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Good day all,

Not sure if I'm in the right place on this forum but if not, sorry then it has to be moved.

 

Well here I am with my building side from the sea going tug the "Fairmouth Alpine" what with today's name Boka Alpine still runs across our Oceans.

This is not my first kit to built but did not do this for the last 20 years+ but being pensioned now the misses wants me to have something to do, maybe keep my brain occupied who knows.

Anyway, did start this building from Billing Boats and want to make it different then original, means want to have a Schottel prop stern with 360 degrees rotation. No rudders of course, no shafts, no stern truster so leaving a lot of weight behind what has to be compensated with ballast afterwards but so far I am not yet. 

Also the bottom will be changed as don't like those small <planks> on vital shell places as go for "massive" shell all the way in the bottom and want to make kim keel's as did see with the sailing models that she is moving to fast when giving a little course changing. 

Not sure if the <fixed> keel is low enough in the water but if not will extend that also and maybe with ballast in there too. (example the Damen tug in pic)

So this project will take some time with having all this in place but no rush, got time.

Sequences I use is not the same as Billing boats gives in the manual but this is my system and to my humble opinion is much better.

Also waiting for the propellers and bow truster to arrive so I can finish the hull.

Having a lot of wishes for this project such as working fire fighting equipment, anchor winch that is working, towing winch and winches on the deck in working condition, lights accommodation and navigation, smoking funnels and more of that stuff.

Hope you like the pics here and if comments no problem, will respond to them all.

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I must admit that until now I did not glue all the frames from the hull as she is still on the slip-way and needs to make reinforcements in between the frames but having her on the slip is much more easy to do that as it's a great stability tool to work with on this relative big kit's. 

Glad I have this slip-way built and make her on this. 

For the price you don't have to spare as it is relative cheap and during the building it can be easy moved from 1 to another spot without damage vital elements of her.

Also some of the bridge parts already glued but in the sense that the <roof> of the bridge can be removed for making inside her bridge the consoles for the nav equipment and the towing winch on her back side of this bridge. 

Funnels are glues but still not on the bottom as need to have this off when I make the pipes in there.

Did not make comments under the pics, sorry for that but must be clear enough looking at those pics.

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looking forward to more progress, looks a nice big build - LOL i like big builds

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Thanks Kevin, 

still not sure if I put all this in the right place but until now did not get any comments about it.

Well here we go, starting to take all apart for the glue option and use the Aliphatic waterproof/sand-able glue.

Now here is the tricky part! Glue the parts is not a bad/difficult job but to do that in a fashion that all will get in the right place you have to think logic as 1 mistake and the whole built is going to be funny!! 

To keep it strait I use the slip-way what gives me a good indication if all is correct and 90 degrees on each other specially the frames.

Anyway, presently half way, back side is finished the frames and some other parts, topside of the deck railings is done, where as the roll comes on the stern is also done but can still take the top of the backside off in order to have better access underneath what I like to have other equipment mounted later.

Means only the top shell is glued, rest will follow when my reinforcements are in place between the frames.

Now just started the front part and bow what is now drying before put it on.

Need to cut the centre connection as otherwise the bow trust cannot be mounted.

I also did find the spot for the Azimuth props in the backside where as the tail will go through the shell, used the original ones as still waiting to receive them and the bow truster. 

Also the accommodation and the bridge will start today with windows bridge as the rest already done.

Wish me luck, pics are doing later.

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Done a major progress until now.

Finished the bridge, did the penetration for the towing wires making smooth and glued, supports for the cranes cut and on the bow deck did all the frames and the top "sheet" what was a bit difficult too.

Tomorrow want to start with the aft part of the project and doing railing works on deck and on the stern the 2 bend plates next to the roller.

It takes form to it and looks like a strong tug!

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Not to think that I stopped here, nope just goes a bit slower then I thought as needs to alter the building.

I'm the first one that is building this tug with Azimuth's without stern truster and also NO rudders. 

