Retired guy Posted December 29, 2019 Share #61 Posted December 29, 2019 I did find this in a book I have but funny enough not in the books I thought I would find it, hope it helps Regards Richard thibaultron and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Current build: Bluenose by Retired guy - Model Shipways - scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share #62 Posted December 29, 2019 Thanks Richard! I had an aha moment a few days ago (and it’s really a ridiculous notion that I should have been doing for awhile) when I saw a picture detailing how to tie a lanyard on the forum. Basically, I should be using some reference books to help me. I had bought “Ship Modeling from Stem to Stern” by Milton Roth and it has some decent descriptions for rigging and a whole host of other details but I had gotten way to used to simply web searching and I wasn’t finding the right answers. Now I’m using this book for help as much as possible and I’m slowly building out a library for reference. thibaultron and Retired guy 2 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrusn89 Posted December 29, 2019 Share #63 Posted December 29, 2019 I seem to recall somewhere a "rule of thumb" of 3 or 4 times the diameter of the deadeye for the space between them. That looks pretty close to me. thibaultron and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Thanks, Gary Current Builds - HMS Sphinx 1775 Prior Builds: HMS Winchelsea USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted December 29, 2019 Author Share #64 Posted December 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, cdrusn89 said: I seem to recall somewhere a "rule of thumb" of 3 or 4 times the diameter of the deadeye for the space between them. That looks pretty close to me. I appreciate this, it is really helpful. thibaultron 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted December 30, 2019 Author Share #65 Posted December 30, 2019 I've been hard at work stepping the masts and finishing up the rigging. Next up is a closer look at how I created the rope coils. Basically I press the rope into some tape and slowly rotate it. Once the coil is completed I apply so white glue and wait for it to dry. After it dries I can remove it from the tape, flip it over and glue it to the deck. Next time I won't be using such a large piece of wood under the tape so that I can get the coil closer to the cleat. I added the anchor (bought already black from Cornwall Model Boats): Finally I rigged the deadeyes All I have remaining is to cut 4 brass rods, blacken them and glue them above the deadeyes on the shrouds (which if I do it correctly should remove the twist in the lanyards). I'm not certain exactly what I want to do for the display base if anyone has any suggestions. I had originally planned on two dowels (one slotted for the keel) but I'm concerned about the front of the ship not having anything to really connect to on the front dowel and slipping around. pwog, Zocane, EricWilliamMarshall and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired guy Posted December 30, 2019 Share #66 Posted December 30, 2019 Nicely done Sharpie Schooner 👍 Regards Richard VTHokiEE and thibaultron 2 Quote Current build: Bluenose by Retired guy - Model Shipways - scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duanelaker Posted December 31, 2019 Share #67 Posted December 31, 2019 Very nice details! Love your rope ideas! There is a great YouTube video on using silkspan as sails (just search silkspan sails in YouTube). I have bought silk span but have not yet used it. I also purchase “Kona” cotton for sails as it was mentioned in a post on this site...it’s basically backer for quilts and can be bought at fabric Stores. It’s what my sails on my Chesapeake bay crabbing skiff were made of. VTHokiEE and thibaultron 2 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share #68 Posted December 31, 2019 Thanks! I wish I could take full credit for the rope details but I gathered them from here and there with small tweaks. I ended up using cheap cotton from Walmart for the sails. I’ll look up the silkspan tutorial and see if it helps me. I was having issues with consistency in the overlap. Oddly enough, I enjoyed using the sewing machine so I may simply put some more energy there to get better at it. Duanelaker and thibaultron 2 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share #69 Posted January 1, 2020 I still have to make a display base (and maybe a case) but I think I'm going to call this build finished. Not everything is quite as tight and perfect as I'd like it to be, but overall I'm very happy with how this turned out for my second build. Please pardon the ugly fence background, after I get the base finished I'll try to do some proper shots and