Trussben Posted January 14, 2018 Share #31 Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) I guess second time around is a charm, looks great Rusty. New rope looks really good. Edited January 14, 2018 by Trussben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share #32 Posted January 15, 2018 Thanks Ben, That Syren Ship Model Company rope is great to work with. Now hopefully there wont be a third time! Also thanks for all the likes. Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted January 18, 2018 Author Share #33 Posted January 18, 2018 The standing rigging is getting closer to be completion. I think I can remember what I've finished so far! Both the Fore and main top mast backstays, top gallant shrouds, top gallant backstays and royal backstays. You will also notice that I put a temporary fore royal stay to help steady the fore mast royal while rigging the back stays. Also lines have been tied off but not completed and coils placed until I'm sure I won't have to re-tension them. jablackwell, Jim Rogers, Peter Bloemendaal and 5 others 8 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 18, 2018 Share #34 Posted January 18, 2018 I hope that you're enjoying doing this as much as I am enjoying watching you do it. Bob Ryland Craze 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted January 18, 2018 Share #35 Posted January 18, 2018 She is a real beauty. Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share #36 Posted January 19, 2018 Thanks Jim and also for the likes. Bob in a kind of masochistic way it's fun going back and redoing it. I look at the plans and say to myself "I did it that way before? Sure doesn't seem familiar." LOL Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share #37 Posted January 23, 2018 I've now added the fore topgallant stay, fore royal stay, jib stay, flying jib stay as well as the inhauls for both jib stays. I've also completed the bowsprite horse and netting. The standing rigging is now complete. I've removed the yards from the fore mast and I'm going through them and correcting/fixing whatever may be needed. rafine, Peter Bloemendaal, Blue Ensign and 4 others 7 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted January 24, 2018 Share #38 Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) Rusty - I know this question has nothing to do with your current build. But as I was looking at these pictures, this came to me. Jim & I have been discussing what appears to be an error in the plans. If you build the tiller as the plans call for there is not enough room for the Wheel, Binnacle and Companionway. I would like your opinion on this? Your deck look excellent and the spacing from stern cannons to Companionway looks just right. Edited January 24, 2018 by fnkershner Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland Craze Posted January 24, 2018 Share #39 Posted January 24, 2018 Floyd, Here is a picture of the tiller on the Syren model in the US Naval Academy Museum. I hope this helps. fnkershner 1 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted January 24, 2018 Author Share #40 Posted January 24, 2018 Hi Floyd, No problem. The plans I have are from the MSW group build and not the ones from Model Shipways so I don't know about those. Here is a picture of the spacing from my set of plans. As you can see there is plenty of room on these plans. The Model Shipways plans may not be to scale? Not sure. Hope this helps. fnkershner and glennreader 2 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted January 24, 2018 Share #41 Posted January 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Ryland Craze said: Floyd, Here is a picture of the tiller on the Syren model in the US Naval Academy Museum. I hope this helps. Some of the differences between the two plans is the Model Shipways has the steering rigging on the deck, the Naval Museum Model has the rigging attached to the upper bulwarks and the wheel is closer to the tiller. It also seems to have a Capstan located where the Binnicle is on the MSW version. fnkershner 1 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted January 25, 2018 Share #42 Posted January 25, 2018 Wow! Now I don't feel so bad. this is the model in the Museum? My treenailing is better than than! How do you maneuver and fight the ship with the steering rigging at chest height? Also look at the huge size of those cleats. And Jim you are right where is the binnacle? JerseyCity Frankie 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted January 25, 2018 Share #43 Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) I think those are real wood Trenails. The Argus makes more sense to me now. How could you possibly fight the ship and steer with the rigging like that. No boat lift off the stern either. Edited January 25, 2018 by Jim Rogers fnkershner 1 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share #44 Posted January 31, 2018 I've completed the new boom and rigged both the boom and gaff. You'll notice ends of rope hanging off the sides. I'm waiting to finish them off until I know I don't have to adjust the tension. Next is the staysail rigging while I continue refreshing all of the yards. Peter Bloemendaal, Ryland Craze, Blue Ensign and 6 others 9 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted January 31, 2018 Share #45 Posted January 31, 2018 Looking awesome Rusty. mtaylor 1 Quote Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted February 1, 2018 Author Share #46 Posted February 1, 2018 Thanks Jim and thanks for all the likes too! mtaylor 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted February 1, 2018 Share #47 Posted February 1, 2018 Very nice work Rusty, she's far too good a model not to restore. B.E. Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fnkershner Posted February 1, 2018 Share #48 Posted February 1, 2018 I see another modeler using pill bottles for Chuck's parts! I have an idea, why don't we all ship our pill bottles to Chuck so he can fill them up. Just kidding. Chuck, Rustyj and jablackwell 3 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share #49 Posted February 2, 2018 Thanks B.E. She is one of my favorites! I like that idea Floyd! Not sure we can get Chuck on board though. I use them for rigging rope right now. Wrap the rope around a dowel, drill a hole in the top, pull out the rope as I need it and wah lah no tangles. Tigersteve 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share #50 Posted February 3, 2018 I've now completed all of the Staysail Halliards and downhauls, the Jib Sail Halliards and downhauls and the Fly Jib Sail Halliard and downhaul. I'm now working on redoing some of the yards starting with the lower course yards. Thanks for stopping by! Ryland Craze, Tigersteve, fnkershner and 4 others 7 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted February 16, 2018 Author Share #51 Posted February 16, 2018 I've been slowly chugging along with the re-do. I've decided to repair/refresh all of the yards first and then resume the rigging. Here you'll see I've finished the Main and Fore lower course yards, the Royal Yards and the Spritsail yard. Well it's onto the Topsail and Topgallant yards and the it's back to running more rope. Ryland Craze, Tigersteve, fnkershner and 2 others 5 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share #52 Posted March 9, 2019 Well it's been a year since I was distracted by Syrens Royal Barge and the Medway Longboat but I'm back at restoring the rigging to the Syren.That is until I squirrel an get sidetracked by something else. I took a couple of days and reread the practicum and looked the plans over to refresh myself and figure out exactly where I had left off. I completed redoing the Topsail and Topgallant yards. That completes the redoing all of the yards. Now it's time to start putting the yards back on the model. I started with the main and fore lower course yards. The trusses were made as well as rigging the slings and lower jeer ties and tackles. Then I ran the lifts and running tackles doing my best to keep the yards level. Lots and lots to still do but happily we're underway again! oneslim, Chuck, Tigersteve and 9 others 12 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Hoss Posted March 9, 2019 Share #53 Posted March 9, 2019 I think I may consider homicide if my Syren was violated like yours.... just kidding maybe...we tend to fall in love with these creations that we spend years getting to know plank by plank, yard by yard, plan by plan! I've already though about having to move, my ships go with ME, nobody touches them! I go crazy when the cleaning lady wants to dust around the ones that are out. She knows not to go near them....looking good, get her back to her glory. Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share #54 Posted March 10, 2019 Hi Sea Hoss, The saddest part is I have a case frame done. All I need is to get the plexi and it's finished! You want to believe that the case will be finished before the rigging is done this time! Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawdustDave Posted March 13, 2019 Share #55 Posted March 13, 2019 OMG! Rusty, I am so sorry to learn about your damaged Syren. I don't know what I would do if something like that happened to my own, which, as you recall, you and I were both honored to work with Chuck on this project as well as the Confederacy. But then, the plus side is, think about how much more skilled you are now.... and how much better she will be after your re-do. All makes for a good story for the grandkids..... right? Dave Quote Sawdust Dave - Current build - USS Constitution 1:60th (scratch).... Visit my blog site - All previous builds.... http://davesmodelships.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted March 15, 2019 Author Share #56 Posted March 15, 2019 Hi Dave! The wonderful memories of the group build and the great design of the Syren is some of the reasons that she is still one of my favorite builds. That's the reason I'm spending all the time and effort re-doing her. As far as improved skills I'm not to sure, I'm still crossing lines, undoing them and rerunning them only to find I pulled them through the wrong block and rerunning them again and belaying them to the wrong point.........and on and on........! At least this time Syren rope and blocks were used then replacements were needed! A great improvement over what was available at the time! Thanks for stopping by and also thanks for all the likes! Ryland Craze, JpR62 and Peter Bloemendaal 3 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share #57 Posted March 16, 2019 The rigging continues. As I said above it seems like two steps forward one step back. I've now added the leech lines, buntlines and the falls for the bunt lines to the lower course yards. Then I moved on to the topsail yards. I added the parrel, jeers, buntlines, lifts, sheets and clue lines to both the fore and main yards. Fore Yards Main Yards JerseyCity Frankie, glennreader, jwvolz and 8 others 11 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted March 17, 2019 Share #58 Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) Great detail shots there Rusty👍 Clearly show how good your work is. B.E. Edited March 17, 2019 by Blue Ensign Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share #59 Posted March 17, 2019 Thanks B.E. very much appreciated. Slow going but I'm getting there. Thanks for all the likes too! Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted March 31, 2019 Author Share #60 Posted March 31, 2019 Ok it's been a tough couple of weeks in the workshop. While working on the rigging for the topsail and topgallant yards the sleeve of my shirt caught the fore royal stay snapping the topgallant mast at the sheave. Soooooo the air was very blue for awhile and once it cleared and I could see straight I disassembled the topgallant mast again, made a new one and re-rigged it ..... again. Once that was done I was able to continue working on the rigging with short sleeved shirts! With the Main and Fore Topsail and Topgallant yards in place I've rigged the ties, buntlines, lifts, sheets, clue lines and braces. Next I'll move on to the Royal yards. Now for the second and more painful workshop tragedy. My shopmate for the last 11 1/2 years has gone on to the great workshop in the sky as is the issue with beloved pets who never seem to live long enough. She was my faithful companion every day for all those years always making moving around the shop a challenge. You see she was a 135lb (61kg) mastiff and she took up a whole lot of space though she thought she was a lap dog. Tallie last fall on her 11th birthday. And where you would more commonly find her. She didn't mind me stepping around her at all! A gentle giant who will be greatly missed. jablackwell, Peter Bloemendaal, Tigersteve and 4 others 7 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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