GrandpaPhil Posted August 15, 2019 Share #31 Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) Sanding it between coats hides the wood grain. I should, and probably will on my next build. Edited August 15, 2019 by GrandpaPhil Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted August 15, 2019 Author Share #32 Posted August 15, 2019 I kind of want to raise the bar on each one of my kits. Once i start working on the Diana i really need everything to be top notch. But with my Victory i just want to finish it as quickly as possible to the Good enuff level. Granado is somewhere in between 🙂 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted August 15, 2019 Share #33 Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) I have the Anatomy Of The Ship for the Granado. It’s on my to-build list. I’m going to build it in 1/72 scale. Edited August 15, 2019 by GrandpaPhil Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share #34 Posted August 20, 2019 I had to get a used copy from the other side of the world... RickyGene, GrandpaPhil, Jonny 007 and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyGene Posted August 20, 2019 Share #35 Posted August 20, 2019 Great book for references. At one time I had a good collection of them. I still have a few. I last year bought a copy for the HMS Victory, paid a high price for it from eBay. The book was folded in 1/2 and looked like it had been dragged behind a dump truck! The older books are a hard back/card and the newer ones are paper back! Looking forward to your build. Rick Quote Neophyte Shipwright Wisdom: When all else fails, read the instructions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted August 20, 2019 Share #36 Posted August 20, 2019 It’s a great reference book. Like I said before, I’m going to build mine from it. Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share #37 Posted August 20, 2019 3 hours ago, RickyGene said: Great book for references. At one time I had a good collection of them. I still have a few. I last year bought a copy for the HMS Victory, paid a high price for it from eBay. The book was folded in 1/2 and looked like it had been dragged behind a dump truck! The older books are a hard back/card and the newer ones are paper back! Looking forward to your build. Rick I got the AOTS books for all my kits besides the HMS Snake... perhaps they can produce that one also 😉 GrandpaPhil and RickyGene 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share #38 Posted October 11, 2019 Taking a break from the coppering of my Snake and doing some details on my Granado. This was not easy.. made a jig but still very tricky to get everything in place. GrandpaPhil, J11, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted October 11, 2019 Author Share #39 Posted October 11, 2019 First step done... there are a few spare parts in the kit if you mess up but i didnt need them. Ryland Craze, egkb, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted October 12, 2019 Author Share #40 Posted October 12, 2019 Unfortunately, the inner bulwark patterns didnt fully match up with outer gunport patterns, so i cut them into several pieces before glueing them in place. I hope this works. Jolley Roger, GrandpaPhil, J11 and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted October 13, 2019 Share #41 Posted October 13, 2019 I had to cut my bulwarks on Granado as well. Should be no issue. Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 13, 2019 Share #42 Posted October 13, 2019 Great progress Vane! Some of the AOTS book are ridiculous priced on the internet. I can find the Granado version only for 70 dollars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted October 13, 2019 Author Share #43 Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) Thanks, yes I bought a used issue form Amazon UK... but unfortunately it was shipped from US and took a very long time to get. I also had to pay extra because of coming from the outside of EU. My AOTS Diana was much easier and cheaper to get. I Think I will try to get the Bellona issue at one point as well. Edited October 13, 2019 by Vane GrandpaPhil and mugje 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share #44 Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/13/2019 at 3:20 AM, jwvolz said: I had to cut my bulwarks on Granado as well. Should be no issue. Your buildlog is a great inspiration for me! Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwvolz Posted October 14, 2019 Share #45 Posted October 14, 2019 14 hours ago, Vane said: Your buildlog is a great inspiration for me! Thanks Vane. Any questions as you progress, just ask! Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share #46 Posted October 19, 2019 Time to take the final decision on going with Walnut or Tanganyika for the 2nd planking....? Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted October 19, 2019 Share #47 Posted October 19, 2019 Tanganyika looks more like the ship on the box 🙂 Ryland Craze and Jim Rogers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share #48 Posted October 27, 2019 I did start with the 2nd planking from the bottom just to see how it will look like with Tanganyika. Its abit different to work with this Wood. I will paint this White in the end so i can still change my mind. So should I continue with this? Ryland Craze, Edwardkenway, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted November 10, 2019 Author Share #49 Posted November 10, 2019 2nd planking is going quite well. I have been using thick CA to avoid pinholes. It took some practice to get used to it but now i find it easy to work with. jwvolz, BenD, KARAVOKIRIS and 6 others 9 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted November 10, 2019 Share #50 Posted November 10, 2019 Tanganyika looks very good. Walnut would be much too dark with a noticeable grain pattern. The planking came out wonderful. Nicely done. Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted November 11, 2019 Author Share #51 Posted November 11, 2019 Thanks alot, it wouldnt had been possible without your help and introducing me to the "Chuck-method" for pre bending planks. Tanganyika is a bit softer than walnut and you have to be really carefull when bending it in the "wrong" direction so it dont splinter or even breaks. After sanding the surface feels extremely smooth. Not sure yet exactly how it will look. It will be interesting to see it after I painted the lower hull white and applied poly. J11 and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share #52 Posted November 16, 2019 Working on the gunports before adding the last planks... egkb, GrandpaPhil, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share #53 Posted November 20, 2019 2nd planking done! JpR62, J11, HardeeHarHar and 7 others 10 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share #54 Posted November 25, 2019 These tiny holes takes forever to carve out.... egkb, Jolley Roger, JpR62 and 7 others 10 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted December 3, 2019 Author Share #55 Posted December 3, 2019 I finally got my hands on some Boxwood. I have already done the 2nd planking in Tanganyika but here you can see the difference in colour and grain. GrandpaPhil, Ryland Craze, BenD and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugje Posted December 4, 2019 Share #56 Posted December 4, 2019 The Tanganyika looks more like wood though. I'm still not sure if I like that über clean look of boxwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share #57 Posted December 4, 2019 Yes its a very different style. We will see how the Boxwood turnes out on my Speedy. But boxwood is much different to work with. The Tanganyika is abit soft and splinters. I am definitely happy i didnt stay with the supplied walnut. mugje 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom kinglake Posted December 28, 2019 Share #58 Posted December 28, 2019 Hi Vane Your tanganyika planking looks excellent. Congratulations on your very neat oar ports, too! When I made my Granado, I didn't realise that there were no cutouts for them in the gunport patterns until too late! I didn't use the walnut for the upper hull of Granado, either - instead I used lime, coloured with a light oak stain, then a clear varnish over that. I wasn't completely satisfied with the result, although it seems an improvement on the walnut - not as good as yours though! (on the other hand, I did use the walnut supplied for the planking of Pegasus which I'm currently working on, and was pleased with its colour and texture). I guess that walnut varies a lot from batch to batch. Best wishes, Tom. Quote Current Builds: HMS Pegasus; Russian Brig Mercury (Victory Models) Completed Builds: HM Bomb Vessel Granado (Caldercraft) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted December 28, 2019 Author Share #59 Posted December 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, tom kinglake said: Hi Vane Your tanganyika planking looks excellent. Congratulations on your very neat oar ports, too! When I made my Granado, I didn't realise that there were no cutouts for them in the gunport patterns until too late! I didn't use the walnut for the upper hull of Granado, either - instead I used lime, coloured with a light oak stain, then a clear varnish over that. I wasn't completely satisfied with the result, although it seems an improvement on the walnut - not as good as yours though! (on the other hand, I did use the walnut supplied for the planking of Pegasus which I'm currently working on, and was pleased with its colour and texture). I guess that walnut varies a lot from batch to batch. Best wishes, Tom. Thanks, let me know when u have put up some photos. It will be really interesting to see! Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom kinglake Posted December 28, 2019 Share #60 Posted December 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Vane said: Thanks, let me know when u have put up some photos. It will be really interesting to see! I've just put a few photos of Granado into the gallery. I've made a couple of small alterations since I took these in July 2018 (including tidying up the stray barrels!) and I'll post some updates when I can get some decent shots. Cheers, Tom. Ryland Craze 1 Quote Current Builds: HMS Pegasus; Russian Brig Mercury (Victory Models) Completed Builds: HM Bomb Vessel Granado (Caldercraft) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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