kees de mol Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share #31 Posted October 4, 2015 (edited) Cooling at the outside of the hul. I also finishes the bowplate and some other things. Just decided to make a keel also before making the moulds. Than every hull will be complete with keel. Edited September 26, 2017 by kees de mol yvesvidal, Piet, flying_dutchman2 and 16 others 19 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 5, 2015 Share #32 Posted October 5, 2015 Aren't you at the point of "overdetailing" your plug? The ditance betrween those stripes is so small, i wonder whether you will get a nice mould/hull out of that without a lot of problems of not fully filled details after pouring your hull. Jan Piet and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailorGreg Posted October 5, 2015 Share #33 Posted October 5, 2015 (edited) Aren't you at the point of "overdetailing" your plug? The ditance betrween those stripes is so small, i wonder whether you will get a nice mould/hull out of that without a lot of problems of not fully filled details after pouring your hull. Jan I agree. I am sorry to sound negative, but you are putting a lot of effort into the plug and it would be a shame to spoil it all because you either lose the detail in the mould or you find you cannot separate the mould from the plug. Remember the mould will be a hard shell, not a flexible shape. It must pull free from all the details in a single rigid piece. If there are details that trap the mould on the plug you will damage either the mould or the plug pulling them apart. Damaging the plug probably doesn't matter if the mould is good - but you will then have the same problem when you try and take a hull from the mould. It makes no difference that the mould is in two halves if there is an "undercut" in the details that will trap or damage the moulding. At the very least use lots of release wax! Greg Edited October 5, 2015 by SailorGreg Piet, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted October 5, 2015 Share #34 Posted October 5, 2015 the plug is looking good. I can't wait to see the first hull out of the mold. How many do you plan to make? Bob cog, Omega1234, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 5, 2015 Share #35 Posted October 5, 2015 Though Jan and Greg have a good point, I like your approach Bob!!! So how many are you planning on making, Cees??? Piet, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kees de mol Posted October 5, 2015 Author Share #36 Posted October 5, 2015 Only Time Will Tell. I have seen much more detailed plugs with no problems but I will report it when thing wont go like I planned. Regards, Kees flying_dutchman2, mtaylor, mikegerber and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted October 6, 2015 Share #37 Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) I was Just wondering, you're the expert Jan Edited October 6, 2015 by amateur Piet, Omega1234 and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kees de mol Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share #38 Posted December 2, 2015 you're the expert Was that one below the belt, Jan? I have never pretended to be an expert. When one builds form scratch one hase to make choices and take risks. I have watched orther people building moulds and after carefully considering all the pro's and con's I dicided to do it the way I do now. I have good faith that it will work but it is exciting for me too. I hope you enioy my buid and support me in my efforts to build this ship. O ja Daar bij komt nog dat ik stront, maar dan ook stront eigenwijs ben FreekS, Omega1234, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kees de mol Posted December 2, 2015 Author Share #39 Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) More work done on the KW88. Prepare the moulds for laminating. It will be a two part mould. First I will prepare and laminate the first half and after that I will remove the wooden plate and laminate the second half. I have never done this before so it will be exciting. It will take some weeks before I can show the results. Edited September 26, 2017 by kees de mol mikegerber, popeye the sailor, cog and 16 others 19 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted December 2, 2015 Share #40 Posted December 2, 2015 WOW, Kees... this one looks good. I just pulled up a chair and will follow the built. Great work, so far. Marc Omega1234, Piet, kees de mol and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted December 3, 2015 Share #41 Posted December 3, 2015 Ah yes, I see what your plan is Cees. I figured already that the two half mold method is the only way to be able to separate the molds from this quite busy plug. Good thinking Cees and I'm sure it'll work. Cheers, mtaylor, kees de mol, flying_dutchman2 and 3 others 6 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted December 3, 2015 Share #42 Posted December 3, 2015 Your preparations for the mold look good, I'm sure you'll do fine and have a mold you can use many times. Bob Piet, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burroak Posted December 3, 2015 Share #43 Posted December 3, 2015 Kees I just found your build log. This is gonna be great. I haven't seen anyone do this type of build before. I am pulling up a chair