Barbossa Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share #241 Posted February 22, 2017 Here's part II Last pic is dedicated to 1) MSW Staff : congrats regarding the software update and Ray : consulting his buildlog (HMS Diana fvinished +/- a year ago) made things more easier and comprehensable., Cheers Ray Tim Curtis, CharlieZardoz, Dfell and 17 others 20 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted February 22, 2017 Author Share #242 Posted February 22, 2017 Not the last, the one in the middle, I meant mtaylor and Sjors 2 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted February 22, 2017 Share #243 Posted February 22, 2017 great job really great Barbossa and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted February 23, 2017 Share #244 Posted February 23, 2017 Awesome! Disappointed I couldn't 'really really like' the Priory beer photo mtaylor and Barbossa 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share #245 Posted February 23, 2017 Thanks Mort & Jason for comments & and all likes, Jason : Caldercraft's Diana kit offers a lot of " improvement/adding your own interpretation" opportunities and you make such an awesome job of it ! For example : whenever I work on my model I always bear in my mind I should have remplaced the copper plates, just as you did. Related to the beer : I understand the artisanal beermarket in the US is subject to a huge improvement the last years, but that's another subject Hi Mort always good to hear from you : I sincerely hope your doing fine. Wanted to post the pics before going to sleep (yesterday-evening ) So the standing rigging was realised pretty forward according to building instructions. I've tried to understand and implement this as best as I could as everything related to naval vocabulary is already a vocabulary on itself and as a non native English speaker I can assure you I went through some trouble : Ray's explanative photo's ( see his Diana log ) were a tremendous help. Except the ratlines ( Gutermann ) I used what was supplied in the kit. While working on the tops and in a burst of masochism I decided to fore 1 mm holes in the 3 main tops as I wanted to add crowsfeet. ( The real Diana never had ) but I just like the sight of it although I have no clue - whatsover- their purpose was mort stoll and mtaylor 2 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBlakeny Posted February 23, 2017 Share #246 Posted February 23, 2017 Superbly done! mtaylor and Barbossa 2 Quote Chris Current builds : On hold : IJN Yamato by DeAgostini - 1/250 Completed builds : Bermuda boat Corsair (scratch) President by Sergal - 1/60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted February 23, 2017 Share #247 Posted February 23, 2017 Well done. Enjoy the beer Cheers. groetjes Greetings mtaylor, mort stoll and Barbossa 3 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share #248 Posted March 2, 2017 Crowsfeet ? I love them For the interested : the euphroe-blocks are made of styrene. Walnut was not an option I fixed 2 small sheets of 0,5 mmm and one of 0.25 mm in the middle : thas was (more or less) the suitable thickness. A needle and a pin to obtain the best possible alignment to fore the 0.8 mm holes The paint is from the Acrylico Vallejo-brand and the 311 colortype is until now the closest to wood, at least in my opinion, some more filing before assembly and that was that. Here's the pics (part I) mtaylor, Sjors, Blue Ensign and 8 others 11 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share #249 Posted March 2, 2017 Here's part 2 As mentioned in previous post, the model has no crowsfeet, but it's a nice detail and I like the contrast between the black masttops and the light color of the thread. Beef Wellington, Dfell, Sjors and 12 others 15 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted March 2, 2017 Share #250 Posted March 2, 2017 very nice work Christian, your standing rigging is well done !! Nils mtaylor and Barbossa 2 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted March 2, 2017 Share #251 Posted March 2, 2017 Almost done , yeah😄😄😄👍👍👍 Very nice Christian. Crowsfeet are just great. Sjors Barbossa and mtaylor 2 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted March 2, 2017 Share #252 Posted March 2, 2017 Nice work Christian. "Crowsfeet" Never heard of it before Again another word learned MSW groetjes Greetings Barbossa and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share #253 Posted March 2, 2017 Hi Nils, Sjors & Patrick Thanks for the nice comments & the likes. Patrick : Please, take a look in Sjors' Agamemnon buildlog. You'll find them. In other logs too : Vanguard, Pegasus,... Diana never had, so this detail is a bit fictitious, I'm afraid. Also the open bulwarks, I guess. But it's fun and those features were typical for ships from the second half of the XVIII century, so I still work within boundaries The funny thing is : I have no idea what purpose they had. Moreover, in French they are called "Pattes d'Oie", I think. So here's already another bird involved (Oie = Goose). I wonder in Dutch...? So if anyone has an some info regarding the use of those crowsfeet : feel free to drop a message Mirabell61, mtaylor, Baker and 1 other 4 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted March 2, 2017 Share #254 Posted March 2, 2017 In Dutch it is kraaienpoten. But the purpose? Who it knows can tell us. Sjors Baker, mtaylor and Barbossa 3 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davyboy Posted March 2, 2017 Share #255 Posted March 2, 2017 Hi Christian and Sjors, The purpose of the Crowsfeet was to prevent the foot of the Topsail chafing on the rim of the top. Dave mtaylor, Sjors, Barbossa and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husky1943 Posted March 2, 2017 Share #256 Posted March 2, 2017 Howdy Christian, Wow, that is a very beautiful lady you got there! Outstanding! Ciao for now Rob Barbossa and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share #257 Posted March 2, 2017 Thanks guys, Hi Dave : thanks for the info : now I understand : it makes sense. Hello Rob : your nice comments are much appreciated. mtaylor, Sjors and husky1943 3 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share #258 Posted March 3, 2017 So far for the good news show. Here's a word of caution related to the position of the seats of ease in front of the gallion. As the pics show and as consequence of a mistake of mine the, holes are covered. So I filled them up, sanded with a high grid. I'll see were to install on the gallion the seats of ease later on. Sad but not critical. mtaylor, Shipyard sid, Beef Wellington and 8 others 11 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted March 6, 2017 Share #259 Posted March 6, 2017 Christian, Maybe you can find here more information about "seats of ease" Lots of info and links . Groetjes Greetings Barbossa and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted March 6, 2017 Share #260 Posted March 6, 2017 Nice work Christian, looks like there is room aft of the boomkins for seats of ease, but if you're including the discharge pipes you'll need to check there is free access thro' the headworks. B.E. Barbossa and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share #261 Posted March 6, 2017 Thanks a lot Patrick, much appreaciated this info. Pics related to the subject from HMS Victory are super !!!What a difference between sailors and officers, isn't it ? In the meantime, the problem has been solved. I'll post some pics next week. regardless the poor weather conditions, we're to spend an extended week-end at the Belgian coast. Perhaps other Diana - builders ( maybe also other kits ) faced the same problem ? The two protruding masts may obstruct the original ( correct ) position of the seats of ease At present I'm preparing the yards Thanks for the input. Baker and mtaylor 2 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share #262 Posted March 6, 2017 Indeed BE, after the boomkins it is. Thanks for the appreciation, and again ( to quote so many) glad you're back with with us : your buildlog is milestone mtaylor 1 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share #263 Posted March 22, 2017 Hello, Yards : preparation : The stunsail brackets As Ray quite rightly at page 15 mentions (HMS Diana by Ray - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - A 38 gun Heavy Frigate, 1794) they are a bit oversized, indeed. I decided to go for the "styrene"-option. I used 0.25 mm thickness sheets. As the end of the yards are tapered, the strip that was to be bended and fixed with superglue around them, described a small curve. The stunsail brackets are to be overpainted anyway. The 3rd pic shows what was supplied with the kit I also had to fore a 1mm hole at both extremeties of each concerned yard, no big deal. realworkingsailor, rafine, mtaylor and 6 others 9 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted March 22, 2017 Share #264 Posted March 22, 2017 Hi Christian, a very nice fix on the hole for the seats of ease. This seems to be a challenging area but sure it will look great. The other difference/deficiency I see with the kit is that it seems to completely ignore a seat of ease in the back corner of the false rail and the ships side, simply leaving a large triangular hole which looks odd. Are you thinking of adding those as well? Your styrene yards are a much better solution to the really clunky white metal parts and look so much better. Really nice work! mtaylor and Barbossa 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted March 22, 2017 Author Share #265 Posted March 22, 2017 Hi Jason, thaks for drawing my attention regarding the additional seats : I'll have to check this...stay tuned By the way : I completely forgot to post pics related to the seats in the gallion. This turned out rather well( a job for next W.E. ) Styrene has proven it's utility in previous occasions. I can only recommend it. Some tiny parts in cutting and shaping out of walnut ?...I don't think so. I have 2 diifferent sheets at my disposal : 0.25 mm and 0.5 mm. Now a less pleasant job : to the vet with my cat. She's 16 years old and not going to well lately and a blood analysis is required. mtaylor 1 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted April 6, 2017 Author Share #266 Posted April 6, 2017 Hi, It took a little bit longer but here's my best shot related to the seats of ease. Just behind them there's indeed an intriguing void, so I wouldn't felt that comfortable on these seats of ease.... Other pics are related to the preparations of the yards. Some bending was required. For the footsteps or whatever they were called I used 0,5 mm brass WackoWolf, Waitoa, Blue Ensign and 11 others 14 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted April 6, 2017 Share #267 Posted April 6, 2017 Nice work I would also not feel myself "at ease" at the seats of ease. Barbossa and mtaylor 2 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted April 6, 2017 Share #268 Posted April 6, 2017 Beautiful work Christian, the head works look splendid Is there a second set of seats of ease to be added where there is a space aft of the gratings? I think the 'False' Rail above that area was in part to provide a modicum of security and privacy for users of the facility. B.E. Barbossa and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted April 6, 2017 Share #269 Posted April 6, 2017 Just beautiful!! Sjors Barbossa, mtaylor and mort stoll 3 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted April 6, 2017 Share #270 Posted April 6, 2017 Hi Christian, that looks great. I'm still stumbling through a solution to the upper and lower cheek/head rails and would love your opinions on those when I get comfortable posting. You really did an amazing job with the kit parts to get them looking as good as you did. I've been tearing my hair out with placement and I was interested to see you placed the lower cheek at the top of the wale, that's were I believe it should be to get it looks proportionally correct to my eye - but it seems that on the models and AOTS the placement seems to sit slightly below the top of the wale. I think you've given me the courage to go with that so I appreciate the photos of the completed headworks. Really beautiful work! Barbossa and mtaylor 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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