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I hope you didn't take my comment as a criticism. I too am greatly enjoying your build(s). Still have an old CS 1:96 Revell hull for you on the condition you do something really cool with it.
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Doris, Out of curiosity, what does Royal Katherine weigh at this point? I imagine she's pretty heavy even though she's made of mostly paper....
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That painting in your post #630... I don't think she's coming about in that image. I think she's hove to in order to take that tug that's off her starboard side.
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Ed, Back to the subject of the lovely photo of the top showing the lines led through the fairlead board in the top.... Do you have an image showing a little lower? I'm curious where the lines pass through the shrouds and how they do so as they are clearly outboard of the shrouds and ratlines in that image but we all know they belay below to the pins on the rail inboard of the shrouds. Thanks, Daniel
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Cheesed lines like that are used decoratively. For inspections. They're impractical for daily use though. The first problem is they aren't free to run, they'll kink as they run through a block which is decidedly bad because each turn around the cheese ads a kink to the line. Next problem is that they get wet and the deck rots beneath them. Again, decidedly bad.
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Saw today in the National (Scottish newspaper) that there's a contract to bring Falls of Clyde home to the Clyde to be refurbished and sent to sea as a green cargo carrier, sail training vessel, plastic collection and processing plant..... There's hope for her after all. :)
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Rob, Are you saying that GR's courses would not have been set on the run down the coast? At 120 foot they are massive of course. I wonder what they would have weighed? How deep were they? Handling sails of that size would have been one heck of a lot of work for the crew. How big was the crew? 150 or more? She'd certainly be a sight to see. Anybody know of a rich crazy billionaire who might be interested in footing the bill?
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Those were my thoughts as well. No stuns'ls... Too bad. Looking forward to seeing how she turns out though. Were there any other 4 masted extreme clippers built? I don't think so.
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Any mate worth his salt wouldn't bother adjusting the lanyards anyway, that would put the deadeyes out of line. Yes, he can fine tune the rig that way but normally, if any slack developed, the lashing holding the shroud to the upper deadeye was re-made so the deadeyes were always at the same level. It would of course require setting up the lanyards again but the point was to have the deadeyes all level so fine tuning using the lanyards wasn't really done. As Mr. Cleek said above, they were normally not very slack. It was a periodic maintenance thing to adjust them, not a piece of running rigging that was adjusted with any frequency. Love your progress, she's on beautiful ship. Probably my favourite American Clipper. Cutty Sark being my favourite.
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MONTAÑES by Amalio
Sailor1234567890 replied to Amalio's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
It would appear to me that there is enough information out there for some rich guy to actually build one full scale if he so desired. The work here is incredible. I love seeing your progress. Cheers, Daniel -
I hate to hijack your thread but how do you transition between the square portion and the rounded portion on your turnings of the clock pieces? They look very well done. I have heard that part is very hard to do but I have yet to turn anything like that. It's on my list of things to do but I want a bit more practice. I'm turning black locust which is incredibly hard. Tools need sharpening all the time. Thanks for any advice and the gun carriage is looking great. Look forward to seeing it completed.
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I love a small brig. Looking forward to following along and seeing your progress on her. Cheers, Daniel
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So.... Ed.... Whatcha gonna build next? This is, as Maury said above, incredibly detailed. I can't imagine being able to get half the results you get if I had 10 lifetimes to do it in. Cheers, Daniel
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OH, I must have misinterpreted then. Yes, she is most certainly one heck of a beautiful ship. I'm more a fan of the smaller British clippers, Cutty Sark in particular but for the most part both the earlier American and the British clippers that came 20 or so years later look the same. Sleek lines, graceful towering rigs and driven JUST to the breaking point and hopefully no further. Damage to rigging was all too common though as evidence that they were driven extremely hard. I'd put forth that they were driven harder than the iron and steel ocean carriers of the next generation. The iron and steel carriers could take more punishment but they weren't pushed quite as hard as the graceful clippers were. Almost, but not quite. Keep at it Ed, we all love your work. Sorry for the thread drift. Cheers, Daniel
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Rob, I completely agree with everything except one statement. I don't think they were the ultimate in strength to withstand the punishing their masters gave them. I think that palm goes to the iron and steel ocean carriers of the next generation. Pamir, Padua, Garthsnaid etc. Otherwise, your statements are eminently correct in my mind. I say this with a very strong preference for clippers over the later ocean carriers. Clippers were the ultimate sailing ship design in my mind. Beauty, speed, grace. They had it all. Now we have box like super tankers and container ships that can carry infinitely more cargo with a fraction the crew size but where's the fun in that? Keep building Ed, your work is outstanding and I love to watch the progress, dreaming that one day someone might actually build one of these and show the world what it was like at sea in them.
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A 5x4" section of iron almost 4 feet long? CRAZY huge compared to my little topmast fids.
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The P shaped block and the other larger block are my topmast fids. A lanyard hole is required yet but it is much more rectangular than square. Parral beads, parral dividers, belaying pins, my newly turned carving mallet and a centreboard cleat at the bottom of the image are the other bits you see there. It's all Black Locust, my favourite wood. Sorry, it's 1:1 scale.
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Those fid holes look square. I would have envisioned the fids rectangular in section and therefore taller than they are wide.
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Having narrowed down the conversation to French and English, we've neglected the Spanish ships. Montanes I understand had the beauty and sailing qualities of the French ships but the strength and longevity of the English. Anybody know about the Spanish 74s and are willing to weigh in on them?
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Brass plated pedestals? I built a 1:96 Revell CS in probably the late 80s/early 90s. It certainly didn't have brass plated pedestals. Looks like that's a much nicer kit than the later production runs. I purchased another one on Ebay, maybe 8-10 years ago. It's partially finished, ready for rigging at this point. Again, no brass plated pedestals.
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