or perhaps they are recessed into the side? The plans don't seem to show that, they show rungs as you have them but I suspect they would be subject to damage from falling shot as it were if they were not beefy enough. And maybe they are beefy enough. Would 32 lb balls dropped from that height break off the rungs? I think it might but maybe it wouldn't. On this note, were different caliber of balls stored in different shot lockers or were they divided to accept balls of a variety of sizes? The lower deck guns were normally larger than the middle and upper deck guns so it makes sense that in a line of battle ship, there would be several shot lockers, at least one for each size of shot. A two decker might have two different sized guns on her upper and lower gun decks but then there are carronades, chasers, upper deck guns (long nines perhaps) and each of those might be a different caliber again. How many shot lockers are there in a ship this size? There's a lot of weight of shot. A single broadside from a 74 given 28 guns on the lower gun deck of 24 lbs and 28 on the upper gun deck of 18 lbs would weigh 1176 lbs. A conservative estimate of 4 shot (likely more) next to each gun as ready use in the shot garlands amounts to 4 704 lbs of shot spread about the ship. And that's just the broadside guns. Doesn't count the carronades, chasers, AX/FX guns, chasers etc. Having shot for a number of engagements means literally tons of shot in the garlands plus much more in the lockers. It's a lot of weight to contend with. It's a lot of calibers to contend with. I recall studying battle ship evolution and the history of the dreadnoughts (I'm a naval officer so it's professional curiosity of course) and a big problem they had at first was with spotting fall of shot. Smaller guns can be worked faster so the spotter had to be careful about what shot he was spotting. There tended to be significant confusion about what guns were being spotted and that brought in the era of the "all big gun" ships so they didn't have smaller guns and larger guns shot falling in the same places and confusing the spotters.
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