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Golden Hind (ex-Pelican) by Baker - FINISHED - scale 1/45 - Galleon late 16th century


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As always Patrick -- fun to follow and learn

 

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Oh dear. Sorry for putting you to all that extra work - that's certainly not what I intended. Still, I think you're doing the right thing and you'll end up happier with it.

 

Steven

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12 hours ago, G.L. said:

Patrick,

 

 

You are surely on the right track!

 

6 hours ago, md1400cs said:

As always Patrick -- fun to follow and learn

 

Thanks for the positive comments

5 hours ago, Louie da fly said:

Oh dear. Sorry for putting you to all that extra work - that's certainly not what I intended. Still, I think you're doing the right thing and you'll end up happier with it.

 

Steven

No worries.
This is going to look much better then my first idea 

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Update,

The outside of the forecastle is ready. The doors will be made later and a ladder will be provided later in the castle itself .

 

A tricky part

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Tricky part is ready, painting

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Saw at the right height (and dust prevention with tape)

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Work in progress

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Ready

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There is a proper tool for every job.
A file is not a chisel :default_wallbash:  (I learned this in the technical school when I was 12years old...)

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revenge:10_1_10:   part removed the hard way

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Thanks for following

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Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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Lovely crisp work, Patrick.

 

I bet the piece of wood just died of fright when it saw that big spanner. If at first you don't succeed . . . use a bigger hammer.

 

 

 

Steven

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4 minutes ago, Louie da fly said:

Lovely crisp work, Patrick.

 

I bet the piece of wood just died of fright when it saw that big spanner. If at first you don't succeed . . . use a bigger hammer.

 

 

 

Steven

I thought a sharper chisel ... great work Patrick

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

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  • 2 weeks later...

Thank you all for the nice comments and following

 

I started with the rear castle. The front part will remain open and the rear part is the cabin for officers, here is also the whippstaff.

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Wear due to frequent passage. Some of the crew are too lazy to raise their feet when they go through the door ;)

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2 hanging knees with bolts

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Work in progress

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Thanks for following

 

 

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Thanks.

I live not far from the border with the Netherlands and know many nice Dutch people.

 

Hup Holland,hup ;)

 

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8 hours ago, G.L. said:

Patrick,

 

The wire on the sides of the cabin ceiling, is that for lighting?

Indeed

I'm not really that good with electricity so I bought a ready-made set. The disadvantage is that all lights are at the same distance from each other.
That is why it is sometimes a puzzle to get the lights in the right place.

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cannon deck below

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6 hours ago, peveka said:

Hi Patrick

I just discovered your log and I like it very much. Very detailed, very informative. Thank you for sharing!

Cheers

Pieter

 

Welcome on board Pieter

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14 hours ago, Backer said:

Hup Holland,hup

??? I so enjoy the Red Devils winning. It means some peace and quiet at this side of the border (as you noticed ... I don't like orange)

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

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On 3/18/2019 at 12:24 PM, Backer said:

Wear due to frequent passage. Some of the crew are too lazy to raise their feet when they go through the door ;)

That's a wonderful detail that most wouldn't think of. It's one of those things that makes a model really come alive.

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Thank you everyone for the nice comments.

(Carl, I'm not a fan of football. I also like peace and quiet).


I have added some bolts in the upper wales. 

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Bolts that remain visible on the inside are also fitted. So that it looks that these bolts run through the frame and the wale.

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And i have become the proud owner of some interesting books. First I will read and study before I continue to build

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6 hours ago, Backer said:

I also like peace and quiet).

So Patrick that takes care of September 1 2019 -- F1 Belgium Grand Prix 

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, md1400cs said:

So Patrick that takes care of September 1 2019 -- F1 Belgium Grand Prix 

 

No problem. I have this 🤣 

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  • 3 weeks later...

Back from vacation and learned a lot from my 2 new books.
And, discovered that my model should actually have 2 stern chasers. Most warships and armed merchantmen had these. :default_wallbash:
I might try to add 2 closed canon ports but these are problems for later.

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In the meantime, further work has been done on the rear castle.

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And I started on a capstan. The intention is to build something like this drawing.

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The start A cylindrical piece of cherry wood

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6 square holes approximately at shoulder height or lower.

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Thanks GL

 

Next step is painting the capstan.
A painted (replica) example of the Batavia from the early 17th century was a challenge I couldn't resist.

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Thus, I did an attempt to paint this "color scheme". White is the basic color and red green as the secondary colors.

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The basis on which the capstan stands is thicker than the deck plancks. 
Of course I forgot this during deck planking ... 

So plan B. Make it look like the capstan stands on thicker planks. And add an extra tree nail here and there in the original planking.
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ready
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Bars for the capstan will by made later. For the moment I have no idea where I can put them.

Thanks for following.

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On the capstan is just where I don't want to place them permanently. Then I have no space left at all.


My idea was that the guns deployed there were only in position during combat operations.
So there is no place left to operate the capstan.

 

During non combat operations secured to the side of the ship.
Then there is room to operate the capstan.

 

But that's just an assumption.

 

 

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The capstan of the Genoese ship Lomellina, built in 1503, has slots for two bars,each of which passes right through the capstan. The slots are at different heights above the deck.

 

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A reconstruction of the Mary Rose's capstan (with removable bars) is shown below. This seems identical to the one Patrick is making.

 

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This illustration can be found at https://books.google.com.au/books?id=MSCGCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA108&lpg=PA108&dq=mary+rose+capstan&source=bl&ots=EjQXJE-eU7&sig=ACfU3U3vIvX3cjv7dF9GZQA9g-OfSPourA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiCyu2auM_hAhWJfysKHUzvC70Q6AEwEXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=mary rose capstan&f=false

 

It seems unlikely to me that a capstan, even as early as the 16th century, would have its bars permanently in place getting in the way.

 

Steven

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Thank you everyone for the nice comments and good advice.

It looks that I am reasonably correct with my model capstan (The Mary Rose and San Juan whale ship capstans are  quite identical )
Since nobody could take a photo in the 16th century and nobody neatly stated where the bars were stored. I will have to find a place myself.

 

And no, its not made in Italy

Made in Verrebroek. ;)

 

Btw.

The meaning of the name "Verrebroek" (the town where we live).

 

verre, means : higher dry land 

broek, means  wetland area

So Verrebroek is founded on a higher dry land in  a swampy area.

 

Now this area is all dry land. But in the Middle Ages this area was swampy.
Not so far away from our home, during the expansion works of the port of Antwerp, people even found a cog while digging a new dock.

 

Patrick


 

 

 

 

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