to watch your build. Greg H. mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote GREG H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 5, 2015 Share #44 Posted December 5, 2015 You're ageing very fast Crackers! (two days ago you looked quite young, although a bit tired) Perhaps you should see your GP.... Jan Piet, avsjerome2003 and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kees de mol Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share #45 Posted December 5, 2015 (edited) Hello Everybody. Working on the wheelhouse. Lots of work and time but very rewarding. Edited September 26, 2017 by kees de mol SailorGreg, Bobstrake, mikegerber and 16 others 19 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 5, 2015 Share #46 Posted December 5, 2015 Hello Kees, Can you give some details on that tool you have attached to your table. It looks like a very usefull one for making windows. Did you buy t, or is it completely selfmaed? Jan avsjerome2003, Omega1234, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 5, 2015 Share #47 Posted December 5, 2015 Jan, Have a look here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12163-diy-router-machine/ Kees, Can you add to that DIY Router Machine to show how to mount it? Interesting tool... Omega1234 and Piet 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 5, 2015 Share #48 Posted December 5, 2015 Hi Mark, Thanks for the link. missed that one. Jan Omega1234 and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kees de mol Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share #49 Posted December 5, 2015 Can you give some details on that tool you have attached to your table. Hello Jan. I see you allready found the topic I made about the tool. It's selfmade and if I can help you with more info or pics just give a shout. Can you add to that DIY Router Machine to show how to mount it? Interesting tool... I added a photo to the topic. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 8, 2015 Share #50 Posted December 8, 2015 very nice progress Kees...interesting that you made two mtaylor, Omega1234 and Piet 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kees de mol Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share #51 Posted December 8, 2015 Its for when I am drunk again. When I see double the two images of the models will blend into one Piet, captainbob, avsjerome2003 and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 9, 2015 Share #52 Posted December 9, 2015 perhaps a sister ship. the albatross ? Omega1234, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted December 10, 2015 Share #53 Posted December 10, 2015 Hi Kees I hope the client for the second hull is just as chuffed as we are. Great job so far. Cheers Patrick mtaylor and Piet 2 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 10, 2015 Share #54 Posted December 10, 2015 he'd better be ! Jan Omega1234, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kees de mol Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share #55 Posted December 10, 2015 Well I believe they are. I feel honored to build the models for them. They are two hardworking fishermen on the ship. The models are very important for them. The thing is. Now I am building two... why not three? Two for the fishermen and one for me. Have to think about that mtaylor, Piet, hexnut and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainbob Posted December 11, 2015 Share #56 Posted December 11, 2015 The thing is. Now I am building two... why not three? Two for the fishermen and one for me. Have to think about that That's the advantage of building a mold. Bob Omega1234, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 14, 2015 Share #57 Posted December 14, 2015 that would be treading the same dangerous waters that I seem to be treading..........sounds crazy.........but it sure is fun! Piet, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kees de mol Posted December 14, 2015 Author Share #58 Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Hello fellow shipbuilders, Meanwhile I made the roof and the so-called "Pet" and that makes the bridge really complete. It was very hard to find the correct shape and it took me more cardboard and ps plate than I wanted. But at the end it worked out well. Edited September 26, 2017 by kees de mol tadheus, gieb8688, Mfelinger and 14 others 17 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted December 15, 2015 Share #59 Posted December 15, 2015 Hello fellow shipbuilders, Meanwhile I made the roof and the so-called "Pet" and that makes the bridge really complete. It was very hard to find the correct shape and it took me more cardboard and ps plate than I wanted. But at the end it worked out well. If you look closely you can still see something I've been working on. Something which will be nearly vissible when the model is ready. Hi Kees Mmmm....I wonder. Is it the internal accommodation of the cabins that you're also going to be building??? Cheers Patrick Piet, tadheus, kees de mol and 8 others 11 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 15, 2015 Share #60 Posted December 15, 2015 Looks like it, yes. Jan Piet, mtaylor, kees de mol and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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