post a gallery. Thank you all for the likes and comments; they were very encouraging and I simply appreciate this community! BobG, ccoyle, GrandpaPhil and 13 others 16 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted January 1, 2020 Share #70 Posted January 1, 2020 Very handsome -- congratulations! Old Collingwood, VTHokiEE and thibaultron 3 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share #71 Posted January 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, ccoyle said: Very handsome -- congratulations! Thank you! thibaultron, cdrusn89 and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdrusn89 Posted January 1, 2020 Share #72 Posted January 1, 2020 Very nicely done. thibaultron, Old Collingwood and VTHokiEE 3 Quote Thanks, Gary Current Builds - HMS Sphinx 1775 Prior Builds: HMS Winchelsea USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share #73 Posted January 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, cdrusn89 said: Very nicely done. Thanks! thibaultron and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted January 1, 2020 Share #74 Posted January 1, 2020 Congratulations! Well done! VTHokiEE and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share #75 Posted January 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, GrandpaPhil said: Congratulations! Well done! I appreciate it! Now to “step up” to a warship 🙂 thibaultron, GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thibaultron Posted January 2, 2020 Share #76 Posted January 2, 2020 Great job, looks great! Old Collingwood and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Ron Thibault Shipjack Carrie Price from Pyro kit, with upgraded detailing and history. Going From A 2D Drawing To A 3D Printed Part Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duanelaker Posted January 2, 2020 Share #77 Posted January 2, 2020 She’s is beautiful! What’s next?? Old Collingwood, thibaultron and VTHokiEE 3 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired guy Posted January 2, 2020 Share #78 Posted January 2, 2020 Congratulation does look good under blue skies Regards Richard Old Collingwood, VTHokiEE and thibaultron 3 Quote Current build: Bluenose by Retired guy - Model Shipways - scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted January 2, 2020 Author Share #79 Posted January 2, 2020 10 hours ago, thibaultron said: Great job, looks great! Thank you! 9 hours ago, Duanelaker said: She’s is beautiful! What’s next?? I received Vanguard's Alert for Christmas, but I think I may do the planking project first. 9 hours ago, Retired guy said: Congratulation does look good under blue skies Regards Richard Thanks! I like the outdoor shots as well, something a little different (but now I may not be able to continue putting off re-staining the fence). Old Collingwood, Duanelaker and EricWilliamMarshall 3 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWilliamMarshall Posted January 3, 2020 Share #80 Posted January 3, 2020 Congrats!! An inspiring build for those of us new to the fold! A great start to the New Year! Old Collingwood and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Current adventures: USS Perry of 1843, model kit by Bluejacket - Scale 1:96 Lost at Sea: Dapper Tom - model kit by Model Shipways Previous adventures: an English Pinnace, model kit by Model Shipways, Opium Smuggler Schooner Yacht 1805, model kit by Authentic Holland Models Chesapeake Bay Flattie, model kit by Midwest, USS Constitution, model kit by Revell Albatros 1912, card model kit by HMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwog Posted November 6, 2020 Share #81 Posted November 6, 2020 Hi Tim, I just finished going through your build here. Outstanding! Really? This was only your second build? Stunning job! How do you like the Midwest kits? Old Collingwood and VTHokiEE 2 Quote Paul On the Ways: Mighty Mite, Harbor Tugboat by pwog - NautiCurso - 1:64 __________________________________________________________________ Completed Builds: Lobster Boat Red Baron (Bluejacket) Sardine Carrier Pauline (Bluejacket) Swampscott Dory (BlueJacket) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share #82 Posted November 6, 2020 (edited) @pwog Thank you very much, I was too shy to log my first build a Chesapeake Bay Flattie (also by Midwest) but there are a few pictures in the gallery. I really learned a lot on both of these (and still learning tons more currently). I really like Midwest kits as a beginner model. They are pretty inexpensive and the instructions are pretty clear and straight forward - nothing is too complicated. They are also relatively quick builds that have plenty of room for detailing if one choose to. My biggest issue with them is the fittings. The Sharpie had plastic blocks 😬 so I replaced all