The Azimuth's can turn 360 degrees so no need for them, also the stern truster is closed and will not be used.

Now here comes the tricky part as I have to do that a bit different then the "NORMAL" propulsion and need some more supports to have the strength into the building. Also due to the Azimuth's I altered the keel and raised her 12 mm to have more space underneath her and there where the Azimuth's are coming.

I made side (bottom) supports on both sides, also in the middle from the last frame until the midships frame a support.

Personally, Billund Ships are ok but if you alter the propulsion I think that this building is to weak for that and made those supports.

You can see on the pictures below that I struggle a bit with the stern top side small plates to have this in 3 corners bent and also the aft outside corner. 

Managed it with help of hot water and steam to pre-bent them and stick it to the building, leave them for a day before finally glue them in place.

Presently the aft part is 90 % finished but still in a fashion that I can take of the top deck aft to enable me afterwards bringing in on the bottom the epoxy making her watertight, secondly in the event that I have to alter the stern in way of the Azimuth on top I can more easy alter the deck.

So far so good and now will start further with front part, doing a little more to the frames to guide the shell plates more and then the bow itself to be bent and glue to the frames with the anchor pockets. 

Planning is to have the bow trust in before finalise the bow but could be that I change that plan depends on the status of the shell plates who have to be in place and glued. 

I made some plates under the building there where the Azimuth's are coming to have a good strong support.

Also I still use the slip-way as due to the raising of the keel I managed to have her on the "BLOCKS"

As I don't need anymore the original propulsion + rudders, I did give it away to a friend in Holland that is presently making the same building but 10 years old and rebuilt her and was in need of those parts.

Wish me luck to start with the bow and shell plates!

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Not to think that I stopped here, nope just goes a bit slower then I thought as needs to alter the building.

I'm the first one that is building this tug with Azimuth's without stern truster and also NO rudders. 

The Azimuth's can turn 360 degrees so no need for them, also the stern truster is closed and will not be used.

Now here comes the tricky part as I have to do that a bit different then the "NORMAL" propulsion and need some more supports to have the strength into the building. Also due to the Azimuth's I altered the keel and raised her 12 mm to have more space underneath her and there where the Azimuth's are coming.

I made side (bottom) supports on both sides, also in the middle from the last frame until the midships frame a support.

Personally, Billund Ships are ok but if you alter the propulsion I think that this building is to weak for that and made those supports.

You can see on the pictures below that I struggle a bit with the stern top side small plates to have this in 3 corners bent and also the aft outside corner. 

Managed it with help of hot water and steam to pre-bent them and stick it to the building, leave them for a day before finally glue them in place.

Presently the aft part is 90 % finished but still in a fashion that I can take of the top deck aft to enable me afterwards bringing in on the bottom the epoxy making her watertight, secondly in the event that I have to alter the stern in way of the Azimuth on top I can more easy alter the deck.

So far so good and now will start further with front part, doing a little more to the frames to guide the shell plates more and then the bow itself to be bent and glue to the frames with the anchor pockets. 

Planning is to have the bow trust in before finalise the bow but could be that I change that plan depends on the status of the shell plates who have to be in place and glued. 

I made some plates under the building there where the Azimuth's are coming to have a good strong support.

Also I still use the slip-way as due to the raising of the keel I managed to have her on the "BLOCKS"

As I don't need anymore the original propulsion + rudders, I did give it away to a friend in Holland that is presently making the same building but 10 years old and rebuilt her and was in need of those parts.

Wish me luck to start with the bow and shell plates!

 

Been some time now but slowly we are coming there.

Had some other work to do at home so the building was second in line so to speak..

Anyway today we have the 12 April and done with the helideck and her supports for that, thought that material I ordered did arrive but apparently they are still on their way to me.

Yes I did make a helideck, this days it is a MUST to have one if your vessel want to keep up with competitors so looked around to find some ideas and the result is not to bad if I may say so.

