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hey there OC....finally got a chance to see what you are up to :)   off to an impressive start.   it will be interesting to see how your going to improve on this added detail your thinking of  ;) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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1 hour ago, popeye the sailor said:

hey there OC....finally got a chance to see what you are up to :)   off to an impressive start.   it will be interesting to see how your going to improve on this added detail your thinking of  ;) 

Thanks mate,   yep its not always easy to make a round smooth object detailed and interesting, but I will give it a go.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Wife just took note of my sub build   and asked  "where does the batteries go"    :o:o:o

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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1 hour ago, Old Collingwood said:

Wife just took note of my sub build   and asked  "where does the batteries go"    :o:o:o

 

OC.

LOLthats not good news

 

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1 hour ago, Old Collingwood said:

"where does the batteries go" 

So what did you tell her?:P:D

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

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Admiral said  she neds to be convinced its a submarine ........

 

Blushing Old Collingwood moment:o

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Sort of an update - I have been having trouble with the join line not joining flush despite sanding to two halves,  and even with many coats of paint it looked Horrid, so I tried to apply some styrene cement,  thi wasn't doing a very good job (dont the smallest and least complicated builds tend to give us grief):angry:

 

So plan number two was to use some C/A  and smear it inside and over the bow nose area.

This was done to some extent and when dry I was able to give the bow (super glued area)  and the rest of the hull a thorough sanding with very fine wet n dry and water.

 

The result was the affect you get when you sand a car down ready to re spray.

 

Then it was back on using my little hairy friend and muliple thin coats of dark grey.

 

No pictures as I didn't have the heart and thought it looked a mess,   still having to use my phone camera also.

 

Not the best day TBH.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Well, I guess it was a little off-putting, OC. Stiff upper lip and all that, eh, what?

 

Or as that infamous cartoon character said: "Doh!"

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

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sounds like it might have been better to use filler........glue would only soften the plastic {never tried CA}.  is it salvageable? 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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3 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

sounds like it might have been better to use filler........glue would only soften the plastic {never tried CA}.  is it salvageable? 

Yeah  it just took a bit of sanding with fine wet and dry,  its had a few more coats back over the whole hull, but to be honest its like trying to paint a glass from top to bottom with a small brush.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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If I pull this one off  I think I will have earned the NRG achiever medal of stupid painting endurance.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Type of brush? Kind of bristles? Paint brand?

 

You won't be let of the hook that easily, to call yourself an achiever of stupid painting endurance you will have to be at it a lot longer mate, note just a few hours. Besides what you find inacceptable could be well within the margins

Carl

"Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson
Search and you might find a log ...

 

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OC, for filler I used to use Squadron green putty (also comes as white putty) worked well to smooth and fill in gaps on plastic.  Don't know if it is available in UK, I even have trouble finding it in the "colonies" ;) lately.

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13 minutes ago, cog said:

Type of brush? Kind of bristles? Paint brand?

 

You won't be let of the hook that easily, to call yourself an achiever of stupid painting endurance you will have to be at it a lot longer mate, note just a few hours. Besides what you find inacceptable could be well within the margins

"Type of brush"   yep the hairy kind with a handle,  seriously  its a fairly decent size brush that I use for hand painting my Warspite build,   paint wise in using the excellent Lifecolor set of acrylic satins, they are really good.

Its one of those painting jobs - the more thinned out coats its get - the better the finish.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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14 minutes ago, Jack12477 said:

OC, for filler I used to use Squadron green putty (also comes as white putty) worked well to smooth and fill in gaps on plastic.  Don't know if it is available in UK, I even have trouble finding it in the "colonies" ;) lately.

Thanks Jack,   I think I have seen it on flee bay.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Even though I agree with Popeye and Jack that putty fillers are easiest to work with. Another old time alternative if you can't get putty for some reason, is to take left over plastic sprue and melt it in a jar of liquid styrene cement to make a paste. If you use the sprue from this kit, it will even match the color of the original plastic. Not as easy to work with as drying time is normally at least over night, even when used in small areas, but the results can be pretty good. 

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

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2 minutes ago, lmagna said:

OC

Even though I agree with Popeye and Jack that putty fillers are easiest to work with. Another old time alternative if you can't get putty for some reason, is to take left over plastic sprue and melt it in a jar of liquid styrene cement to make a paste. If you use the sprue from this kit, it will even match the color of the original plastic. Not as easy to work with as drying time is normally at least over night, even when used in small areas, but the results can be pretty good. 

I have seen that mentioned before,   the only experience I have with molten sprue  is with aircraft kits to make arials and comms wires, where you would heat up one of the lengths of sprue then pull it till it became a very fine string.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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I decided to mask the hull into sections to aid hand painting,  I did this in equal sections so as to look natural when the tape is removed,  just the one pic.

 

OC.

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Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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I've used fine grained auto body filler (Bondo here in the US) to even out the divots on plastic. Has a strong odor, so wear a good chemical vapor mask. And do it outdoors (peace in the family, lads).

 

I have also seen folks using superglue with fillers. But you need to sand smooth fairly soon after you do that. Otherwise the superglue gets harder than the plastic and you remove the wrong parts.

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

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12 minutes ago, Canute said:

superglue with fillers

Now that Ken brings it up I remember people used to use CA and baking soda. Fill the area with the baking soda and zap it! Stan away from the smoke though!:o Sets up instantly!

Lou

 

Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence

Currant builds:

Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold)

Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral)

1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin)

Currant research/scratchbuild:

Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes

Non ship build log:

1/35th UH-1H Huey

 

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Here's the result after taking the masks off and giving the hull a gentle wash with a soft sponge.

 

OC.

 

DSC00051.JPG

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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8 hours ago, Canute said:

I've used fine grained auto body filler (Bondo here in the US) to even out the divots on plastic. Has a strong odor, so wear a good chemical vapor mask. And do it outdoors (peace in the family, lads).

 

I have also seen folks using superglue with fillers. But you need to sand smooth fairly soon after you do that. Otherwise the superglue gets harder than the plastic and you remove the wrong parts.

 

Back in the 60's/70's they used to make a filler for the model cars... wasn't a bad odor and very sandable.  I guess they don't make that anymore?

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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I remember that stuff, kind of a tan color? Absorbed paint like a sponge, too. Used it a lot for custom car models.

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

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That's the stuff, Ken.  Came in a tube as I recall.  A bit of brush on primer and a light sanding would sometimes but not always stop the absorption.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Yeah, mark. Although way back when any idea of using a primer was not in my work ethic. Learned that with airplane models.

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

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Looks like all your effort paid off OC, looks quite nice from Florida.

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

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Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

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                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

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13 hours ago, Piet said:

Looks like all your effort paid off OC, looks quite nice from Florida.

 

Cheers,

Thanks piet.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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