of them on the Sharpie with rope, blocks, cleats, etc from Syren. It is unfortunate that they are no longer being manufactured so if any catch your eye watch eBay for it. Edited November 6, 2020 by VTHokiEE EricWilliamMarshall, Duanelaker, pwog and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zocane Posted February 14, 2021 Share #83 Posted February 14, 2021 Very nice, VTHokiEE!!! I'm almost done with my version, but it is not even close to yours. Great work. I'm using your idea about coiled rope! I've ended up using the kit provided blocks to 'teach myself a lesson' in what never to do again. Your deadeyes look great too. I ended up following the kit instructions on this one. Next project -lessons learned! I did decide to plank the deck rather than score it. First time I've done that. I used Ronnberg's Smuggler book for hints on how to do it. Thank you so much for sharing your work! Keep it up and please keep sharing! Will VTHokiEE and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted February 14, 2021 Author Share #84 Posted February 14, 2021 Thank you @Zocane! It is very much appreciated. I hope you end up posting some pictures when you’re finished to the gallery. I would love to take a look at it. 35 minutes ago, Zocane said: did decide to plank the deck rather than score it. That sounds really nice; I bet it looks awesome. 36 minutes ago, Zocane said: the kit provided blocks to 'teach myself a lesson' in what never to do again My first build was a Midwest Chesapeake Flattie and I certainly learned many of those lessons on that build. Hopefully each build has a few less “what not to do in the future” than the build before. Thanks again and I hope to see some of your work eventually! Old Collingwood 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted February 14, 2021 Share #85 Posted February 14, 2021 I totally missed this one Tim, abject apologies, it's a lovely little schooner 🙂 VTHokiEE 1 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted March 1, 2021 Share #86 Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 10:52 PM, Edwardkenway said: I totally missed this one Tim, abject apologies, it's a lovely little schooner 🙂 Same as Edward - sincerley sorry I missed your build log on this - atleast I have caught it now - loverly work indeed mate. OC. VTHokiEE and Edwardkenway 2 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moab Posted March 2, 2021 Share #87 Posted March 2, 2021 A beautiful boat beautifully crafted. Congrats...Moab VTHokiEE 1 Quote Completed Builds: Virginia Armed Sloop...Model Shipways Ranger...Corel Louise Steam Launch...Constructo Hansa Kogge...Dusek Yankee Hero...BlueJacket Spray...BlueJacket 26’ Long Boat...Model Shipways Under Construction: Emma C. Berry...Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiewithacamera Posted January 21, 2023 Share #88 Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) On 10/29/2019 at 11:29 AM, VTHokiEE said: Did you scratch build the benches? My manual says nothing about benches except the seat supports built during the cabin step but nothing on top of them. I assume the iron is scratch as well? I didn't buy anything 3rd party as this is only my first true ship kit, aside from that dumb Dory. So I have no idea how to figure out if the included blocks are the right scale. I failed math 3 years in a row in high school and am trying not to go down that road. I hate the idea of plastic cleats as well. But I had considered just scratch building cleats and trying match the size as close as possible. Edited January 21, 2023 by Wookiewithacamera Excess quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share #89 Posted January 21, 2023 52 minutes ago, Wookiewithacamera said: Did you scratch build the benches? My manual says nothing about benches except the seat supports built during the cabin step but nothing on top of them. I believe the installation of the benches is on the bottom of page 38 in the instructions. I did some rough guesses for deadeyes/cleats/rope/etc and picked them up from Syren. I can find track down sizes a little later today. I think I got the anchor from Cornwall models (along with the chain). I can see if I have details on that as well. Knocklouder 1 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookiewithacamera Posted January 26, 2023 Share #90 Posted January 26, 2023 On 11/25/2019 at 11:54 AM, VTHokiEE said: After dry fitting my masts I felt like something was missing, but Google didn't turn up any searches that named the item in question. "Deck Rings" I believe is what my mind was thinking was needed. I assume above your cleats is a boom rest? I saw those in my Modelling Simplified book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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