Also on the forward part bow all fittings done and the winches behind the accommodation as well the 2 x boilers ER put in place , the MOB fit and also the second fast rescue boat. 

I ordered 2 x cranes to be mounted on the aft part as where the pillars are presently as well an Atlas crane on the aft deck below. 

The 2 x tucker winches as all supports aft deck done and in place.

As you may have noticed the supports ps and stb side are done below bottom are glue inside so we have more strength into the vessel itself.

As still in discussion with Cornwall for the Azimuth delivery we came to an option to have an el. motor for the 360 degrees continue running and no stop and go back, did that as with real Schottel you can do that so why not in a model? You only have to use an el motor that runs with a slow movement (or gearbox, reduction) in order to have the steering movements by means of belt and the el motor (vertical mounted) to be done. Means having inside 4 x belts, 2 for the propulsion and 2 x for the independent steering. 

So in the end there will be not so much el motors or other parts like an original and have due to that more space underneath the deck.

Having said that the height under decks iwo the Azimuth was only 24 mm so not much space left for the 2 wheels mounted on top of the Azimuth where as the belts are running from to the el motors for the previous named movements.

 

Still the weather here in the UK is not so good to work outside, still have zero degrees at night so have to wait for the shell/hull plates and bow until this goes better.

Anyway, did work enough in the mean time and still can manage to take off all parts such as complete aft part and bridge / accommodation as well to make it more easy for painting and putting epoxy afterwards.

Also it is more practical when I'm building in the lights and other parts as under deck (midships)  I want to have a working towing winch so made already a platform where as this is mounted later on.

Enjoy the pics and if having questions willing to answer them, until then have a great one.

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Hello seamanpeter

 

WOW what a build, I take my hat off to you.

That is some large ship, how long is it.

 

By the way thank you for following my little IL Leudo build.

 

Jo.

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Jo, thanks for follow this built, the total length is ca 1 Mtr, she will be ca 25 cm stb to ps, and the height is around 48 cm (top mast - bottom).

How heavy she will be cannot tell you as no applicants built in yet and also no ballast so all depends.

Hope she will not sunk to deep into the water but that's to find out afterwards in the bath!!

Will take some time to have her all done with all I want to built in her with lights, propulsion, winch, batteries etc etc.

Those are the heavy parts, the rest is hardly giving weight to her.

But as time goes by I keep you all posted.

Till next time, take care and hope your built will be finalised too.

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Right, being a bit slow this time as last my HD from laptop included most of the data so been busy to get this sorted out and after having a new HD mounted, now have to download all what I had before. 

Some of the data also from the Boka Alpine is last but did manage to retrieve some of it.

Now then, did some work on the building but is still on the slip making little progress to the hull, bow and deck.

The most difficult part was the mast, what shape, where to place it, as did not like the original one. Found a solution and that is what it will be, need some work to it like lights, radars etc, but that will be done later.

Already did use filler on the bow and other parts as still waiting for Cornwall to come with an solution for the 2 x Schottel's in the back side as previous ones where to high above it as only have less then 25 mm but it will be sorted out with 2 x belt on each one, 1 for steering 360 degrees and another for the propulsion.

Anyway, even the working space on deck is done with planking, my God what a work is that each plank cutting and glue.

Cranes will be ordered and also the buckle crane on aft deck will be done.

Railing works will be done by fixed ones and just bend / cut them where ever thy need to be.

Helideck will be illuminated but all lights will be done afterwards when all rest is finalised.

Still can take off most of it for later painting / lighting / epoxy etc.

Still have some up to date pictures here and hope you enjoy them.

Till next time with this building.

 

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Right, being a bit slow this time as last my HD from laptop included most of the data so been busy to get this sorted out and after having a new HD mounted, now have to download all what I had before. 

Some of the data also from the Boka Alpine is last but did manage to retrieve some of it.

Now then, did some work on the building but is still on the slip making little progress to the hull, bow and deck.

The most difficult part was the mast, what shape, where to place it, as did not like the original one. Found a solution and that is what it will be, need some work to it like lights, radars etc, but that will be done later.

Already did use filler on the bow and other parts as still waiting for Cornwall to come with an solution for the 2 x Schottel's in the back side as previous ones where to high above it as only have less then 25 mm but it will be sorted out with 2 x belt on each one, 1 for steering 360 degrees and another for the propulsion.

Anyway, even the working space on deck is done with planking, my God what a work is that each plank cutting and glue.

Cranes will be ordered and also the buckle crane on aft deck will be done.

Railing works will be done by fixed ones and just bend / cut them where ever thy need to be.

Helideck will be illuminated but all lights will be done afterwards when all rest is finalised.

Still can take off most of it for later painting / lighting / epoxy etc.

Still have some up to date pictures here and hope you enjoy them.

Till next time with this building.

nb. some pics of the layout mast and what will be the Azimut Schottels, only mine will have long belts both sides as only have limited space above ca 22 mm.  Cornwall UK is making them and waiting for arriving here. Also the helideck will be illuminated as pic show and after with epoxy made smooth.

 

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Gidday Peter.

I have jumped in a tad late for your impressive build.

I also like these sea going tugs and one is on the backburner, too many projects and not enough life left.

Wishing you all the best in your endeavours,

Mark.

 

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How did I miss this until now? Very impressive, Peter. And very fast work without sacrificing quality in the slightest.

 

At the beginning of the build you commented on whether or not you had put the log in the right place. I assume that's because you're not building the model exactly the same as the kit, with no rudders etc. No problemo - that's what we call kit-bashing, and is usually  better than how it comes in the kit because the builder has invested more care and attention - and research - into it than the kit manufacturers were prepared to.

 

I don't usually follow modern builds - I'm more a mediaeval/renaissance guy - but this build is really beautiful.

 

Steven

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Thanks Steven.

Yes I built it different then the original is doe as over the years working at sea as engineer and later as master on this kind of tugs I do have enough experience to made it in a way that I think it should be done.

Nevertheless, this is my interpretation of a sea going tug and also these days in the Offshore working environment to assist where possible.

At my age and been there long enough I made again my life work as hobby and with all respect, billing boats are great but you can make them stronger when you later want to use them so you will see that I have made supports to pick up the force and moments having a different kind of propulsion.

Also seen some of the buildings as RC in the water they are not that stable so I made a keel under her and will make also "Kim keels" having her more quiet in the water during sailing. 

Yes I made also a helideck in the front as that what it's required giving service to the Offshore or any other project she may be involved in.

It does not going fast but in a regular tempo as what you have said yourself, you have to think carefully what you doing during this built, perfect you cannot get it but will try to come as close possible.

Sure afterwards will make the additional extra's to her like lighting, winches, towing pins, smoking exhaust, helideck lighting, working fire equipment and all what is on the market.

By the end of the day it will be a realistic built with all the futures you can think off and as again, I was born on the water 71 years ago and still love it to get involved with ships, call it a passion.

I will post pics during the development here and if comments, you welcome to give your input.

Thanks Steven and take care there "down under".

 

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On 3/17/2019 at 9:21 PM, Seamanpeter said:

I must admit that until now I did not glue all the frames from the hull as she is still on the slip-way and needs to make reinforcements in between the frames but having her on the slip is much more easy to do that as it's a great stability tool to work with on this relative big kit's. 

Glad I have this slip-way built and make her on this. 

For the price you don't have to spare as it is relative cheap and during the building it can be easy moved from 1 to another spot without damage vital elements of her.

Also some of the bridge parts already glued but in the sense that the <roof> of the bridge can be removed for making inside her bridge the consoles for the nav equipment and the towing winch on her back side of this bridge. 

Funnels are glues but still not on the bottom as need to have this off when I make the pipes in there.

Did not make comments under the pics, sorry for that but must be clear enough looking at those pics.

Querry where did you get the mug? I want one. Being an ex Marine Engineer.

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